Re: Re: Re: IMF/Dependency theory debate in Latin America

2001-06-07 Thread Michael Pugliese
> Did you? Why don't you tell my employer that I post during working hours. > That's a good way to shut me up. Years ago when you and I were on good terms, I asked, in a friendly fashion how you were able to be so prolific. You explained that nature of your responsibilities at Columbia. Good eno

Re: Re: Re: IMF/Dependency theory debate in Latin America

2001-06-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Michael Perelman wrote: >In what way is Petras ultraleft? In 1990 Daniel Ortega ran unsuccessfully against Violeta Chamorro under conditions of total isolation internationally. The USA had just cut a deal with the USSR to dump Nicaragua. The country had been devastated by over 5 years of contra w

Re: Re: Re: Re: IMF

2001-05-19 Thread Brad DeLong
> >More importantly, I thought the whole point of the criticisms of the IMF was >precisely this: that it has treated the financial crises of Mexico and Asia >like they were crises of excess demand and exogenous shock for the developed >world in the 70's. Why would the remedy for one be similar to

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMF

2001-05-19 Thread Brad DeLong
>Jim Devine wrote: > >> >> There's a big difference between _attacking an individual_ (ad hominem) and >> _attacking an argument_. The rules of Congress may encourage politeness, >> but that's a democracy of the few, of the elite and powerful. We need to >> put said "democracy" into context, w

Re: Re: Re: IMF

2001-05-19 Thread Christian Gregory
> > Back in the late 1970s I would have agreed with Keaney that the IMF's > advice to Britain was counterproductive. But the fact that Mitterand > and Carter both tried a "Keynesian" expansionary approach, and that > their policies crashed and burned, has to make you think again. In > retrospect,

Re: Re: Re: Re: IMF

2001-05-19 Thread Fred Guy
Jim Devine wrote: > > There's a big difference between _attacking an individual_ (ad hominem) and > _attacking an argument_. The rules of Congress may encourage politeness, > but that's a democracy of the few, of the elite and powerful. We need to > put said "democracy" into context, which is wh

Re: Re: Re: Re: IMF

2001-05-19 Thread Michael Pugliese
took the time to discuss many issues with all of us. - Original Message - From: "Carrol Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 7:07 AM Subject: [PEN-L:11801] Re: Re: Re: IMF > > > Fred Guy wrote: > > > >

Re: Re: Re: IMF

2001-05-19 Thread Jim Devine
At 12:37 PM 05/19/2001 +0100, you wrote: >I don't know that I'd bother following this list if Brad weren't on it. No-one has called for kicking him off, that I know of. I, for one, was asking him to be polite. >Not becuase I enjoy the fights, but because he offers an informed and >vigorous res

Re: Re: Re: IMF

2001-05-19 Thread Chris Burford
At 19/05/01 07:42 -0700, you wrote: >Back in the late 1970s I would have agreed with Keaney that the IMF's >advice to Britain was counterproductive. But the fact that Mitterand and >Carter both tried a "Keynesian" expansionary approach, and that their >policies crashed and burned, has to make

Re: Re: Re: IMF

2001-05-19 Thread Carrol Cox
Fred Guy wrote: > > ... knee-jerk statisim that otherwise dominates the > list. I call it statism rather than Marxism because I know of no other > forum where the policies of Juan Peron, the South Korean government and > state media monopolies (monopolies, not the Beeb) could all get such > sym

Re: Re: Re: IMF

2001-05-18 Thread Carrol Cox
Jim Devine wrote: > > )[re congress] Further, the scope of the debate is > severely limited, so that fundamental issues are hardly ever addressed > (while people are lambasted for using class struggle rhetoric if they make > obvious points about the regressivity of Bush's tax cuts). So the spee

Re: Re: Re: IMF

2001-05-18 Thread Doug Henwood
Apropos Brad's suggestion that legislative decorum might be a model for PEN-L, this is from the Paul Keating Insults Page . Many of these gems were uttered on the floor of the Australian parliament. Doug On former Labor Prime Minister, Bob Hawke: "No

Re: RE: Re: IMF

2001-05-17 Thread Brad DeLong
>Brad DeLongwrote: > >> The IMF loaned Callaghan a lot of money to use for exchange >> rate management and to stretch out what would otherwise have been a >> very sharp, short, nasty period of macroeconomic adjustment. > >As a matter of historical fact, the IMF didn't lend HMG any money at >al

Re: Re: Re: IMF, WORLD BANK CRY "UNCLE" ONMOZAMBICAN C

2001-02-01 Thread Brad DeLong
> > Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:53:26 -0800 >> From: Brad DeLong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> I always thought that successful industrial policies were built on >> *subsidizing* exports. I've yet to understand why the hell *taxing* >> Mozambique's exports is going to make anyone (ex

[PEN-L:11621] Re: Re: Re: Re: IMF to become autonomous?

1999-09-24 Thread Doug Henwood
Patrick Bond wrote: >No, I would say a dramatic debt cancellation with no strings >attached -- qualitatively different than the WB/IMF/Clinton HIPC >schemes (including the $1 bn announced yesterday) -- could be a >profound non-reformist reform, in the spirit of the first 'graf above. I always lo

[PEN-L:11569] Re: Re: Re: IMF to become autonomous?

1999-09-23 Thread Patrick Bond
On 22 Sep 99, at 8:36, Chris Burford wrote: > It is quite true that the reformatory strategies under consideration are in > themselves inadequate, partial and limited. Like all reforms they have a > dialectical dual aspect - they may help the onward process of change, or > they may restabilise the

[PEN-L:11409] Re: Re: Re: Re: IMF to become autonomous?

1999-09-21 Thread Doug Henwood
Patrick Bond wrote: >Agreed, Doug, that's exactly the point of this definition of what I >take to be a progressive *nationalism* (namely that the power to >regenerate national sovereignties will only be constituted to a >large extent through radical international and more precisely >anti-wor

[PEN-L:11375] Re: Re: Re: IMF to become autonomous?

1999-09-21 Thread Patrick Bond
Sorry, in a kind of preview of Y2k, most of South Africa was cut off from international emails and browsing from 16-20 September, allegedly due to the hurricane (so all our ISP claim). Here are three replies on the IMF-reform thread, which seem to be largely semantic at this stage... On 17 Sep

[PEN-L:11225] Re: RE: Re: IMF to become autonomous?

1999-09-17 Thread Carrol Cox
Max Sawicky wrote: > . . . > Question: do you think there can be progressive nationalism > for the U.S., and if so, what might it look like? I couldn't say exactly what it would be but I know what its enemies would call it: Isolationism. In fact that is what the WSJ always calls any fragment

[PEN-L:10979] Re: Re: Re: IMF to become autonomous?

1999-09-14 Thread Chris Burford
>Charles Brown wrote: > >>But doesn't the central committee of the dictatorship of the >>bourgeoisie sit above both the IMF and its member governments, >>really , anyway ? >>"Who" is the IMF ? Doug: >"The IMF is a toy of the United States to pursue its economic policy >offshore." - MIT econ

[PEN-L:10940] Re: Re: Re: IMF to become autonomous?

1999-09-14 Thread Chris Burford
At 11:04 14/09/99 +0530, you wrote: >Rod Hay wrote: > >> Globalisation is a fact that lefties have to deal with. It is futile to >> oppose it. Chris is pointing in the right direction but he is point at the >> wrong path. Capitalism may have some room for progressive action. There are >> still feu

[PEN-L:10941] Re: Re: Re: Re: IMF to become autonomous?

1999-09-14 Thread Chris Burford
At 22:31 13/09/99 +, Patrick Bond wrote: >> ... Brown, a declared advocate of the >> reform of international finances, on a key IMF committee. > >That lackey of the City? Keep him OUT of reforming, please, Chris! >Really, this is an elementary responsibility of UK comrades. That really is

[PEN-L:10926] Re: Re: Re: IMF to become autonomous?

1999-09-13 Thread Patrick Bond
> From: Chris Burford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... Some Marxists consider an analysis > of the balance of forces essential. Ok, so where is it? What, in all of the chatter about the up-and-coming global state, are you saying about Our Team's capacity to survive it, Chris? > ... Brown, a

[PEN-L:10942] Re: Re: Re: IMF to become autonomous?

1999-09-13 Thread Stephen E Philion
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Ajit Sinha wrote: > Rod Hay wrote: > > > Globalisation is a fact that lefties have to deal with. It is futile to > > oppose it. Chris is pointing in the right direction but he is point at the > > wrong path. Capitalism may have some room for progressive action. It is t

[PEN-L:10880] Re: Re: Re: IMF to become autonomous?

1999-09-12 Thread Jim Devine
Buford wrote: >>>The International Centre for Monetary and Banking Studies, Geneva, issued a >>>report yesterday calling for the IMF to be made independent of national >>>governments. This is a progressive demand, both in its political >>>significance and in its rationality in meeting the developi

[PEN-L:6029] Re: Re: RE: IMF and Yugoslavia, Rwanda

1999-04-27 Thread Michael Hoover
> Wasn't Laura Tyson's dissertation on Yugo? > Michael Perelman can't answer above, but she wrote a monograph on Yugoslavian economic performance in the 1970s and co-wrote one on 1980s performance...she also wrote a book for RAND in the mid-80s on economic adjustment in Eastern Europe...Michael

[PEN-L:5995] RE: Re: RE: IMF and Yugoslavia, Rwanda

1999-04-27 Thread Max Sawicky
> Wasn't Laura Tyson's dissertation on Yugo? I don't know about her dissertation, but one of her fields was comparative systems, and she published on Yugoslavia. > > Max Sawicky wrote: No I didn't. > > > We are interested in putting together a press release of > sources on the > > > role of th

[PEN-L:5994] Re: Re: RE: IMF and Yugoslavia, Rwanda

1999-04-27 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: >Wasn't Laura Tyson's dissertation on Yugo? > >Max Sawicky wrote: > >> > We are interested in putting together a press release of sources on the >> > role of the IMF in contributing to the break-up of Yugoslavia and the >> > exacerbation of ethnic tensions there. (and perh