bankruptcies

2003-11-15 Thread Eubulides
Personal Bankruptcies Jump 7.8 Percent By MARCY GORDON The Associated Press Friday, November 14, 2003; 10:39 PM WASHINGTON - Bankruptcies have nearly doubled in the past decade, including more than 1.6 million people who filed for personal bankruptcy this fiscal year alone in a hangover of debt

Re: USA appears to have lost the Iraq war

2003-11-15 Thread soula avramidis
I was also one of those who said that the war was not over in a televised victory, it had just begun. I also said something like a chinese slogan from my past:people united win. And I have heard it from human rights activist in the area that saddam's regime record on human rights was deplorable,

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I sense that this Cockburn guy is important in some way to some of you Americans for some reason... And I would like to be polite and give him a wide berth... since he matters a lot to your culture. But this is lousy style: * Clichs like rubbing shoulders... that's as bad made a cool million.

Re: USA appears to have lost the Iraq war

2003-11-15 Thread soula avramidis
"The best they can hope for is that some sort of capitalist economicstructures will continue to be able to colonize Iraq aided by the work ofcondescending saviours. The worst could be far worse than Somalia." Iraq WITH SECOND OR FIRST OIL Reserves will not beallowed to go the way of Somalia,

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Julio Huato
Kenneth Campbell wrote: But this is lousy style: I wouldn't mind his style. What is unhelpful is his tactical misfiring. At this juncture, you have an administration whose policies, domestic and foreign, are exactly what the left is supposed to be against. Yet, Cockburn is busy criticizing

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Louis Proyect
Julio: At this juncture, you have an administration whose policies, domestic and foreign, are exactly what the left is supposed to be against. Yet, Cockburn is busy criticizing Bill Clinton and Paul Krugman! Well, who else is supposed to criticize the Democrats? Salon.com? The Nation Magazine?

Paul Baran gets it right

2003-11-15 Thread Brian McKenna
http://www.monthlyreview.org/561baran.htm

embedded news channel

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Perelman
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42547-2003Nov14.html The Wash. Post reports that the Pentagon will establish a satellite link, dubbed C-SPAN Baghdad. Who needs those pesky reporters? Next they will need the information implants so that we can have individual receivers in our

Re: Role of Sov. Un. welfare state in West

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Try Negri, Antonio. 1988. Keynes and the Capitalist Theory of the State in 1929. Revolution Retrieved: Selected Writings on Marx, Keynes, Capitalist Crisis and New Social Subjects, 1967-1983 (London: Red Notes): pp. 9-42. Negri stresses that the General Theory was written in the shadow of the

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] My dream would be for us here to work on articulating a different version of the economy. Imagine that one of us were to step into a classroom, factory, or call center and say that we wanted to speak in favor of socialism.

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Yes, that is easy. The problem is to go from there to a broader vision of society. Instead, what we have is fragmentation. For example, the students may not be interested in working conditions of health care and the workers maybe not concerned about issues in higher education. The result is

Re: Role of Sov. Un. welfare state in West

2003-11-15 Thread Devine, James
there's a book co-authored by Phil Klinkner that argues that in general, when the US has been involved in a big war or cold war, the deal that Blacks received improved, including improvements in the Welfare State. Ian Gough's book on the Welfare State may also be of use. Jim

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Devine, James
Some sort of overarching vision is, at some point, necessary. but that would be essentialism, surrender to a Master Narrative, while denigrating the Otherness of the Other! Jim

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Perelman
oh, my god. I am in pomo hell! On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 09:14:33AM -0800, Devine, James wrote: Some sort of overarching vision is, at some point, necessary. but that would be essentialism, surrender to a Master Narrative, while denigrating the Otherness of the Other! Jim -- Michael

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] the Clinton years Yes, that is easy. The problem is to go from there to a broader vision of society. Instead, what we have is

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Julio: At this juncture, you have an administration whose policies, domestic and foreign, are exactly what the left is supposed to be against. Yet, Cockburn is busy criticizing Bill Clinton and Paul Krugman! Well, who else is supposed to criticize the Democrats? Salon.com? The Nation Magazine?

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Louis Proyect
The assumption would be that through left wing Keynesian management the economy could be set on a path of a output growth with price stability and 'acceptable' levels of income inequality. (Prabhat Patnaik argues against the ability of any kind of Keynesianism to guarantee accumulation and

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Carrol Cox
Eubulides wrote: - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] My dream would be for us here to work on articulating a different version of the economy. Imagine that one of us were to step into a classroom, factory, or call center and say that we wanted to speak

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/15/03 9:02:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message -From: "Michael Perelman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] My dream would be for us here to work on articulating a differentversion of the economy. Imagine that one of us were to step into a

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Devine, James
you Otherf*cker! ;-) JD -Original Message- From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 11/15/2003 9:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [PEN-L] the Clinton years oh, my god. I am in

McJob

2003-11-15 Thread Dan Scanlan
2. Topical Words: McJob --- The Associated Press reported last Saturday that Jim Cantalupo, the Chairman and CEO of the fast-food firm McDonald's, had published an open letter to Merriam-Webster about the recently-published 11th

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Carrol Cox
Michael Perelman wrote: Yes, that is easy. The problem is to go from there to a broader vision of society. Instead, what we have is fragmentation. For example, the students may not be interested in working conditions of health care and the workers maybe not concerned about issues in higher

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Ian, but he does not go far enough. You _start_ by trying to imagine the social context in which any of this might happen -- which is _not_ the social context in which we now live. Well I'd start

Re: Role of Sov. Un. welfare state in West

2003-11-15 Thread Joel Blau
There was also a special issue on this topic in the Journal of Sociology and Social Welfare, volume 15, no 2 (1988). In general, both warfare and welfare require centralization of administrative capacity. Welfare may also be used to mobilize popular opinion with the promise of a decent life for

Nader to Ashcroft

2003-11-15 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: Nader to Ashcroft NADER DEMANDS FBI INCLUDE CORPORATE OFFENSES IN CRIME STATS http://www.citizenworks.org/corp/ashcroft-letter.php RALPH NADER HAS called on Attorney General John Ashcroft to include statistics on corporate crime in the FBI's annual Crime in America Report, an annual

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread joanna bujes
Ian writes Welcome to the contradictions of the division of labor and bounded rationality. Seems to me that coaxing fellow learners to 'see' connections that weren't apparent in their quest to improve the quality of their lives is a small first step creating greater public discussion whereby

Re: McJob

2003-11-15 Thread joanna bujes
Good one, thanks. Joanna Dan Scanlan wrote: 2. Topical Words: McJob --- The Associated Press reported last Saturday that Jim Cantalupo, the Chairman and CEO of the fast-food firm McDonald's, had published an open letter to

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Doug Henwood
Rakesh Bhandari wrote: In short, Cockburn's underlying criticism seems hardly structural; it seems to retain state fetishism. It's not at all structural because he wants to annoy liberal Nation readers. It doesn't seem like the most urgent political task of the moment to me, but I'm getting soft

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread bgramlich
Joanna writes: That is why, perhaps, art is the first weapon. Can you suggest any good socialist art? I've heard of a socialist realism movement in literature, but haven't found any specific authors. There are very few films that I know of that have a pro-worker, anti-capitalist bent, and

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2003-11-15 Thread Julio Huato
Louis Proyect wrote: Well, who else is supposed to criticize the Democrats? Salon.com? The Nation Magazine? Bill Moyers? [clip] I think that the point of Counterpunch (and PEN-L) is to address the necessity of transforming the system. We are facing a downward spiral in bourgeois politics that

Re:

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Alas, the galaxy server is now defunct! Sign of the times. [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 01:48:39PM -0500, Julio Huato wrote: As for PEN-L, I don't know, but it seems to me like a group of professional conspirators bent on taking over the galaxy -- just look at the e-mail

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Title: Re: [PEN-L] the Clinton years Rakesh Bhandari wrote: In short, Cockburn's underlying criticism seems hardly structural; it seems to retain state fetishism. It's not at all structural because he wants to annoy liberal Nation readers. It doesn't seem like the most urgent political task of

The Rise of the Neo-Centrics

2003-11-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
From the Solidarity listserv, with permission of the author: * Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:48:47 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Rise of the Neo-Centrics 2003 has seen the rise of a new current in U.S. politics, best described as NeoCentrics, or simply NeoCens, for ease of

The Clinton team

2003-11-15 Thread Louis Proyect
Julio: To draw the proper economic and political lessons from the Clinton years is an important strategic task. But it's not the burning issue of the day. You can seriously do it now without shooting yourself in the foot. How about picking on Greenspan? He's the one who gave a free pass to the

Re: The Rise of the Neo-Centrics

2003-11-15 Thread Louis Proyect
Walt Sheasby wrote: The Neo-Cens have been joined by any number of former revolutionaries like Carl Davidson and Angela Davis. Just a clarification. In the case of Davidson, former does not mean last year. He has not really been identified with revolutionary politics since Joe Cocker was a big

George Soros and the Rise of the Neo-Centrics

2003-11-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
* GEORGE SOROS AND THE RISE OF THE NEO-CENTRICS By Walt Contreras Sheasby, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003 has seen the rise of a new current in US politics, best described as Neo-Centrics, or simply Neo-Cens, for ease of comparison with a better known defection of Socialists to the Conservative

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 9:01 AM -0500 11/15/03, Julio Huato wrote: I wouldn't mind his style. What is unhelpful is his tactical misfiring. At this juncture, you have an administration whose policies, domestic and foreign, are exactly what the left is supposed to be against. Yet, Cockburn is busy criticizing Bill

Re: The Rise of the Neo-Centrics

2003-11-15 Thread Devine, James
How can MoveOn.org _absorb_ $5 million? this seems a recipe for organizational gigantism and even old-fashioned corruption! (the latter refers to politicians who take bribes (broadly defined), feathering their own nests rather than representing the movements they claim to speak for. This

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Devine, James
I'm no aesthete, but a lot of Russian art after the 1917 revolution was very good. (I don't know much about art, but I know the price.) Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 11/15/2003 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: The Rise of the Neo-Centrics

2003-11-15 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The Rise of the Neo-Centrics How can MoveOn.org _absorb_ $5 million? this seems a recipe for organizational gigantism and even old-fashioned

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/15/03 2:34:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm no aesthete, but a lot of Russian art after the 1917 revolution was very good.("I don't know much about art, but I know the price.")Jim Did the art - culture or development, cost as much as slavery and

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/14/03 10:14 PM November 14 / 23, 2003 CounterPunch Diary Clintontime: Was It Really a Golden Age? By ALEXANDER COCKBURN silly question, of course not...cockburn's best stuff was years ago in that belly of the beast the _wall street journal_, article such as this would have

Re: The Clinton team

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Perelman
From the fabled Kennedy years: Senator Albert Gore, Sr., a Tennessee Democrat (and a presumptive candidate for the Treasury position himself) told Kennedy that selecting Dillon as Secretary of the Treasury signaled a continuation of the stagnant policies of the Republicans, Kennedy protested.

Re: The Clinton team

2003-11-15 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Any relation to Matt Dillon ? (Thinking more of his earlier movie debuts, like beautiful girls and so on) :+O :) And if I was president The minute congress call my name I'd say who do, Who do you think you're fooling? I've got the presidential seal I'm up on the presidential podium My mama still

Re: George Soros and the Rise of the Neo-Centrics

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Walt was on pen-l. I have not seen any sign of him lately. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Julio Huato
Yoshie wrote: Barring another terrorist attack to the magnitude of 9.11.01, Bush is finished [clip] The Democratic victory in the 2004 presidential election is virtually certain. What are socialists to do, now that George W. Bush is losing the war and will be losing the election in 2004? Remind

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread joanna bujes
Not to mention the films -- a significant slice of the great art of the twentieth century. In the visual arts, they were the bomb!. And then there were the writers: Akhmatova, Yesenin, Trifonov, Bulgakov, and lots, lots more that I just don't know about ... ...and the dancers -- Galina Ulanova,

Re: George Soros and the Rise of the Neo-Centrics

2003-11-15 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
At his home in Westchester, N.Y., Soros early on raised $115,000 from his friends for candidate Dean. Hell Yoshie, if you and I could do that, we'd be home and hosed The singer Loudon Wainwright III (who was born in Westchester and has a song about it on his album Fame and Wealth) objects

call to arms

2003-11-15 Thread Perelman, Michael
[NOTE: Vijay Prashad's e-mail address is below. Reply to HIM if you want to get involved in this.] Confronting the Evangelical Imperialists Mr. Kurtz: the Horror, the Horror By VIJAY PRASHAD [EMAIL PROTECTED] In mid-October, my email in-box began to receive forwards from Michael Bednar, a

Re: the Clinton years

2003-11-15 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/15/03 9:24 AM I think that the point of Counterpunch (and PEN-L) is to address the necessity of transforming the system. We are facing a downward spiral in bourgeois politics that has been going on for decades. Richard Nixon's domestic policies were far more liberal than

New anti-war slogan

2003-11-15 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
A tax-dollar for Bush is a hand-out for war

Re: New anti-war slogan

2003-11-15 Thread joanna bujes
Pretty good, I'll pass it on. Joanna Jurriaan Bendien wrote: A tax-dollar for Bush is a hand-out for war

A note on Rosa Luxemburg and the theory of equilibrium

2003-11-15 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
When I woke up this morning, I was rereading in the first chapter of Rosa Luxemburg's book The Accumulation of Capital (introd. Joan Robinson), called The object of our investigation. I could not recall the precise text, and therefore thought I would refresh my memory. What is exciting about this

Job creation in Lakota country

2003-11-15 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, November 15, 2003 Indians Now Disdain a Farm Once Hailed for Giving Tribe Jobs By MELODY PETERSEN ROSEBUD INDIAN RESERVATION, S. D., Nov. 8 — Seven miles west of the tiny town of White River, on a snow-covered rise surrounded by bluffs and valleys, 24 metal-roofed barns create an

Re: the Clinton years - or how Bill had something in common with Vladimir

2003-11-15 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I think Alexander Cockburn does a great job debunking myths about the Clinton area, and I would not dare to dispute his points. My small criticism about him concerns a different aspect, namely the purpose of argumentation. Debunking myths is indispensable if myth pretends to be fact or truth, on

Correction - Rosa Luxemburg piece

2003-11-15 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I wrote: If the monetary system were to break down radically, as has happened at various intervals in history, then simple reproduction can still occur through barter and countertrade, all that really happens, is that new terms of exchange are established, and some people are relieved of their

Reply to Charles Januzzi on the war

2003-11-15 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
They will rotate marines with army units, but this happens all the time in the ME. Most of what you say about the gyrines, however, is not true at all, and their equipment, still meant for taking shorelines, is a poor match for most of the Iraqi terrain. Marines with Army equipment are

My question about taxation history in the USA

2003-11-15 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I have a question about tax history in the USA, which relates to some previous comments I made (a bit rudely) about the fact that in modern capitalism the gross wage effectively includes a legal obligation to subsidise state bureaucracies and private corporations. The point is this: when I

British poll result: Stupid Bush a threat to world peace

2003-11-15 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
More than one in three Britons think George Bush is stupid and a majority branded the US president a threat to world peace, opinion poll results showed. The results were published on Sunday. (...) Bush is due to arrive in London on Tuesday, and start his three-day state visit the next day. It will

Don't they know it's Christmas ?

2003-11-15 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Saturday 15 November 2003, 15:20 Makka Time, 12:20 GMT Money can't buy me love - but it can get you several valuable items of entertainment industry memorabilia, including John Lennon's handwritten lyrics for Nowhere Man, to be auctioned next week. Christie's spokeswoman Margaret Barrett said on