RE: Sliding into the dip

2002-08-18 Thread Davies, Daniel
Yes, although they usually do it by means of a "cashback" deal whereby you get money up front when you drive the motor away. -Original Message- From: Eugene Coyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 August 2002 16:36 To: Pen-L Pen-l Subject: [PEN-L:29530] Sliding into the dip Can the au

more free stuff

2002-08-18 Thread Ian Murray
U.S. Ignored Appraisers In Land Deal With Utah BLM Experts Called Swap A $100 Million Giveaway By Michael Grunwald and Juliet Eilperin Washington Post Staff Writers Monday, August 19, 2002; Page A01 The Bush administration recently agreed to a massive land swap with Utah even though the federa

Re: Engels, homophobia and the left

2002-08-18 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, Louis Proyect writes, Indeed, this goal remains unfilled to this day and it is up to socialists and gay liberation fighters to fulfill it. Doyle, This is just a short quote from a longer essay (by LP) on a brief history of attitudes toward homosexual activity on the part of

Word-out: Borrow a trillion to privatize SS

2002-08-18 Thread pms
I gotta get cable. Social Security borrowing urged By Joyce Howard Price THE WASHINGTON TIMES White House economic adviser Lawrence B. Lindsey says it would be worth borrowing $1 trillion to implement President Bush's plan to allow workers to devote part of their Social Security taxes to s

Iraq attack plans

2002-08-18 Thread ken hanly
Here is another article detailing some of the preparations in the Gulf area for an attack. It seems that the forces will be ready to attack soon, but of course that does not mean that it will necessarily happen soon. Perhaps Bush will wait for better political weather conditions. Cheers, Ken Han

development theories and mesoeconomics

2002-08-18 Thread Ian Murray
The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com NEWS ANALYSIS Grass roots economists' influence grows Daniel Altman The New York Times Monday, August 19, 2002 NEW YORK Though rich countries may be able to rescue Uruguay and Brazil from crises simply by lending them billions of dollars, the prob

Re: Re: Re: Re: Stiglitz

2002-08-18 Thread Michael Perelman
Yes. Both were at the seat of power -- or at least near it; and both recanted. Neither would feel wholly confortable with the views found on this list. Of course, I feel much more kinship to Stiglitz -- quite a bit in fact -- than to McNamara. The point is we can take what we want from people

Re: Re: Re: Stiglitz

2002-08-18 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: >Some of us are quick to attack Stiglitz. Certainly he is an imperfect >vessel on leftist politics. Henry Liu's initial post was useful in >reminding us about Stiglitz's limitations, but the fact that he has come >out from such a prominent position and gone so far call f

Re: RE: Re: production & realization

2002-08-18 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
Jim wrote: >an accounting quibble: it's not a balance of payments deficit, but a >current-account >deficit balanced by a capital-account surplus, where the >latter implies that the US >national net worth is falling. Thanks for replying. One more question, if you don't mind. How the US can have a

UN cuts rations in Afghanistan

2002-08-18 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
HindustanTimes.com Sunday, August 18, 2002 UN cuts rations as Afghan food aid runs out Simon Denyer (Reuters) Mazar-i-Sharif, August 18 The UN's World Food Programme is being forced to cut rations for millions of hungry and vulnerable Afghans because international donors have failed to stump u

Re: Pakistan reject UN inspection of nuclear plants

2002-08-18 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
ken hanly wrote: > So how come Pakistan isnt part of the axis of evil and attacked for > developing weapons of mass destruction and ignoring the UN? Pakistan acquired nuclear weapons capability in 80s. The decision to develop nuclear weapon capability was probably made immediately after the loss

Re: Re: Stiglitz

2002-08-18 Thread Michael Perelman
Ian's reference to the Bhagwati article was interesting. I agree with Bhagwati about TRIPS and appreciate his contribution, yet Bhagwati is far less progressive than Stiglitz. Some of us are quick to attack Stiglitz. Certainly he is an imperfect vessel on leftist politics. Henry Liu's initial

The problem of war veterans in an historical context

2002-08-18 Thread Michael Pollak
[This is an email from a friend of mine who has spent a lot of time thinking about the relation of military and nation in Europe from the French revolution onwards, and spent a lot of time travelling around Africa and hanging out at Oxford during the early days of de-colonialization. I thought s

how to go to war

2002-08-18 Thread Michael Perelman
The sort of scenario I would expect would be something like a plane being shot down in the no-fly zone. A rescue operation ensues ... and then escalates. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RE: Re: war/election bet

2002-08-18 Thread Michael Perelman
To Jim Devine, Drinking a case of carrot juice before it spoils would probably turn me orange. I can see what the point of a war in Iraq would be after October. The actual battle couldn't give as much of a Keynesian boost to the economy as beefing up Star Wars. Surely the statements by Scowcro

Re: Stiglitz

2002-08-18 Thread Ian Murray
I found JS's comments on the TRIPS provisions of the WTO rather intriguing. It also seems more than one "mainstreamer" is starting to see big problems with the BWI's: On page 2 [ 127] of the following, Jagdish Bhagwati calls for the removal of TRIPS from the WTO. http://www.asil.org/ajil/wto8.pd

Re: Rumours of war on Iraq

2002-08-18 Thread Michael Pollak
> Bush I sloshed about looking for a justification [e.g., Baker, It's > about oil] and none took hold until he warned that Saddam had nukes > ready to fly. No, that was the excuse. The strategic justification for Gulf War I was to destroy Saddam's army, which was too big for our liking, because

Foucault = ?

2002-08-18 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I think you should distinguish between Foucault and his writings on the one hand, and the reception/interpretation of his writings in various intellectual milieus on the other. I would think Foucault was to the left of Althusser, politically, all along. Blaming post-modernist subjectivism on F

RE: Re: war/election bet

2002-08-18 Thread Max B. Sawicky
I think it's too late for the U.S. to launch a war before November. The politics are not right for the Admin yet. They haven't sold it, either domestically or elsewhere. The Dems would let them do it, but only I think to give them opportunities to ruin themselves politically. So I'd cover the

Re: Foucault = ?

2002-08-18 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I think you should distinguish between Foucault and his writings on the one hand, and the reception/interpretation of his writings in various intellectual milieus on the other. I would think Foucault was to the left of Althusser, politically, all along. Blaming post-modernist subjectivism on F

Re: Rumours of war on Iraq

2002-08-18 Thread ken hanly
There is a great deal going on in the Gulf in preparation including a huge expansion to runways, storage facilities in various UAE states and transfers out of Saudi Arabia. Here is just one example of the navy stuff. Of course with appropriate denial that it has anything to do with an Iraq war.

Re: war/election bet

2002-08-18 Thread Michael Pollak
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Devine, James wrote: > Michael, I bet you that there will be no war against Iraq before the > November election. If there is, I'll give you a full case of the best > carrot juice. Yecch! How about 50 bucks? > Of course, we need to define war. I'll let you do it and then d

US opposition to Iraq's chemical weapons just so much gas

2002-08-18 Thread ken hanly
>From NY Times International...cheers, Ken Hanly Officers Say U.S. Aided Iraq in War Despite Use of Gas By PATRICK E. TYLER ASHINGTON, Aug. 17 - A covert American program during the Reagan administration provided Iraq with critical battle planning assistance at a time when American intelligenc

Re: Rumours of war on Iraq

2002-08-18 Thread topp8564
Unfortunately, there is a "conceivable solution to the Palestine question" - expulsion - which, if Martin van Creveld and others are to be believed, is a very serious incentive for Israel's support for a war on Iraq. Such support has indeed been very forthcoming. As for big-picture strategic

war/election bet

2002-08-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: war/election bet RE: [PEN-L:29564] Re: Re: Re: production & realization  Michael, I bet you that there will be no war against Iraq before the November election. If there is, I'll give you a full case of the best carrot juice. (I'd give you single-malt scotch, in honor of Mark Jones, b

RE: Re: production & realization

2002-08-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: Re: production & realization I wrote: >In fact, under the right conditions, such as those of the 1950s and 1960s n the U.S., it can pull up wages (relative to labor productivity) and thus consumer demand, preventing underconsumption problems (without it being necessary for consumer

RE: production & realization

2002-08-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: production & realization  the necessaily temporary stimulus of state & local spending also helped end the 2001 recession. will the Second Saddam War "play in Peoria?" I dunno. With Republican Big Wigs like Kissinger, et al saying that they don't like it, I have some doubts. (BTW,

RE: Re: production & realization

2002-08-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29559] Re: production & realization I wrote: > So the "solution" to the undertow created new problems, > new imbalances, with which we are still living. I think > they'll keep the U.S. down for quite awhile, even without > a double dip, unless of course there's a major war.

Re: Rumours of war on Iraq

2002-08-18 Thread Michael Perelman
Bush I sloshed about looking for a justification [e.g., Baker, It's about oil] and none took hold until he warned that Saddam had nukes ready to fly. Rob need not worry about the attack hurting Bush in 2004. There are plenty of dogs to wag. On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 01:40:24AM +1000, Rob Schaap w

Free David Soskice

2002-08-18 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.oup.co.uk/pdf/0-19-924774-9.pdf

Rumours of war on Iraq

2002-08-18 Thread Rob Schaap
I'm with Michael Pollack on this one. No realistic discernable strategic goal. No reliable staging posts. No enduring alliance. No conceivable solution to the Palestine question. No decisive good will in the region. No hard evidence to defend pretext #1 (Baghdad links to al Qaeda), pretext #

"Maquila work is marked for extinction"

2002-08-18 Thread Louis Proyect
The bourgeoisie has, through its exploitation of the world market, given a cosmopolitan character to production and consumption in every country. To the great chagrin of reactionaries, it has drawn from under the feet of industry the national ground on which it stood. All old-established natio

What is Indonesia?

2002-08-18 Thread Louis Proyect
The Economist, April 17, 1993 The long march by Gideon Rachman INDONESIA'S long march from poverty is nearly over. By 2000 the country, once a pauper among nations, should have joined the emergent middle class. The rise of a richer Indonesia will be more than just another Asian economic succ

Cold feet over Iraq

2002-08-18 Thread Louis Proyect
(This lead story in today's NY Times undercuts the Bush lie that the war is about eliminating weapons of mass destruction. Along with the defection of veteran high-profile Republicans this week including Henry Kissinger makes an invasion of Iraq more difficult--but not impossible.) Officers Sa

Re: Re: Re: production & realization

2002-08-18 Thread Michael Pollak
On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Michael Perelman wrote: > I suspect that the war is directed at the Nov. elections. Michael, if it will cheer you up, I'll bet you there's no war before the elections. In fact I'll give you 2 to 1. And if you'll give me 2 to 1, I'll bet you they will be no war in next 365