Re: Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8)(fwd)

2000-03-31 Thread Charles Brown
Stephen E Philion [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/30/00 08:05PM This thread is looking more and more like a spam thread. CB: Sounds like a first step to intellectual execution. CB

Further excuses of religion: RE: NYU Conference Schedule(April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread md7148
Max, I take your comments as misunderstanding me. I simply could not see the relationship between "religion" and "socialism" in some theoretical sense. This has nothing to do with rejecting "democratic values" or bashing religious people in favor of democracy (whatever it is). If I offended your

RE: Further excuses of religion: RE: NYU Conference Schedule(April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Mine wrote: Max, I take your comments as misunderstanding me. I simply could not see the relationship between "religion" and "socialism" in some theoretical sense. . . . Actually I wasn't attacking you, or meaning to. It was my way of being friendly. I was attacking Louis. Who is Louis? Don't

Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread Jim Devine
At 11:51 PM 3/29/00 -0500, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: labor-religion coalition? interfaith commitee? people of faith net work? what are these to be exact? what have they got to with labor rights, sweatshops and social justice issues? I'm no fan of religion, and I'm guessing you're not

Re: Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread Mark Rickling
From: "Jim Devine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and it would be truly groovy if the CATHOLIC WORKER leader Dorothy Day became a saint, almost making up for the on-going move to make Fr. Junipero Serra one) Vatican to Weigh Sainthood For Reformer Dorothy Day By Hanna Rosin Washington Post Staff Writer

Re: Re: Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread Jim Devine
When asked about sainthood directly, [Dorothy Day] famously quipped: "Don't trivialize me by trying to make me a saint." and Lenin said he didn't want any statues of him built, since they attract pigeons. No-one has any control over what happens after they die. My point, BTW, was that it

Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread md7148
it is indeed true that religious folks do a lot of "useful" things. the last time I was in Turkey, they were subjecting girls to virginity tests in local high schools in case there was a complaint from their parents about the sexual dignity of their daughters.. in other times, they created a

Re: Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread Stephen E Philion
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are your catholic folks progressive enough when it comes to gender issues? just crucious to know... Mine Steve: The answer to that is, obviously, yes. Many Catholic lefties are pro-choice,...all one has to do is read their literature. They might

Re: Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread Rod Hay
I don't see the need to stereotype religious people. In my experience their political believes and practice varies as much as those of non-believers. Yes there are religious fascists, but there are atheists fascists as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is indeed true that religious folks do

Re: Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread md7148
Re: Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd) I don't see the need to stereotype religious people. In my experience their political believes and practice varies as much as those of non-believers. Yes there are religious fascists, but there are atheists fascists as well. [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Re: Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-30 Thread michael
I asked you to stop this thread off list. This is your last warning, Mine. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-29 Thread Michael Hoover
forwarded by Michael Hoover Labor's Next Century: New Alliances, Sweatshops and the Global South An international conference at New York University on the future of post-Seattle alliances, international organizing and the struggle for human rights April 7-8 at Judson Memorial

NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-29 Thread md7148
labor-religion coalition? interfaith commitee? people of faith net work? what are these to be exact? what have they got to with labor rights, sweatshops and social justice issues? Mine Hoover wrote: Organized by the NYU Program in American Studies Co-sponsors: United Students

RE: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-29 Thread Max B. Sawicky
labor-religion coalition? interfaith commitee? people of faith net work? what are these to be exact? what have they got to with labor rights, sweatshops and social justice issues? Mine N.B. These are the components of the U.S. left that actually do useful things, talk to real people in a

Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-29 Thread Doug Henwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: labor-religion coalition? interfaith commitee? people of faith net work? what are these to be exact? what have they got to with labor rights, sweatshops and social justice issues? I'm no fan of religion, and I'm guessing you're not either, but there's no doubt that

Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-29 Thread Carrol Cox
Doug Henwood wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: labor-religion coalition? interfaith commitee? people of faith net work? what are these to be exact? what have they got to with labor rights, sweatshops and social justice issues? I'm no fan of religion, and I'm guessing you're not either,

Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-29 Thread Stephen E Philion
Mine, Have you heard of liberation theology to begin with? Steve On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: labor-religion coalition? interfaith commitee? people of faith net work? what are these to be exact? what have they got to with labor rights, sweatshops and social justice

RE: Re: Re: NYU Conference Schedule (April 7-8) (fwd)

2000-03-29 Thread Max B. Sawicky
And in the olden days of the 1960's, the Quakers were pretty important in the draft resistance and anti-Vietnam war action. mbs I'm no fan of religion, and I'm guessing you're not either, but there's no doubt that religious people do lots of extremely admirable labor, human rights, and