That oil is a finite resource is not a question; I hope. because if we were to argue it is not, then that is a doosy per se. so what is the problem here, that oil will peak in 2006, 2010, or 2015 etc. is Hubbert's an imprecise forecast method. this is just like saying the bubble will burst but I
Todays The Age (Melbourne) reports surging support for Moqtada al-Sadr
among the millions of pilgrims converging on Karbala for the Shia holiday of
al-Arbaeen, which it sees as a reprieve before an assault by US forces.
The papers Baghdad correspondent Paul McGeough was staggered by the
numbers
First a little point for point
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From:
soula avramidis
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 6:19
AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Mark Jones Was
Right
That oil is a finite resource is
not a question; I hope. because if
I have heard socialists quote depletionists, and quote without criticism,
that the carrying capacity of the earth is only 2 billion people-- and
these same socialists never go to the next step and suggest what we should
do with the 4 billion extras, or how much energy it is going to cost to
cull
They, socialists, are not at all doing their duty when they
uncritically reproduce statements directly Malthusian claiming that the
natural carrying capacity of the earth is 2 billion people.
Such an assertion is more than nonsense, it is reactionary, antithetical
to every single actual fact of
DMS:
They, socialists, are not at all doing their duty when they
uncritically reproduce statements directly Malthusian claiming that the
natural carrying capacity of the earth is 2 billion people.
But clearly the Earth cannot sustain an infinite number of people.
Global warming is not a product
Russky Telegraf, a newspaper owned by one of Russia's most
influential billionaire financiers with major oil interests, said the
film is provocative and dangerous.
It must be a pretty tiny paper, or regional. I've never heard of it. Which financier?
Independent television NTV had offered
Mahmood Mamdani: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/sipa/RESEARCH/bios/mm1124.html
Mahmood Mamdani, _Good Muslim, Bad Muslim: America, the Cold War,
and the Roots of Terror_:
http://www.randomhouse.com/pantheon/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=0375422854
* The New York Times, April 10, 2004
When U.S.
In a message dated 4/10/2004 9:29:54 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Global warming is not a product of 6 billion people on a planet builtfor 2. Global warming is the product of the private property system ofcapital's need to garner profit no matter what the SOCIAL cost.If
I emailed him asking if he was urging a vote for John Kerry in 2004. His
exact words: I'm not urging a vote for anyone in the US.
Louis Proyect
Marxism list: www.marxmail.org
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But clearly the Earth cannot sustain an infinite number of people.
_
DMS: But the issue at hand is not about an
The most thought provoking comment in the UK today suggested that
there are close links between Hezbollah and al-Sadri. Hezobollah among
other things used hostage taking in their successful campaign to get
Israel out of southern Lebanaon.
This would fit with the hidden connection between the
"since global warming has accompanied, step for step, increases
infossil fuel use"
should read "has not
accompanied...
Anyway enough about that-- Interested if
anyone else saw Fuse and/or Vodka Lemon at theFilm
Center/MOMA new directors film festival?
I thought they were both great
Louis Proyect wrote, in part:
The entire
planet, from the New Jersey suburb to the farming village in
Bangladesh,
will have to reexamine the value of these highly touted but
environmentally
destructive commodities once socialism is established worldwide. I am
Two guffs by two important Americans I noticed lately:
The first one is an illustration of how much THOMAS H. KEANs, Chairman
of 9/11 Commission, mind/language is corrupted by the commercialization
of American culture. As Kean was being interviewed by Jim Lehrer
(4/8/2004; PBS) regarding Rices
DMS: But the issue at hand is not about an indefinite future of an
indefinite number of people. It's about the here and now as the
assertions about natural limits and carrying capacity make clear.
And so? As I already explained, I am not for forced sterilization, etc. I
am simply opposed to the
The so-called Mujahideen Brigades kidnapped three young Japanese
civilians in Iraq: Nahoko Takato, 34; Noriaki Imai, 18; and Soichiro
Koriyama, 32. See a photograph of the Japanese hostages at
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/04/09/main_hostage.jpg. Unless
the Japanese government withdraws
Two guffs by two important Americans I noticed lately:
The first one is an illustration of how much THOMAS H. KEANs, Chairman
of 9/11 Commission, mind/language is corrupted by the commercialization
of American culture. As Kean was being interviewed by Jim Lehrer
(4/8/2004; PBS) regarding Rices
1. Louis, the Green Goat is battery powered, a small diesel engine
runs in brief spurts to charge the batteries. Carbon dioxide emissions
as reported to us by their representatives are minimal, since the Green
Goat uses very little carbon based fuel. Carbon dioxide is not an issue
with this
By the way, I think it would be more productive for others to respond to
these issues, ergo, before the moderator tells me, I cede all my
remaining time to my colleagues from anywhere.
dms
DMS wrote:
We do know that it will involve production for use and
the expansion of human needs along with the means for satisfying those
needs. The content of the needs may change, but I don't think we should
be getting ahead of ourselves, and start dictating what will or won't be
planted,
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soula avramidis wrote:
it is like when it becomes more expensive to draw oil out of the ground,
going for control of high reserves of cheaply mined Arab oil (1 dollar per
barrel) makes for a hell business, both in itself and insofar as you
strangle others with it.
Given what they know now, is it
I wrote:this is what Braverman described when he wrote about deskilling. The
skills of the older workers are collected, codified, and controlled by management,
making the employees more interchangeable.
DMS writes:
Yeah, that was the theory all right. Doesn't quite work out in practice. When
we
Unfortunately the bit of over-dramatic rhetoric below indicates the lack of
grounding in the reality of events in Iraq by some on this list. The
statement posted was indeed authentic and was written by folkswho have lived
and struggled in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq rather than analyzing
info
This isn't really a clarification though is it?
Joel
I emailed him asking if he was urging a vote for John Kerry in 2004. His
exact words: I'm not urging a vote for anyone in the US.
Louis Proyect
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Louis Proyect:
I am simply opposed to the notion that the Earth can sustain the life-style
of a New Jersey suburbanite. Just project 10 billion people with Jeep V8s,
central air conditioning, lawns, a TV in every room, beef 5 times a week,
etc. Simply can't be accomplished under any social
This isn't really a clarification though is it?
Joel
I emailed him asking if he was urging a vote for John Kerry in 2004. His
exact words: I'm not urging a vote for anyone in the US.
Louis Proyect
Isn't it clear that he has not joined the ABB camp? Saying that Bush's
removal would be *perceived*
Joel Wendland wrote:
Unfortunately the bit of over-dramatic rhetoric below indicates the lack of
grounding in the reality of events in Iraq by some on this list. The
statement posted was indeed authentic and was written by folkswho have lived
and struggled in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq rather
Julio Huato:
(1) you will choose not to live in NJ and live that lifestyle?
This is not a matter of personal choice. We are discussing how resources
are used.
(2) you will liquidate NJ suburbia, destroy SUVs, AC equipment, TV sets,
computers, devolve the cows to their natural habitat (?), etc.?
I
But you are wrong. Global warming is a byproduct of the burning of
fossilfuel. There is no socialist solution to this problem.
_
DMS: No, global warming is not simply a byproduct of burning fossil
fuel, since global warming has accompanied, step for step, increases in
It is pretty clear that uprisings in the last few
days are not anti-imperialist but indeed are a struggle for power
within
the framework of the handover by the US on the June 30th. The forces at
the
head of these movements that have emerged in the past few days may have
a
lot to gain by forcing an
At 7:59 PM -0400 4/10/04, Louis Proyect wrote:
Joel Wendland wrote:
Unfortunately the bit of over-dramatic rhetoric below indicates the
lack of grounding in the reality of events in Iraq by some on
this list. The statement posted was indeed authentic and was
written by folkswho have lived and
LIGHTS OUT! PRIVATIZATION
AND DEREGULATION OF ELECTRICITY
presented by New York Union for Radical Political Economics and the
Brecht Forum
Wednesday
This is long...cheers , Ken Hanly
Here is an article spelling out the differences
between the Iraqi Communist Party, which is part of
the recently established governing council, and the
Worker-Communist party of Iraq.
I hope that you find it of interest.
OUR DIFFERENCES *
Which are the
One of the key historical factors in the development of the United States was the
role of land speculators in creating sprawl -- not just suburban sprawl but rural
sprawl in the early years of this country.
Had the country experienced a planned development, energy needs would be far less.
--
This and other items are posted on the Worker
Communist Party site:
http://www.wpiraq.org/english/
Of the two, I prefer the WCP and their approach to
politics and poltical-economy.
Regards,
Mike B)
***
The conflict between Muqtada al-Sadr
From the Financial Times of 4/6:
"...Floriculture is Kenya's most recent success
story... it now has a turnover of $180 million a year. Last year the
industry grew 18 percent, and combined with fruit and vegetable production,
overtook tourisma and coffee to become the country's second
At 10:29 PM -0500 4/10/04, dmschanoes wrote:
the fighters in the streets demanding the withdrawal of US forces
It is understandable that secular Communists are weary of fighters
inspired by their religious faith, as the latter may not have any
fond regard for the former, but the only way that
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