Doug tells the truth..........................

2001-11-22 Thread Ian Murray
< http://www.thenation.com > FEATURE STORY | Special Report Terrorism and Globalization by DOUG HENWOOD The organizers of the Globalization and Resistance Conference, held at the City University of New York's Graduate Center on November 16 and 17, had a very bad stroke of luck. They started pl

Doug tells the truth..........................

2001-11-26 Thread Charles Brown
Doug tells the truth.. by Doug Henwood ((( CB: Doug, if imperialism/globalization is not the main cause of terrorism, what is the cause of terrorism ? ((( But are > things really that simple? Latin America and East> Asia, two of the > reg

Re: Doug tells the truth....

2001-11-23 Thread Chris Burford
At 22/11/01 23:18 -0800, you wrote: >< http://www.thenation.com > >FEATURE STORY | Special Report > >Terrorism and Globalization >by DOUG HENWOOD Doug's ability to "doubt everything" serves him well in this journalistic article which for the audience, may be more creative than coming up with p

Re: Doug tells the truth..........................

2001-11-23 Thread Mark Jones
"The truth"about Doug 'I'm no pacifist' Henwood is that he, too, is in favour of US policy, that is, Henwood favours the policy of bombing Afghan towns and cities, he favours the random and/or mass slaughter of Afghanis, he favours the destruction of whatever remains of the social infrastructur

Re: Doug tells the truth..........................

2001-11-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Doug seems to suggest that since Afghan. has been relatively untouched by globalization, the link between terror and globalization has yet to be proved. Of course, I have not heard of any Afghani terrorists; supposedly many of the hijackers on S 11 were from Saudi Arabia. -- Michael Perelman Ec

Re: Doug tells the truth

2002-05-17 Thread Sabri Oncu
> I am sure Michael will want this thread closed > for content, as he did in November, but perhaps > Max can clarify where the technical problem is. > > Chris Burford Such things happen every now and then. Virus is definitely one possibility, a very long and very slow trip with delays around the

Re: Re: Doug tells the truth..........................

2001-11-23 Thread Michael Perelman
whoa, Mark. Rather than characterize Doug as a craven apologist, let him elaborate if he wants to do so. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Doug tells the truth..........................

2001-11-23 Thread Justin Schwartz
> >When assessing 'the truth' of Henwood's politics, let us begin with this >obvious fact -- the man is simply a craven apologist for exterminism, for >US imperialism in its newest and most lethal guise. > > Oh, he's worse than that. He's a running dog of the imperialist bourgeoisie, a flak for

Re: Re: Doug tells the truth..........................

2001-11-23 Thread Stephen E Philion
Mark in the apoplectic mode contends: "The truth"about Doug 'I'm no pacifist' Henwood is that he, too, is in favour of US policy, that is, Henwood favours the policy of bombing Afghan towns and cities, he favours the random and/or mass slaughter of Afghanis, he favours the destruction of whatever

Re: Doug tells the truth, etc.

2001-11-24 Thread Christian Gregory
> > Perhaps we are talking at cross-purposes here. Doug, Steve, Joan > Robinson, etc. are saying that under capitalism it's better to be > employed than unemployed; Ali, Paul, etc. are saying that capitalism > on the periphery is very much worse than other modes of production & > especially so wh

RE:Re: Doug tells the truth, etc.

2001-11-24 Thread jdevine
Christian writes:>To be "unemployed" is to be within capital's orbit (ie it's a distinction that applies to populations constructed statistically by nation-states and super-national bodies.) Robinson is saying that being outside of that orbit is far worse than being in it. That is, even unemploy

Re: Doug tells the truth, etc.

2001-11-24 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
> > Perhaps we are talking at cross-purposes here. Doug, Steve, Joan >> Robinson, etc. are saying that under capitalism it's better to be >> employed than unemployed; Ali, Paul, etc. are saying that capitalism >> on the periphery is very much worse than other modes of production & >> especia

RE: Re: Doug tells the truth..........................

2002-05-16 Thread Max Sawicky
MJ: "The truth"about Doug 'I'm no pacifist' Henwood is that he, too, is in favour of US policy, that is, Henwood favours the policy of bombing Afghan towns and cities, he favours the random and/or mass slaughter of Afghanis, he favours the destruction of whatever remains of the social infrastr

Doug tells the truth or equal retort

2001-11-23 Thread ALI KADRI
"And Afghanistan, their current home, is almost entirely outside the circuits of global trade and capital flows--an exclusion that contributes greatly to its extreme poverty and social disintegration. (As the economist Joan Robinson once said, under capitalism, "the misery of being exploited by ca

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2001-11-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Doug went into more detail in LBO, but Stephen, you should not pile onto the flames by attacking Mark. On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 07:12:22AM -1000, Stephen E Philion wrote: > > --Wierd, on other lists I've not seen any evidence of this. He's > challenged the likes of Leo Casey on LBO and Soc. Regis

Re: Re: RE: Re: Doug tells the truth..........................

2002-05-16 Thread Michael Perelman
I wrote to Max an hour ago trying to find out the origin of this. Mark has not been here for some time. On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 12:28:18AM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: > Max Sawicky wrote: > > >MJ: "The truth"about Doug 'I'm no pacifist' Henwood is that he, too, is in > >favour of US policy, tha

Re: Re: RE: Re: Doug tells the truth..........................

2002-05-17 Thread Chris Burford
At 17/05/02 00:28 -0400, you wrote: >Where the fuck did this come from? And why is it dated Nov 24 2002? > >Doug The letter from Mark Jones quoted by Max was originally sent on Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:04:31 + Although Max sent a number of posts on this thread on 26 Nov I can find no record o

Let's kill this thread: was Re: Doug tells the truth, etc.

2001-11-24 Thread Michael Perelman
I think that we can drop the title of this thread. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]