In a message dated 6/9/2001 11:36:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As a congenital incomprehensible myself, I have an instinctive sympathy and
patience for struggling incomprehensibles. I'm afraid to say, though, I
couldn't grok the eonic effect and I'm afraid it may be eon
Darwin has confused more philosophers, beginning with Nietzsche, than any
other scientist. It is time the game stopped.After Robert Wright's
reactionary version of political Darwinism in his incoherent Non Zero with
its Kant desecration we now close the circle with Peter Singer's
pseudo-leftist
Times are changing. What is the harm of a brief exposition of a thesis on
universal history of direct relevance to all leftist issues? Marxist
historical theory is in crisis. Don't kick a gift horse in the mouth. I lost
a lot for supporting a leftist perspective. To be unsubscribed makes me a
In a message dated 6/8/2001 6:15:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, I think it would be best if you signed off pen-l, as you had
promised.
This is intolerable discourtesy. I was about to leave. Now surely I won't.
You want me to sign off. Say why.
John Landon
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In a message dated 6/8/2001 2:43:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I agree with Anthony. This thread is not going anywhere
A final comment. If this thread is going nowhere, then let it stop. But then
please do not associate me or my work with New Ageism, even if I mention
Up periscope a minute..
I was interested in the comments on the Gospel of Buddha. Since I am not a
Buddhist, nor a Christian, my point was missed (I never made it), which was
not to pit traditional religion either againt Darwinism or Marxism.
Discussion tends to get rubricked under the terms 's
Nautilus sights capital frigate
The wind done blew blew blew our faces flat
and all across the seascape loomed the rain
in clouds that tumbled like a blown off hat.
I watched as Nemo scoped the swelling main.
Nemo seemed distant, yet present from a mile.
"Nemini, there", he shouted, pointing alee
bye
John Landon
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Website on eonic effect
http://eonix.8m.com
http://www.eonica.net
The objective, external forces which have hitherto dominated history will
then pass under control of men themselves. Itis only from this point that
men, with full consciousness, will fashion theirown history; it is only at
this point that the social causes set in motion bymen will have,
predomi
Although we might be wary of allpurely metaphysical approaches to the study
of history, the pattern of what we will find from the periodization of
civilizations must almost by definition pertain directly to theideas of
so-called Universal History. This idea finds its classic realization in
the
Since a Tathagata, even when actually present, is incomprehensible, it is
inept to say of him that after dying the Tathagata is, or is not, or both is
and is not, or neither is or is not.
Samyutta Nikaya, III, 118
John Landon
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Website on eonic effect
http://eonix.8m.com
http:/
In a message dated 6/5/2001 7:34:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, maybe it will be best if you leave. It would have been more
fruitful if you had been able to create a dialogue.
I don't think people are defensive about Darwin. It is more that you
never made a clea
This is a good example of the way secular thought is being outflanked,
Spetner is good, the physicists are starting to take a look at the Darwinian
theory.
I will leave you with that
Guard dogs that won't bark...
Dr. Edward E. Max posted an essay entitled The Evolution of Improved Fitn
Thanks a lot for the gesture, and to Michael also. I will be on my way soon,
hounded off the list--nope, I am never hounded, I am done for the nonce.
Doesn't matter. This kind of hostility wears off. I must remember just how
hard it is to really deal with issues of ideology and evolution.
I hop
In a message dated 6/5/2001 6:50:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Anthony DCosta wrote:
> Who is a "good buddha"?
>
no, no, not "a" good buddha. "the" good buddha, as in the main man
himself, siddharth, gautama, you know, the dude with the piled-on-
top-in-a-bun hairdo
In a message dated 6/5/2001 6:50:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
no, no, not "a" good buddha. "the" good buddha, as in the main man
himself, siddharth, gautama, you know, the dude with the piled-on-
top-in-a-bun hairdo and the funky toga robe thingummy, who turned
to exist
Let's keep this in perspecitve. Mr. Phillion finds me threatening (, Sen
woodcutters?), my post was due to my finding him threatening. It's that
simple. And it would be threatening in the end, to me, make no mistake,
nothing against Mr. Phillion. It was a declaration that killing off Buddhis
In a message dated 6/5/2001 4:48:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, I don't quite understand your note, but it does sound wierd. Here
is the problem. I don't think that anybody has quite figured out what you
are trying to say about Kant, Hegel and the like.
Generally
In a message dated 6/5/2001 4:32:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
michael,
for crying out loud, is this kind of threatening necessary on this list?
This has gotten wierd enough already for some kind of action, no?
Threatening? I fail to see how you got that from such a p
I don't like being cut off when protesting people getting unnecessarily
killed, twice at that. Make sure it stops there and there isn't a third not a
third.
I am no Buddhist, but I do have Buddhist friends. They used to be very
peaceful people. One of them read your post, and wondered where y
If truth is whole, Hegelian truth would do well to be studied in the context
of the whole of German philosophy, if not world philosophy. The sudden
re-start, in medias res, in the wake of Kant and the mysterious decade of the
1790's as Kant's system is a) transcended b) plundered of the mummy st
In a message dated 6/2/2001 1:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hegel is definitely a believer in conflict. He dared to undertake a
consummation of Philosophy, Western and Eastern. He embraced the
resulting conflict despite finding it disturbing. Maybe his search for
the
In a message dated 6/2/2001 1:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hegel is definitely a believer in conflict. He dared to undertake a
consummation of Philosophy, Western and Eastern. He embraced the
resulting conflict despite finding it disturbing. Maybe his search for
the
In a message dated 6/2/2001 1:25:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/02/technology/02INTE.html?pagewanted=pr
int
June 2, 2001
Adding Up the Costs of Cyberdemocracy
By ALEXANDER STILLE
As Cass Sunstein, a professor of law at the University of Chi
In a message dated 6/1/2001 7:12:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
waste of bandwith
Give me a break man, you have to answer sooner or later to such issues, if
not to me.
Also, let me be a clearer. Forget this Rajnesh, he's too confusing. I am
sorry I mentioned it. N
In a message dated 5/31/2001 10:35:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thorough waste of bandwith
steve
I find that an arrogant response, old dodo. Then please remember that you do
not represent anyone's struggle for socialist freedom. At least don't get in
the way o
In a message dated 5/31/2001 9:16:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Goldman, Marion S. Passionate journeys : why successful women joined a cult
/ Marion S. Goldman.
Ann Arbor : University of Michigan Press, c1999
Thanks for the reference. But I have read more than my s
Having been scorched as a New Ager, I would inject a perspective nonetheless
along those lines. Press the delete button, if you prefer. Thinking about
Blaut's book I was reminded of the deep confusion over Eurocentric issues now
engulging globalization, it would seem, with total incomprehension
In a message dated 5/30/2001 3:07:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't the point to have some of real effect on the
world, as opposed to being caught up in discussion
group with no apparent relevance?
=
This is the subject of a rather well-titled (and written) Month
Here is a short review that I mentioned of J. Schwarz' Sudden Origins, a
very interesting book with a new perspective on evolution in the age of the
new hox genes. I cannot fully endorse this new theory in such a rapidly
changing field, but the book gives a good snapshot of a changing field, an
In a message dated 5/25/2001 9:10:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What _is_ your method? I'm begging you. Please explain it. I don't
understand it. What is "Darwin-style thinking?" I honestly don't know
what you mean.
Questions of method can be quite vexing. I am sendin
Thanks for your reply. I am astonished to get replied to at all. Your
responses are interesting, and important. Mostly it's behind the scenes
'titters' going through the 'he's mad' phase of this.
Let me say that I conceded to the 'eonic effect for ten year olds' because it
seemed amusing at t
Let me finally reanswer the question of the 'origins of capitalism' in terms
of my extended statements. With this apparatus the answer is trivial, though
still mysterious. The question of 'capitalism' requires being settled, to
some degree, by definition. Do we mean the Neolithic trade in obsid
Checkmate for Darwinism applied to history.
I defy any team of scientists, philosophers, Darwinists or anyone else to sit
down and try and refute this argument taken in its full scope. They won't
because they can't, and prefer, since they control the paradigm to play
ostrich, and simply exploi
Here's a quick effort to complete the argument, but it is already impossible
to quite make the point in one post.
The term 'eonic' for some is a problem, perhaps, it can be dropped. Just
think of 'intermittent', or 'on-off'. Also, we have a problem. Some
mysteries are of the unknown, new infor
One more 'chiller' to make Darwin fans weak kneed. Before looking at the
eonic effect you feel sure there is no going back, burn your bridges behind
you.
The following quotation is from my webpage and is a critique by John Campbell
of population genetics models that are often presented as a fa
Thank you for your comments. Generally, even answering me is bad form, and
takes courage, due to my "extravagantly alternative thesis'. It is
remarkable, but not extravagant, and not so alternative as it might seem.
Alternative to what? The current scene of historical theory is incoherent. So
It might be interesting to sketch briefly the 'eonic effect' solution to this
intractable problem of defining the beginning of capitalism. The problem
disappears.
If we perceive discontinuity and the need for a model to mirror this, then a
new property is available, relative onset, or relativ
In a message dated 5/16/2001 11:49:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I also like the way you try to
incoporate Kant into your account. But I am not sure exactly what
it is about this incomparable thinker that attracts you enough to
include him.
In looking at the eonic
In a message dated 5/16/2001 7:59:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I can't find the words to describe the disgust I feel at seeing Ellen
Meiksins Wood scoring points off my friend Jim Blaut in the pages of the
latest ATC. I guess Brenner and Wood, who were evidently too c
Actually you have a point about Kant. It throws people off. He is considered
an idealist. He isn't really. He is a transcendental idealist and an
empirical realist, confusing terminology, but if you can't figure out why
Darwninists can lead themselves into confusion, it is worth considering the
The question of universal history blends into that of evolution. We do not
observe evolution at close hand, and infer from that nonetheless the
mechanism of its processes, hence of the descent of man.
As we close on the record of history, we see something else. That is a big
claim on my part. B
In a message dated 5/16/2001 8:45:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John:
The work was cited and summarized this year in
History and Theory. But no respectable journal will touch it. C'est la
vie.
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Actually, mad dog, History and Theory is a highly respected jou
Just had three smear reviews of World History and the Eonic Effect removed
from Amazon.com book siteThey hadn't even bothered to read the book. The
Darwin enforcers are busy, and you might be interested to see how they play
this game. Plus a firestorm attack counterattack on the Kant-l list,
In a message dated 2/15/2001 7:37:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A great number of economists, sociologists, and political scientists are
attempting to do something approximating what you suggest. I presume you
are aware of the world-system school represented by Immanuel
This was an interesting thread on mathematical economics, I learned a lot,
and got some good leads. Thanks. I think Hahn's book is a good one to look
at, along with the reference to Cottrell's recent book. I think we should
commit on the price allocating computer in a bunker.
Does anyone know
In a message dated 2/6/2001 12:28:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Check out Bruno Ingrao and Giorgio Israel, The invisible hand: economic
equilibrium in the history of science, Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1990.
Ingrao and Israel's book is a fine introduction to the Arro
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