>Brad, Paul's comment slipped by me. It does appear to be a bit out of
>line. I am surprised that you found people in the NSC that were
>depressed by Tudjman since the U.S. does so much to aid him in his
>ethnic cleansing.
>
>You are I suspect in a distinct minority here. I suspect that the
>ma
En relación a [PEN-L:2436] Re: Re: (Fwd) Re: Re: Re: Re: debati,
el 28 Sep 00, a las 12:21, Doug Henwood dijo:
> Brad DeLong wrote:
>
> >But it is clear to me who the true heirs of the Nazis are.
>
> The folks who recruited them for the CIA?
>
> Doug
>
No, the folks who waved "hellos" to th
Brad DeLong wrote:
>But it is clear to me who the true heirs of the Nazis are.
The folks who recruited them for the CIA?
Doug
At 08:04 PM 9/27/00 -0700, you wrote:
> I suspect that the
>majority of us here regard the leaders of Serbia, Croatia, the Bosnian
>Muslims, and KLA leadership as equivalent scumbags.
We might want to rank these in terms of scumbagginess, but that would miss
the point. When the old Tito Yugosl
Brad, Paul's comment slipped by me. It does appear to be a bit out of
line. I am surprised that you found people in the NSC that were
depressed by Tudjman since the U.S. does so much to aid him in his
ethnic cleansing.
You are I suspect in a distinct minority here. I suspect that the
majority
>
>I have tried to keep my temper and not respond to Brad's totally
>misleading and erroneous posts for several days -- or at least to
>respond only with the most mild and reproving response. But
>enough is enough. This is disgusting nonsense. He has posted
>so much racist nonsense in the last
t that true?
Eh!
Cheers, Ken Hanly
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> At 10:00 AM 9/25/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >>The subject of Yugoslavia is so contentious, that I suspect that
Well it is refreshing that JKSCHW is so forthright in admiting his ignorance
and so accurate in assessing the causes of it. Few on Pen-L are so humble.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
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> >I don't mi
I had written:
>>I think that who is and who is not a "demon" depends on one's political
>>perspective.
Brad writes:
>I think that who is and who is not a demon depends on who acts like a demon.
>
>We clearly disagree.
As with so many things, we agree and we disagree.
Objectively, some people
>Really? The National Security Council staff when I was in the
>government wished daily for his overthrow, with their wishes checked
>only by the (vain) hope that Tudjman and Milosevic could be made to
>cancel each other out, leaving the Bosnians free to stay alive and
>keep their homes...
>
>
>At 10:00 AM 9/25/00 -0700, you wrote:
>>>The subject of Yugoslavia is so contentious, that I suspect that we will not
>>>get very far here. Whatever Milosovic's economic
>>>achievements might be, I abhor the nationalism that he represented. The US
>>>has succeeded in demonizing M...
>>
>>Srebni
>I think that who is and who is not a "demon" depends on one's
>political perspective.
I think that who is and who is not a demon depends on who acts like a demon.
We clearly disagree.
Brad DeLong
>I don't mind if we demonize Milosevic, but I would like that
>demonization to be
>spread equitably. Tujman was equally evil, yet the U.S. embraced him.
Really? The National Security Council staff when I was in the
government wished daily for his overthrow, with their wishes checked
only by t
At 10:00 AM 9/25/00 -0700, you wrote:
>>The subject of Yugoslavia is so contentious, that I suspect that we will not
>>get very far here. Whatever Milosovic's economic
>>achievements might be, I abhor the nationalism that he represented. The US
>>has succeeded in demonizing M...
>
>Srebnitca?
>
I don't mind if we demonize Milosevic, but I would like that demonization to be
spread equitably. Tujman was equally evil, yet the U.S. embraced him. More
interesting is the demonization of our former friends, as soon as they refuse to
go along with the US line.
Brad De Long wrote:
>
> Srebnit
Calling someone an apologist is a way to calm things down. I have no
doubt that Milosovic is a thug, but I would also consider the Clinton-Bush
sanctions to be even more violent. Using such emotive language, as any
philosopher knows -- thuggish, apologist -- is sure to fan flames.
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