I quoted Hitchens:
> >It's not enough that the two-party machine has all the
> >money at its disposal and all the press and media, too. It still needs
> >courageous volunteers to ram its message home. These unctuous surrogates
> >seek to persuade us that, though we have no power, we can and should
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> From: "Jim Devine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >It's not enough that the two-party machine
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
> Nathan:
>
> >The continual evasion by Nader and other Green supporters for the results of
> >their leadership and actions is incredibly distressing on that point.
Nathan, do all voters to the left of Calvin Coolidge belong to you Democrats by
devine right or something
Nathan:
>The continual evasion by Nader and other Green supporters for the results of
>their leadership and actions is incredibly distressing on that point. I far
>prefer Carroll forthright joy in undercutting Gore -- at least that is taking
>responsibility that others can evaluate and decide is
Nader and his supporters had the power to throw the election to
Bush. That
is very real power. I have frankly urged that since the Greens have
exercised that power, they should now take advantage of it to promote a
radical change in the electoral college in favor of ranked voting
or i
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From: "Jim Devine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>It's not enough that the two-party machine has all the
>money at its disposal and all the press and media, too. It still needs
>courageous volunteers to ram its message home. These unctuous surrogates
>seek to persuade us that,
In his series of pro-Gore flames [*], Brad wrote:
>If you think there's no difference between a Clinton-Gore EPA and a
>Bush-Cheny EPA you need to have your brain overhauled.
One nice thing about the US election being over (and I really, really wish
it were) is that we won't have to read or he
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>the biggest display of political incompetence I have
>seen this fall, save for the way that Al Gore has run his campaign...
>
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>CB: Do you think Gore should have stuck with the one what brought
>him to the dance, Clinton ?
No. I thin
>Brad,
> I'm going to repeat my comments to Michael
>Perelman earlier. I suspect that a Bush-Cheney
>EPA will not be all that much worse than a Gore-
>Lieberman one, although probably marginally so.
"Perhaps"? "Perhaps"?
And as I said, if you think the issues are important, then marginal
make.
Barkley Rosser
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From: Brad De Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 1:25 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:4088] Re: Nader 3? Blaming who?
>> >If you think there's no difference between a
>To demonstrate your immense weakness and inability to mobilize voters
>while at the same time working against your own substantive political
>positions is the biggest display of political incompetence I have
>seen this fall, save for the way that Al Gore has run his campaign...
Bollocks, Bra
G'day Ricardo,
You point out:
>...and there's no contradition stating that Nader had every right to
>stay 'till the end (and to have participated in the debates) and
>concluding, if only at the last minute, that since Nader's campaign
>was going nowhere, and since the Gore-Bush campaign was s
> Face it: your faction fucked up bigtime. You thought that you could
> demonstrate the mass voting power of the American left without
> swinging the election to the right-wing candidate.
...and there's no contradition stating that Nader had every right to
stay 'till the end (and to have pa
>Sorry, I don't think you want to listen (and this has been the larger
>problem all along) and I'd rather not continue in this tone. Signing off
>for now.
>
>PA
>
> >
>>Why not be an adult, recognize that there is a big difference between
> >a Clinton-Gore EPA and a Bush-Cheney EPA, and admit y
Sorry, I don't think you want to listen (and this has been the larger
problem all along) and I'd rather not continue in this tone. Signing off
for now.
PA
PS I am not a faction
>You shoot yourself in the foot and then look around for someone else to blame?
>
>Why not be an adult, recognize that
> >If you think there's no difference between a Clinton-Gore EPA and a
>>Bush-Cheny EPA you need to have your brain overhauled.
>
>Brad: Surely by now you have caught the point: people don't feel there is
>ENOUGH of a difference
If the issues are that important, then even small differences are
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