Re: dems, etc

Michael P. writes:>a week or so ago, Jim D. made the point with which I agree that some of the Democrats differ from the Republicans in that they take a larger time horizon. Also, they can represent different factions. Historically, the Democrats favored Savings and Loans; the Republicans, banks

Re: Simple Question please.

Julio: >> Hari Kumar wrote: >> >> >> gini I understand as a coefficient allowing >> some guess at level of equality. What is a >> Hefindahl please? >> Thanks, >> Hari > > The Herfindahl is the sum of the squared market > shares. A kind of garbage, that is. I like the sum of the cubed market share

Re: dems, etc

I have no argument with that . The point I was after is not whether Kerry is a progressive, but that I don't think that we're going to have a draft with the support of a Dem administration any more than with the support of a Repug - and as I see it, subject to correction by anyone here, the tactica

Re: dems, etc

- Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a week or so ago, Jim D. made the point with which I agree that some of the Democrats differ from the Republicans in that they take a larger time horizon. Also, they can represent different factions. Historically, the Demo

Re: dems, etc

a week or so ago, Jim D. made the point with which I agree that some of the Democrats differ from the Republicans in that they take a larger time horizon. Also, they can represent different factions. Historically, the Democrats favored Savings and Loans; the Republicans, banks. But what do we ha

Re: dems, etc

But my question is based on the assumption that Kerry plainly represents the same class interests as Bush, and Nixon, and that with the atrophy of the Dems' 'prole' support, as the DLC Dems as exemplified by Kerry and Lieberman as well as Gephardt, move ever rightward (not so to the same extent in

Re: dems, etc

Let's cool down. On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 08:59:12PM -0600, Carrol Cox wrote: > Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > > > > [clip] [quoting Doug] > > Our revolutionary > > >maximalists don't like to hear that - for them, it's either all or > > >nothing. > > Doug, you know damn well that all Yoshie and I have

Re: dems, etc

--- Yoshie Furuhashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Right on, Ralph. If the chickenhawks want an > empire, let them be > >ready to send their own kids to battle for it. > Lest we forget, it > >was Nixon who got rid of the draft in favour of the > "all" (poor > >prole) volunteer military. > > You se

Re: dems, etc

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > > [clip] [quoting Doug] > Our revolutionary > >maximalists don't like to hear that - for them, it's either all or > >nothing. Doug, you know damn well that all Yoshie and I have talked about on these lists for a couple years concerns the best way of winning REFORMS, NOW,

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

David B. Shemano wrote: You have to expand your idea of what a libertarian is. Irving Kristol said a liberal is one who says it's all right for an 18 year old girl to perform in a pornographic money as long as she gets paid the minimum wage. A libertarian would delete the part about the minimum

Re: dems, etc

Right on, Ralph. If the chickenhawks want an empire, let them be ready to send their own kids to battle for it. Lest we forget, it was Nixon who got rid of the draft in favour of the "all" (poor prole) volunteer military. You see, that's why I think it will take a Democratic president to reinstat

Re: Simple Question please.

Hari Kumar wrote: gini I understand as a coefficient allowing some guess at level of equality. What is a Hefindahl please? Thanks, Hari The Herfindahl is the sum of the squared market shares. H = 1 means "monopoly." H = 1/n (for n very large) means a "perfectly competitive" market. Julio __

Re: dems, etc

--- Yoshie Furuhashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Good point. Here's another question my little > sister asked me the > >other day: "If the popular vote doesn't mean > anything, why do we > >vote?" > > > >Joanna > > The popular vote doesn't mean much, but voter > registration work does. > While yo

Re: dems, etc

Right on, Ralph. If the chickenhawks want an empire, let them be ready to send their own kids to battle for it. Lest we forget, it was Nixon who got rid of the draft in favour of the "all" (poor prole) volunteer military. Regards, Mike B) --- Ralph Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What of t

How to be an economist

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/02/19/nchina19.xml 'I blagged my way through, reading a torn-up textbook and ad libbing' By Stewart Payne and Becky Barrow (Filed: 19/02/2004) An Oxford engineering student was surprised but undaunted when he was approached to deliver a se

Re: dems, etc

What of the contradiction here: if the right really wants to get behind a draft, why is it that the sponsors in the House are Conyers and Rangel, who would be in favor because 1) selective service this time would, in the bill drafted, not allow loopholes for the privileged, and 2) the absence of a

Arnold on the take

http://ArnoldWatch.org Weblog February 20, 2004 11:30 am Arnold's $100,000 per day habit & 1% Rebate by Jamie Court As the 100th day of the Arnold Administration approaches next Tuesday, campaign finance reports show the Governor who said he didn't need anyone else's money will have raised more th

Re: fast food as manufacturing

For what is worth, I partially agree. Here are 2 paragraphs from my "Further Pathology" book. Of course, the category of services, as such, has no fixed meaning. In fact, the service industry is not really an industry at all. Instead, it is a catchall category that includes all businesses that

Re: dems, etc

Good point. Here's another question my little sister asked me the other day: "If the popular vote doesn't mean anything, why do we vote?" Joanna The popular vote doesn't mean much, but voter registration work does. While you are registering people to vote, you can hand out information about local G

Re: US infant mortality increasing ? from 12 Feb

Hari, I think you should add another factor to your list: women are not only giving birth later, but having children in a fairly stressed state (because of working full time until the last minute)...and having to return to work sometimes days after delivery. Surely that doesn't help. Joanna Hari K

Re: dems, etc

Good point. Here's another question my little sister asked me the other day: "If the popular vote doesn't mean anything, why do we vote?" Joanna Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: joanna bujes wrote: I gag at the thought of voting for Kerry, but I will because I think Bush and his gang are not merely "reac

Re: US infant mortality increasing ? from 12 Feb

Says Juriaan: "CDC suggests the 2002 rise in American infant mortality may be a one-time blip, and the US infant mortality rate for 2003 is expected to drop. Previous CDC research suggested the recent rise in infant mortality may reflect the long trend among American women toward delaying motherhoo

Re: dems, etc

Lou wrote: I don't see a huge diff between dems and repubs. BUT Kerry won't privatize social security and won't make the judicial appointments that the Bush gang will make. It's not much, but it's something. The dems also set up different expectations for fairness and legality than do the repub/ne

Re: dems, etc

joanna bujes wrote: I gag at the thought of voting for Kerry, but I will because I think Bush and his gang are not merely "reacting" to the passing of the post-war boom: I think they are looters and goons who will continue to wreak destruction if re-elected. I don't see a huge diff between dems an

Simple Question please.

Surely it'd be possible to correlate Herfindahls & Ginis, no? Hasn't someone done this? Doug" gini I understand as a coefficient allowing some guess at level of equality. What is a Hefindahl please? Thanks, Hari

AG: education, not outsourcing is the problem

Greenspan Warns Against 'Protectionist Cures' By Martin Crutsinger AP Economics Writer Friday, February 20, 2004; 1:53 PM WASHINGTON -- Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan warned on Friday that "protectionist cures" being advanced to deal with the country's job insecurities would make the sit

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

- Original Message - From: "David B. Shemano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Neil Peart, the drummer for Rush, is famous for being a Randian, and their album "2112" is basically Rand's novel "Anthem." = NP has moved on from the cult of Rand and 2112 today sounds like Fox, CNBC a

Re: dems, etc

Joanna Bujes: I gag at the thought of voting for Kerry, but I will because I think Bush and his gang are not merely "reacting" to the passing of the post-war boom: I think they are looters and goons who will continue to wreak destruction if re-elected. Really? As Dan Scanlan pointed out, more Iraqi

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

That surprises me, I would assume that getting an erection on demand requires some skill -- but maybe not for the 20 to 30 crowd. Joanna Doug Henwood wrote: David B. Shemano wrote: You have to expand your idea of what a libertarian is. Irving Kristol said a liberal is one who says it's all righ

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

a 20-year porn veteran, complaining that a woman could just walk on the set and get paid more than he would. Seems he should credit, rather than blame, women for making him hard up. Dan

Re: dems, etc

--- Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > joanna bujes wrote: > > >I gag at the thought of voting for Kerry, but I > will because I think > >Bush and his gang are not merely "reacting" to the > passing of the > >post-war boom: I think they are looters and goons > who will continue to > >wreak d

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

Doug writes: >Of course, porn is one of the few areas where women are paid more than men - a lot more. I saw a documentary about Ron Jeremy, a 20-year porn veteran, complaining that a woman could just walk on the set and get paid more than he would. < a trend? February 20, 2004/New York TIMES. W

Re: dems, etc

joanna bujes wrote: I gag at the thought of voting for Kerry, but I will because I think Bush and his gang are not merely "reacting" to the passing of the post-war boom: I think they are looters and goons who will continue to wreak destruction if re-elected. I don't see a huge diff between dems an

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

David B. Shemano wrote: You have to expand your idea of what a libertarian is. Irving Kristol said a liberal is one who says it's all right for an 18 year old girl to perform in a pornographic money as long as she gets paid the minimum wage. A libertarian would delete the part about the minimum

Re: dems, etc

Louis Proyect wrote: I was thinking about this stuff this morning. It occurs to me that one of the worst things about the "anybody but Bush" line of thinking, especially from self-described Marxists, is that it amounts to a Great Man theory of history. You have national elections every four years

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

Neil Peart, the drummer for Rush, is famous for being a Randian, and their album "2112" is basically Rand's novel "Anthem." Can't say that I am surprised. That's a little like telling me that Billy Joel has a lawn jockey. You have to expand your idea of what a libertarian is. Irving Kristol said a

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

Louis Proyect writes: >> A desire to make money is not particularly "libertarian". I associate >> libertarianism with Ayn Rand, von Mises and people like that. Big time >> rock-and-roll musicians would as soon get a reputation for boosting "Atlas >> Shrugged" as they would for blaming the Jews on

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

I wrote: > >wouldn't the ingestion of drugs encourage right-wing libertarian > >politics by destroying brain cells, too? Cocaine encourages delusions > >of grandeur, also encouraging such views. Bill Lear writes: > Bloody peasant. who me? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

On Friday, February 20, 2004 at 13:45:39 (-0800) Devine, James writes: >... >wouldn't the ingestion of drugs encourage right-wing libertarian >politics by destroying brain cells, too? Cocaine encourages delusions >of grandeur, also encouraging such views. Bloody peasant. Bill

Import-led development - quantitative significance of Liu's argument

In 2002, the total value of US imports according to the BEA international transactions table was $1.2 trillion and specifically imports from China were $125 billion, implying that Chinese imports were 10.7% of total US imports. However, in BEA's GDP table, total imports were valued at $1.4 trillio

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

> I assume all successful rock-and-rollers are libertarians. > They believe in making a lot of money and spending it on > drugs. I believe that is the official Libertarian Party > platform in 2004. > > David Shemano wouldn't the ingestion of drugs encourage right-wing libertarian politics

fast food as manufacturing

As Ursula Huws points out in her fine new book, "The Making of a Cybertariat" (disclosure:  I did most of the editing for Monthly Review Press.  You can hear her interview with Doug Henwood in his LBO radio archives.  Doug was very impressed with her), it is often hard to categorize workers

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

I assume all successful rock-and-rollers are libertarians. They believe in making a lot of money and spending it on drugs. I believe that is the official Libertarian Party platform in 2004. David Shemano A desire to make money is not particularly "libertarian". I associate libertarianism with Ayn

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

Louis Proyect writes: >> A libertarian? Wow! That leads to an interesting question. How many other >> rightwingers made a living as rock-and-rollers? The only one I can think of >> is Ted Nugent. Maybe you can include Stereolab as well. They were hanging >> around Frank Furedi's cult for a while.

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

Doug writes: > In my rightwing days, I used to read Dylan's "My Back Pages" as a > libertarian anthem Reasons: "ideas as my map" > (e.g., Soviet planning rather than Hayekian spontaneous order); "lies > that life is black and white" (critique of Communist certainty); and > especially the use o

/Right Wing Rock/Bob

Ted Nugent is a right wing rocker. My Back Pages is certainly -- ehatever else it is -- a definite kiss-off to Popular Front fellow-travelling pro-Communism of the Weavers/Pete Seeger sort. See also It's All Right Ma, from Bringing It All back Home, even more definitively: While some on principl

response to bragging

Title: Message   Ordinarily I think that what I have written is pretty plebeian.  But these students (as well as those in Jim Craven's classes at Clark college where I lectured in December) really seemed to like my book.  They said that it was both interesting and accessible and c

more rightwing bands

My friend Joel Schalit (interviewed on the topic of anti-Semitism, and the Counterpunch book on the topic in particular, at ) listed some right-wing rock bands (some dupes from my list): -Skrewdriver (OG British racist band,70s-80s) -Centurion (late 9

Re: dems, etc

Title: Message Well, I am unsure that the system can be reformed from within. But, two initiatives come to mind: 1) Attempting to constrain the hegemonic American system from without through popular initiatives (perhaps coordinated through the World Social Forum) to boycott the products of

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

In my rightwing days, I used to read Dylan's "My Back Pages" as a libertarian anthem (see lyrics below). Reasons: "ideas as my map" (e.g., Soviet planning rather than Hayekian spontaneous order); "lies that life is black and white" (critique of Communist certainty); and especially the use of the wo

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

Mark Farner (of Grand Funk Railroad infame). Metallica - Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon Pat Boone. On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 01:0

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

Metallica - Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon Pat Boone. On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 01:04:56PM -0500, Louis Proyect wrote: > Davis

Re: dems, etc

Dan Scanlan: The best way to do that is to push from the left and don't vote for them. Bush has a long way to go before he kills as many people in Iraq as Clinton did, estimated at more than 1 million (compared to current estimates of tens of thousands in this war segment). I was thinking about th

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/04 1:04 PM >>> Davis Meshano wrote: >Mojo Nixon! The greatest live performer in the history of rock n' roll, >and a libertarian to boot. I could spend all day quoting Mojo Nixon. A libertarian? Wow! That leads to an interesting question. How many other rightwingers ma

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

It's a crime to mention Mojo Nixon without mentioning Skid Roper. Or for that matter, their friend, the late, great, Country Dick Montana (of the Beat Farmers). Jim Devine -Original Message- From: David B. Shemano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 2/20/2004 9:5

dems, etc

Title: dems, etc Do we need to keep huge pressure on the Dems? Hell yes. The best way to do that is to push from the left and don't vote for them. Bush has a long way to go before he kills as many people in Iraq as Clinton did, estimated at more than 1 million (compared to current estimates of

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

Pat Boone. On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 01:04:56PM -0500, Louis Proyect wrote: > Davis Meshano wrote: > >Mojo Nixon! The greatest live performer in the history of rock n' roll, > >and a libertarian to boot. I could spend all day quoting Mojo Nixon. > > A libertarian? Wow! That leads to an interestin

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

Davis Meshano wrote: Mojo Nixon! The greatest live performer in the history of rock n' roll, and a libertarian to boot. I could spend all day quoting Mojo Nixon. A libertarian? Wow! That leads to an interesting question. How many other rightwingers made a living as rock-and-rollers? The only one

US: costs and benefits of Federal Regs.; request for comments

[Federal Register: February 20, 2004 (Volume 69, Number 34)] [Notices] [Page 7987-7988] >From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:fr20fe04-77] === ---

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

Mojo Nixon! The greatest live performer in the history of rock n' roll, and a libertarian to boot. I could spend all day quoting Mojo Nixon. In fact, whenever I question my value as a lawyer, I just quote Mojo: There's a plague on the planet, and they went to law school. A bunch of hornswagele

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

luv it. And don't forget Mojo Nixon's masterpiece, "Don Henley Must Die." He's a tortured artist

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

Michael Hoover wrote: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/18/04 03:37PM >>> Washington Post, Tuesday, February 17, 2004 Killing the Music By Don Henley Simply put, artists must regain control, as much as possible, over their music. The writer is a singer and drummer with the Eagles and a founding member of

Noble Savage

[was RE: [PEN-L] Psychoanalysis Re: "happiness is a transitory state"] more than a week ago, Mike Ballard wrote: >Rousseau's, "'Noble Savage' is an idealized stereotype of indigenous people as found throughout the world. Its features include the exaltation of the character in wilderness settings,

Re: bragging

no-one. But some people do, including (it seems), the CEA. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Original Message-From: MICHAEL YATES [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:17 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [PEN-L

Re: bragging

ï Who on pen-l is making this mistake?   Michael Yates - Original Message - From: Devine, James To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] bragging aha! there's a contradiction between what the NBER said and what the CEA no

Re: bragging

aha! there's a contradiction between what the NBER said and what the CEA now says. In any event, it's a mistake to blame either Bill or Dubya for the recession.   Economic reports at odds over when recession began [from the SF Chron, at http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?fil

Re: bragging

ï Yes it is the NBER, but the CEA apparently ignores this for its own self-serving dating.   Michael Yates - Original Message - From: Devine, James To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] bragging Mike Yates writes: > In t

Re: bragging

sure, the NBER is conservative and very much so. And Robert Hall is a hack (at least since he got out of the haberdashery biz ;-)). But the point remains that it's not the CEA that "dates" biz cycles. And it's a mistake to blame Dubya for the recession. He does deserve the blame for fighting the