Some points from the discussion about the chronology

Let me give a few answers to some comments made on my chronology of Russian-Chechen relations. * I refered to a Russian puppet government set up in 1996. Chris Doss took this as a typo or an odd reference to the Maskhadov govt. Actually, it was a reference to the puppet Chechen par

Re: Thomas Sowell

David, I cannot help noticing that you have written close to 1000 words about what a fantastic chap Thomas Sowell is, and not a single word about the actual (IMO lousy) boilerplate free trade hackwork that was forwarded to the list. This also, is a form of "argumentum ad hominem". dd -Orig

the Lump redux

As some Pen-l oldtimers may recall, in the late 1990s I embarked on a quest for the locus classicus of the oddly-named lump-of-labour fallacy. I eventually identified an article by D.F. Schloss as the source. Now, it turns out, the critique of the "fixed amount of work," if not the whimsical name a

Re: Thomas Sowell

One more thing on Sowell and whether he is a hack. Ironically, he has an essay on his website on writing and editing. Apparently, he is not fond of academic prose. http://www.tsowell.com/About_Writing.html David Shemano

Re: Thomas Sowell

Laurence Shute writes:   "I agree with both: Jim's analysis of Sowell's article was great.  And some of Sowell's early stuff was quite good.  For example,  "Marx's 'Increasing Misery' Doctrine," American Economic Review, March 1960, pp. 111-120.   I think I recall that Sowell had trouble find

Re: Korean victory over privatisation

Gene, that is a great victory. Can you shed any light on why privatization of electricity is now off the agenda while privatization of other key services remains on that agenda. In other words, the decision to cancel privatization of the electric power system obviously does not represent a broade

Re: Sowell's "right turn"

Carol Cox wrote: Laurence Shute wrote: > >It > looks like he made his right turn around then. > An interesting ambiguity. "Right turn" means "turn to the right" or the "right turn to make." :-) Sorry, just hasty writing; no ambiguity or talmudic questioning intended. :-) Sowell is a bright guy an

Korean victory over privatisation

Korea recently effectively ended the move to privatize the electric power system. Privatization had been driven by the usual IMF/WB pressure, and steps had been taken down that path. A recent decision ended the move toward privatization. I was there last week for a symposium on the issue which wa

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The Green Party Missing the "Walter Cronkite Moment"

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Re: Chechnya and capitalism

In a message dated 6/29/2004 8:19:03 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >"What would happen if the Old World, or more concretely Russia, will abdicate from the rules of dynamics, from the technological race, in favour of the rules of static? Let's examine this question in

FW: A right hook in the Washington Times

FYI From: James K. Galbraith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friends, Today's effort is co-authored with the supply-side brigand, Jude Wanniski, and appears in the notorious Washington Times. Jamie http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20040628-092019-6437r.htm Rate hike reservations By James G

Gloves Off -- Summer 2004

Gloves Off Summer 2004 Issue In our last issue, Gloves Off presented the first installment of "Perspectives on the Global Justice Movement" , with views from Latin America, Europe and the US on the future, the challenges, and the contraditions facing the movement. Now get ready fo

Re: presidential election

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/22/04 3:29 PM >>> Is the Nader campaign the best way to build the mass movements we need? jd <> no election campaign is 'best' way to build mass movements, they are too periodic & episodic, too narrowly focused, running a campaign 'to make a point' (or points) is s

Re: Thomas Sowell

Laurence Shute wrote: > >It > looks like he made his right turn around then. > An interesting ambiguity. "Right turn" means "turn to the right" or the "right turn to make." :-) Carrol

Condi Does Michigan State

Hi All, Just wanted to let you know that Harvey Wasserman's & Bob Fitrakis' The Free Press published my piece today. . .it's another chapter in the annals of higher ed corruption. http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/20/2004/705 Brian

Re: Capitalism and the environment - seems interesting

The DSP's major work on the environment is now available online athttp://www.dsp.org.au/dsp/ECS/index.htmContents:  Chapter 1. The threat to human survival     1. Destroying the biosphere 1. The atmosphere: greenhouse, acid rain and

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

In a message dated 6/29/2004 8:55:08 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is cities, alienating people from one another and from the natural way of life, which faultlessly and uninterruptedly manufacture the biological raw material needed by the state: all these accu

Re: More "progress" in Russia

Budget money allocated for World War II veterans will be 20 times greater and 10 times greater for the disabled, President Vladimir Putin said Monday as he tried to win support from a skeptical population for his plans to replace

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Maybe some people should take their own advice. But please do take me off the list, Michael. Louis Proyect lnp3 at panix.com Tue May 4 16:35:29 MDT 2004 Previous message: [Marxism] My credentials? Next message: [Marxism] My credentials? Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ autho

[Fwd: The myth of the self-made millionaire]

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Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Perelman, Michael wrote: Lou, "demanding" does not work or belong here. I think that Chris is going to unsub because of this mode of communication. Excuse me? Chris Doss: Dammit, answer my question. What should Russia's reaction have been two armed incursions by jihadi gunmen? Sit there and take

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Lou, "demanding" does not work or belong here. I think that Chris is going to unsub because of this mode of communication. You can disagree. You can supply other facts. The non-personal part of the dialogue is useful; the personal part is not. -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Michael Perelman wrote: It is a shame that so much information is mixed with the personal stuff. What is so personal about demanding that he back up his slander about "raiding"? The main excuse of the Kremlin for its criminal war is that it is rooting out bandits. -- The Marxism list: www.marxmail.

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

It is a shame that so much information is mixed with the personal stuff. Joseph laid out a fairly non-controversial time table. Maybe Lou and Chris could each lay out a list of their key points of agreement & disagreement. For example, I think that all concerned agree that Yeltsin made things wo

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Chris Doss wrote: And here he is apologizing for the quaint custom of blood revenge. And the Old Testament calls for an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. In any case, I can only conclude that he does not advocate "raiding" at this point. That's progress. -- The Marxism list: www.marxmail.org

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

And here he is apologizing for the quaint custom of blood revenge.   We can cite many examples of how the state destroys blood ties, and even their genetic framework, not to mention their spiritual content. Those who watch TV and read newspapers will understand what I’m speaking about: abandoned ch

Re: Thomas Sowell

I think that Sowell, like Powell, has Caribbean roots. Sometimes, they look down on those whose ancestors were slaves here. I am sure someone here knows more about this than I do. Glen Lowry could not maintain his right wing discipline. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

There is no need to relate this way. On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 10:03:03AM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote: > So where does he recommending "raiding" as a way of life? Or did you > just make that up? > > Chris Doss wrote: > > > > Hot damn, Nukhayev even has a website (with part of it "in inglish" > > (sic

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

I know. For some reason, the cheap shots always seem to come from one direction.Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is no need to relate this way. Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Let's keep it nice! On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 07:08:06AM -0700, Chris Doss wrote: > Read the book! > > Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:So where does he recommending "raiding" as a > way of life? Or did you > just make that up? > > Chris Doss wrote: > > > > Hot damn, Nukhayev even has a web

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Read the book!Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So where does he recommending "raiding" as a way of life? Or did youjust make that up?Chris Doss wrote:>> Hot damn, Nukhayev even has a website (with part of it "in inglish"> (sic)). Yeah, this is superprogressive:>> No matter how blasphemous i

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

So where does he recommending "raiding" as a way of life? Or did you just make that up? Chris Doss wrote: Hot damn, Nukhayev even has a website (with part of it "in inglish" (sic)). Yeah, this is superprogressive: No matter how blasphemous it may seem, I have to comment that the Russians, by embark

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

  Hot damn, Nukhayev even has a website (with part of it "in inglish" (sic)). Yeah, this is superprogressive:   No matter how blasphemous it may seem, I have to comment that the Russians, by embarking on their latest war, helped us to avoid the fate of being turned into a state and of having a tota

Re: Thomas Sowell

Once or twice, I've jokingly told my department chair (who's African-American) that he could have made Big Money if he'd gone right-wing. There's truth there, though it's very rare that someone actually chooses their political orientation as one would choose a dessert. The conservatives _love_ a

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Read Klebnikov's book. Have you ever heard of Nukhayev? -Original Message- From: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:34:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Chechnya and capitalism > > Chris Doss wrote: > > > > Somebody should tell Counterpunch that

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Actually, Chechen radical ideologists such as Nukhayev are explicitly > anti-modernist and believe that the Chechens should live like their > ancestors did, live in tribes and herd goats and raid. This kind of characterization reminds me of James Robertson, leader of the Spartacist League, describ

FW: element of surprise shocker

INSPIRED BY IRAQI HANDOVER, BUSH HOLDS U.S. ELECTION FOUR MONTHS EARLY Element of Surprise Cited As Bush Romps to Victory [by Andy Borowitz] Inspired by the early handover of sovereignty in Iraq, President George W. Bush employed the element of surprise once more last night, holding the U.S. pr

Re: Low Taxes Do What!?

On Monday, June 28, 2004 at 18:33:12 (-0700) David B. Shemano writes: > >He is a hack because he is a popularizer? ... He is a hack because he writes well-punctuated, superficial drivel. Bill

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Chris Doss wrote: Somebody should tell Counterpunch that Putin has no son. He has two daughters. In fact I just sent a note to Jeff St. Clair to remove it from the website. In any case, it has about as much accuracy as your describing Nukhayev as recommending to the Chechens that they make their li

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Somebody should tell Counterpunch that Putin has no son. He has two daughters. ---   A couple of years ago Vladimir Putin journeyed to the American Southwest to take his natural son on an initiation ritual. The boy's mother is now an American citizen. Do you Yahoo!? New and Improve

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Chris Doss wrote: On Chechnya and the modern nation state/finance capital: Actually, Chechen radical ideologists such as Nukhayev are explicitly anti-modernist and believe that the Chechens should live like their ancestors did, live in tribes and herd goats and raid. This kind of characterizati

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

On Chechnya and the modern nation state/finance capital:   Actually, Chechen radical ideologists such as Nukhayev are explicitly anti-modernist and believe that the Chechens should live like their ancestors did, live in tribes and herd goats and raid. A few years ago he was invited to Moscow to par

Re: Malthus Was Wrong

Malthus did not give a hoot about population. Nor did he even consult the census. His dad was sort of radical. He wrote the first essay in a few days to prove that you could not make society better because population growth would absorb any incremental improvements. Later, he worried about popul

The presidential election and the Supreme Court

(One of the main excuses of the ABB crowd for backing the pro-war, DLC, Joe Lieberman wannabe John Kerry is that we need to reverse the rightward drift of the Supreme Court. Leaving aside the question of John Kerry announcing that he is amenable to the nomination of ultraconservative judges, th

Low Taxes Do What!?

Why is he a hack? The man turns out a book every year on far-ranging topics. His writings on international affirmative action and cultural migrations are first-rate. He writes a popular syndicated column that is clear, informative and entertaining. He is a true public intellectual. Disagree

Re: More "progress" in Russia

I think the big issue is that the payments aren't indexed to inflation. Like I said, I haven't done the math it would be necessary to do to see the effect of the changeover for good or ill (I've seen the figures for the amounts of payments, but don't know the cash value of the benefits).Michael Per

Re: More "progress" in Russia

Cash grants are far easier to cut. First you make them means tested. Then you denigrate the less influenial people who depend on the grants as undeserving Of course, the money for WW II veterans should be in decline because of demographics. On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 03:25:04AM -0700, Chris D

Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- part three

Actually, I answered this question. Chris just didn't like my answer. Ofcourse, I was referring to how to deal with a series of problems in theCaucasus, not just the Dagestani events used by Putin as a pretext to renouncethe peace accords with Chechnya, to declare that a Russian puppet government s

Re: Thomas Sowell

Michael Perelman wrote: Some of Sowell's early stuff on Say's law was pretty good.  Then he became more of a right wing hack.  Reagan tried to get him to be Sec. of Education.  Now his most appears as a syndicated right wing ideologue. Jim's critique was excellent. I agree with both: Jim's analys

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

  I suspect much as I disagree with the oppression of the Chechens now,and consider it disastrous for the unity of the people of the world,since they are seen as representatives of muslim people oppressed bychristians, I suspect that hidden away in current Russian analysisthere are details about th

Re: More "progress" in Russia

  This gives the other side of the story: Tuesday, June 29, 2004. Page 1. Veterans, Disabled Slated for Extra AidBy Caroline McGregor Staff Writer Budget money allocated for World War II veterans will be 20 times greater and 10 times greater for the disabled, President Vladimir Putin said M

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

    However I am really arguing that if we try to study historyconcretely, as well as with a flaming heart, we have to interpretthese national questions not only from the point of view of theinterests of the international unity of working people, but also fromthe point of view of economic viability

Re: More "progress" in Russia

This article misstates the situation (but then it's only a wire story). What is happening is that the government is going over from a system of giving benefits (like free public transportation) to giving monetary supplements to targeted groups (pensioners, heroes of the Soviet Union or Russia, i

Re: Malthus Was Wrong

Malthus was not the first to differentiate between food supplies and population growth, that was almost received theory at the time. Malthus argued for small govenment. Long before Malthus tackled the “poor law” in England with his hands off welfare approach,[1] the discourse relating small governm