Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: David Neumark (really)

2000-09-01 Thread Doug Henwood
Max Sawicky wrote: >If DN made inferences about black/white marginal productivity from a >specification like this, I'm not sure I want him on my side. Yeah, but who cares about that? He's saying what the people who write grant checks want to hear. Doug

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: David Neumark (really)

2000-08-31 Thread Peter Dorman
Don't worry, I don't think he is... Max Sawicky wrote: > If DN made inferences about black/white marginal productivity from a > specification like this, I'm not sure I want him on my side. > > mbs > > > Q = f([white male labor input], [black male labor input], [white female > labor > > input], [

Re: Re: Re: Re: David Neumark (really)

2000-08-31 Thread Max Sawicky
If DN made inferences about black/white marginal productivity from a specification like this, I'm not sure I want him on my side. mbs > Q = f([white male labor input], [black male labor input], [white female labor > input], [black female labor input], [other labor input, I assume], capital input

Re: Re: Re: David Neumark (really)

2000-08-31 Thread Jim Devine
At 03:38 PM 8/31/00 -0700, you wrote: > > Honestly, if David Neumark has changed his views on the minimum wage, it > > really would be no big deal. He is ready to embrace any result produced by > > the right theory, the right data set, and the right methods, given what > > "right" means in this c

Re: Re: Re: David Neumark (really)

2000-08-31 Thread Peter Dorman
Q = f([white male labor input], [black male labor input], [white female labor input], [black female labor input], [other labor input, I assume], capital input) Assume Q = [input 1] ^B1 x [input 2] ^B2 x ... x [input n] ^Bn is the form for n inputs, and use translog methods to estimate the B's. E

Re: Re: David Neumark (really)

2000-08-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Peter Dorman wrote: > I should add a word about the real David Neumark, since I knew him slightly > at Michigan State. He is the #1 labor economist in the econ department > there, which means he is crucial to personnel decisions, research > applications, etc. in that field (at that school). H

Re: Re: David Neumark (really)

2000-08-31 Thread Doug Henwood
Peter Dorman wrote: >When I left he was just completing work on discrimination and productivity. >His "contribution" was to use "white male labor", "black female labor", etc. >as separate inputs into aggregate production function analysis, determine >the productivity ratios between the groups, an

Re: David Neumark (really)

2000-08-31 Thread Peter Dorman
I should add a word about the real David Neumark, since I knew him slightly at Michigan State. He is the #1 labor economist in the econ department there, which means he is crucial to personnel decisions, research applications, etc. in that field (at that school). He is fairly typical of "star" r

Re: Re: Re: Re: David Neumark

2000-08-31 Thread michael
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thursday, August 31, 2000 1:04 PM > Subject: [PEN-L:1021] Re: Re: David Neumark > > > >So it happens once every 150 years. I am disregarding the overly common > >experience of lefists who become conservative, mostly in line wit

Re: Re: Re: David Neumark

2000-08-31 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
I would note that Joan Robinson became more leftist over time. Barkley Rosser -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, August 31, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: [PEN-L:1021] Re: Re: David Neumark &g

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: David Neumark

2000-08-31 Thread JKSCHW
Butthe author on On Liberty hated the "bourgeois" mentality and culture of his day, which he found to be exceedingly oppressive. Mill was not a revolutionary socialist, quite unambiguously not. But he did think that if the progressof humankind continued, workers would cease to be willing to lab

Re: Re: Re: Re: David Neumark

2000-08-31 Thread michael
I think that Mill was not much of a lefty at all. I know Justin will disagree with me. You can find similar "leftish" sentiments on Marshall. Most of the British political economists, from Smith on, expressed a wish that the working class would become bourgeois -- with the appropriate mix of cu

Re: Re: Re: Re: David Neumark

2000-08-31 Thread michael
Fusfeld was always a leftie, long before the war. When he retired, he recommended me as his replacement. Michigan gave me a perfunctory interview in which they expressed extreme disinterest long before I entered the room. Gurley is a Quaker. His revulsion with the war was crucial. Paul Z. mig

Re: Re: Re: David Neumark

2000-08-31 Thread Jim Devine
At 07:45 AM 8/31/00 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >So it happens once every 150 years. I am disregarding the overly common >experience of lefists who become conservative, mostly in line with their >self-interest. Daniel Fusfeld, Leonard Rapping, Paul Zarembka, and John Gurley seem to be cases

Re: Re: Re: David Neumark

2000-08-31 Thread Jim Devine
At 10:25 AM 8/31/00 -0400, you wrote: >Mill also changed his mind about capitalism, and endede life as what we >would call a market socialist. --jks I'd say instead that John Stuart Mill became more of a New Deal liberal (reform capitalism to save it) type, long before such attitudes were poss

Re: Re: David Neumark

2000-08-31 Thread michael
So it happens once every 150 years. I am disregarding the overly common experience of lefists who become conservative, mostly in line with their self-interest. > > Michael Perelman > > > Is this really a case of an economist learning and changing his mind? > > If so, it would be a remarkable e

Re: Re: David Neumark

2000-08-31 Thread JKSCHW
Mill also changed his mind about capitalism, and endede life as what we would call a market socialist. --jks In a message dated Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:20:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Timework Web <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: << Michael Perelman > Is this really a case of an economist learning and

Re: David Neumark

2000-08-31 Thread Timework Web
Michael Perelman > Is this really a case of an economist learning and changing his mind? > If so, it would be a remarkable event. Remarkable but not the first time it's happened. J.S. Mill changed his mind about the wages-fund doctrine. Temps Walker Sandwichman and Deconsultant