By invoking Taft-Hartley against the longshore workers, Bush is effectively
declaring war on the working class here and the Iraqi people
simultaneously.
- Jack Heyman, business agent for ILWU Local 10, cited in Counterpunch
(2002).
I agree with Shane Mage on the Labor Management Relations
Among the liberal pundits who cry Anybody But Bush, it's open
season on Ralph Nader and the Green Party. Some wonder why the
Democratic leaders and intellectuals attack Nader and the Greens,
especially given that more Democrats voted for Bush than Nader in
2000: Bush received the votes of 12
Could someone explain what Ralph Nader's candidacy has to do with the
development of a socialist party in the U.S.? I could swear he was a
petit bourgeois who believed in the beauties of small business and
competition.
This seems to be more a kind of supercilious political racism on your
At 10:46 PM -0500 3/17/04, Julio Huato wrote:
Today in the U.S., continual agitation of the sort described by Marx
can and must be conducted (not only but also) within the DP.
Not cost-effective. It costs a left-wing candidate more to run in
the Democratic presidential caucuses and primaries than
Because of ISU computer problems I could not send this when written
Tuesday afternoon.
joanna bujes wrote:
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
Question: Is there any way to prepare the ground? Can we take notes
from the methods of the fundamentalists and say, infiltrate the
educational system?
This
Another post I couldn't send Tuesday
Devine, James wrote:
I worry about this old chestnut exhaustion of its historical potential. These
days, the historical potential of capitalism seems to be the destruction of nature
on Earth. The phrase also seems to be part of the teleological
(Cf. In 1996, Nader opted to cap his campaign expenditures at
$5,000 and ended up with 581,000 votes. Nader's DPV: $0.01, says
Norman Solomon in News That Still Goes Unreported: 'Dollars Per
Vote' at http://www.fair.org/media-beat/980604.html -- our
Consumer Advocate sure knows how to get his
Thanks for helping to make concrete how CP'ers approach these questions.
There are class differences between Social Democratic Parties on one hand
and the Democratic Party in the USA. Lenin advocated a united front between
the Communists and the Social Democrats on a class basis. The Democratic
Joel Wendland wrote:
The social democratic parties
Lenin advocated unity with also were rooted in slavery and imperialism. I'm
not sure why you'd choose to try to make a distinction on this point between
them and our Democrats.
The social democratic parties you are referring to were part of the
Thanks Chris. You are absolutely right. All too much of this thread and those that
connected to it seemed to contain repetitive, airy theorizing.
The most common complaint by people leaving the list is excessive activity. I have
been unable to monitor the list for the last few days, so I bear
ertugrul ahmet tonak wrote:
as usual, this commentary of Mage makes so much sense to me.
I guess it's especially appealing if you like clever sobriquets like
Ubu, Bushits, and Dumbocrats.
It's very nice that Ralph would like to repeal Taft-Hartley. Leaving
aside his history of hostility to unions
(By professional revolutionaries Lenin did NOT mean fulltime
revolutionaries. He meant ordinary people who were working for a living
but in what time they had for politics they trained themselves as well
as possible.)
I think Carrol is basically correct, but:
(1) She does not distinguish
The Bush administration is split on Iran policy, according to the Financial
Times - specifically over whether a deal favourable to US interests can be
struck with the entrenched clerical leadership. The differences echo those
between the State and Defence departments leading up to the invasion of
Doug,
How do you know I found Mage's commentary especially appealing because
I liked his clever sobriquets like Ubu, Bushits, and Dumbocrats
rather than, like Michael for example, the fact that Mage's reference to
Taft-Hartley was an exception [in this thread] since it offered a
concrete handle?
Carrol Cox wrote:
My position for some years has been that in his remarks on
the relations of production becoming fetters on the forces of
production Marx was plain wrong. There is simply no historical
justification for the claim. (The water wheel, far from giving us the
industrial capitalist
Shane Mage wrote:
Marvin Gandall writes:
...bourgeois-dominated but worker-based
parties like the Democratic party in the US...
If Marvin thinks the Dumbocrats are worker-based
they're most welcome to his support.
I'm not speaking here of the mass of the
[was: RE: [PEN-L] Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference]
Ian wrote: Meanwhile, there are yet other differences today's would be
revolutionaries have to deal with: a soft cage of computer surveillance
that grows ever more elaborate with each passing week; massive stockpiles
of
ertugrul ahmet tonak wrote:
How do you know I found Mage's commentary especially appealing because
I liked his clever sobriquets like Ubu, Bushits, and Dumbocrats
Uh, that was a joke, unlike Jurriaan accusing me of political
racism, or some such, which I just let pass.
rather than, like Michael
Title: George W. Bush's back-door political machine
George W. Bush's back-door political machine
It's anti-democratic, anti-Constitutional, and is working to create a one-party America
for Mediatransparency.org
On a Tuesday evening in mid-January, a right-wing Washington writer-for-hire
The fundamental cause of the present acute party crisis lies in the
extremely indecisive, vacillating and dilatory policy of the centre's
leading elements. Confronted with un-postponable organizational needs of the
party, they try to gain time and thereby provide a cover for the policy of
directly
For my money, the best book ever written on the Democrats is by Mike Davis.
Although it appeared in 1986 and examined the failure of the Mondale
candidacy, many of the themes are relevant to today's situation as should
be obvious from the following excerpt I scanned in. Unfortunately, nothing
by
Louis wrote
I was no Dean supporter, but at least
with Dean you would have had a fight. Kerry is just too much of a centrist
and a patrician to really mix it up.
It seems to me that Kerry's anti-war activities in the early 70's was
a safe deviation into sense, to steal from Alexander Pope.
Uh, that was a joke, unlike Jurriaan accusing me of political
racism, or some such, which I just let pass.
Here in Europe, we distinguish between passing wind and a joke. The New
Zealander Bill Rosenberg, a social democrat who sometimes has interesting
things to say, has sometimes posted
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
It costs a left-wing candidate more to run in the Democratic presidential
caucuses and primaries than to run as a Green candidate in the general
election. Howard Dean spent over $40 million, did not win a single
primary, and got forced out on February 18, 2004 [etc.]
I
On Thursday, March 18, 2004 at 12:29:19 (-0500) Funke Jayson J writes:
... Economists for the National Bureau of Economic Research
... (NBER) reinforce the line. They present a welter of statistics to
counter Democratic calls for tax rollbacks. Newspaper editors tend to
view NBER numbers as
so I was supposed to do some public speaking in early May ...and I get
this letter:
Jim,
Well, the shadow of McCarthy still lingers. When your name and
description
was given by our sub-commitee on the Issues Forum to the overall
coordinating commitee,
Eubulides wrote:
Meanwhile, there are yet other differences today's would be
revolutionaries have to deal with:
The sentence above would fit the present thread more precisely if it
read: Meanwhile, there are yet other differences today's progressive
agitators organizers have to deal with. .
March 18, 2004/New York TIMES
Questioning Free Trade Mathematics
By JEFF MADRICK
FREE trade theory has a growing number of detractors, and one of their
traditional concerns has understandably moved to center stage in this
presidential election year. How much has the exporting of jobs to
foreign
This is a really excellent book, great on why the
working class in this country is so divided. jks
--- Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For my money, the best book ever written on the
Democrats is by Mike Davis.
Although it appeared in 1986 and examined the
failure of the Mondale
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
Here in Europe, we distinguish between passing wind and a joke. The New
Zealander Bill Rosenberg, a social democrat who sometimes has interesting
things to say, has sometimes posted sheepfarting stories on PEN-L.
I think the problem with your taken approach is that you end
There is no need for insults. I am asking Jurriaan to sign off immediately.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 02:30:00PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote:
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
Here in Europe, we distinguish between passing wind and a joke. The New
Zealander Bill Rosenberg, a social democrat who sometimes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/18/04 10:19 AM
(By professional revolutionaries Lenin did NOT mean fulltime
revolutionaries. He meant ordinary people who were working for a
living
but in what time they had for politics they trained themselves as well
as possible.)
I think Carrol is basically correct,
Jim C. wrote:
it is an honor to be marginalized and demonized by half-wits, sycophants
and idiots and if for some reason they did like me I would worry and lose
sleep what I am doing wrong - why I have not drawn the line of demarcation
clear enough.
With due respect, I don't look on it that way,
- Original Message -
From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ian replies:
Hey, if you want to give up feel free!
That ain't my plan.
what _is_ your plan?
==
Given your response to the second slice of my post below, I'm going to
respond in a manner consistent with
Some years ago, when I was a 28 years old young man,
I was lovers with an English professor, who was 41
years old at the time.
She must be in her mid-fifties in these days. The
old male professors in her department used to call
me a Greek Boy, although I never understood why.
They knew that I
While the list was flooded with messages from people with plans for organizing other
people, nasty behavior is causing several people whom I regard very highly to leave
the list. If we can't communicate with each other, how the hell do we expect to be
able to carry our message to the masses.
--
--- Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim C. wrote:
it is an honor to be marginalized and demonized by
half-wits, sycophants
and idiots and if for some reason they did like me I
would worry and lose
sleep what I am doing wrong - why I have not drawn
the line of demarcation
clear
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