Re: eurocentrism

2000-04-13 Thread Charles Brown
>>> Rod Hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/13/00 10:08AM >>> Sam, thanks for the attempt to define eurocentrism. But in all the atlases that I have ever consulted, what is called the Middle East is in Asia, not Europe. ___ CB: Those atllases are probably made with a eurocentric conception. In

Re: Eurocentrism

2001-05-30 Thread Nemonemini
Having been scorched as a New Ager, I would inject a perspective nonetheless along those lines. Press the delete button, if you prefer. Thinking about Blaut's book I was reminded of the deep confusion over Eurocentric issues now engulging globalization, it would seem, with total incomprehension

Re: Re: eurocentrism

2000-04-13 Thread Louis Proyect
CB: Those atllases are probably made with a eurocentric conception. In terms of geographical mass, Europe is just Northwest Asia. No reason to make Europe a separate continent. --- Whenever A.G. Frank refers to Europe as a peninsula, I get a smile out of that. Louis Proyect (The Marxism mailin

Re: Re: Eurocentrism

2001-05-31 Thread Michael Pugliese
] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 8:51 PM Subject: [PEN-L:12459] Re: Eurocentrism Having been scorched as a New Ager, I would inject a perspective nonetheless along those lines. Press the delete button, if you prefer. Thinking about Blaut's book I was reminded of the deep confusion

Re: Eurocentrism once again

2001-05-25 Thread Michael Perelman
At the time that Lewis was writing, capital was not nearly as mobile, sometimes allowing workers to take advantage of local labor shortages. Now it is relatively easy to move the jobs to the labor surplus regions. Brad DeLong wrote: > >Max Sawicky wrote: > > > >>Seems to me Doug's question is wh

Re: Eurocentrism once again

2001-05-25 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
>>It is true that most of the TW are not part of this global >>economy. China is enough to subsidize the US with its low wage >>production >> >>Cheers, Anthony > >The implication is that China would be a richer place if it exported >less, and thus subsidized the U.S. less--that each containe

Re: Re: Re: Eurocentrism

2001-05-31 Thread Nemonemini
In a message dated 5/31/2001 9:16:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goldman, Marion S. Passionate journeys : why successful women joined a cult / Marion S. Goldman. Ann Arbor : University of Michigan Press, c1999 Thanks for the reference. But I have read more than my s

Re: Re: Re: Re: Eurocentrism

2001-05-31 Thread Stephen E Philion
Thorough waste of bandwith steve On Thu, 31 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 5/31/2001 9:16:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Goldman, Marion S. Passionate journeys : why successful women joined a cult > > / Marion S. Goldman. > > > > >

[PEN-L:12006] Re: Eurocentrism

1999-09-30 Thread James M. Blaut
Steve: Back when that debate was taking place, the late 70s and early 80s, there wasn't much of an inkling that colonial liberation movements, after winning state power, would -- in some cases -- fall back into a new sort of neocolony-cum-bourgeois society. So the attack by Brenner and the other

[PEN-L:11966] Re: Eurocentrism

1999-09-29 Thread Stephen E Philion
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, James M. Blaut wrote: > Doug: > > It isn't fair to faulty the critique of Eurocentrism by saying thaT it > doesn't correct other problems, like class issues in the European world. > > Thats like saying, when we get a cure for AIDS, "oh, thats not really > important because

[PEN-L:12120] Re: Eurocentrism

1999-10-01 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 02:25 PM 10/1/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote: > >Wojtek, I am trying to understand where you are coming from politically. >Your animus around these questions is found among right wing social >democrats, like Todd Gitlin and the Dissent Magazine crown. It is also >found in the right wing of the D

[PEN-L:12132] Re: Eurocentrism

1999-10-01 Thread Charles Brown
>>> Wojtek Sokolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/01/99 04:06PM >>> I ma not a groupie of any intellectual celebrity in this country - i have no interests in who's who (to the point that i flunk a class on new york intellectuals taught by a former partisan review hack) the sectarianism of the US left

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Eurocentrism

2001-06-01 Thread Nemonemini
In a message dated 5/31/2001 10:35:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thorough waste of bandwith steve I find that an arrogant response, old dodo.  Then please remember that you do not represent anyone's struggle for socialist freedom.  At least don't get in the way o

Re Eurocentrism and "Waste" of Bandwidth

2001-06-05 Thread Nemonemini
I don't like being cut off when protesting people getting unnecessarily killed, twice at that. Make sure it stops there and there isn't a third not a third.   I am no Buddhist, but I do have Buddhist friends. They used to be very peaceful people.  One of them read your post, and wondered where y

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Eurocentrism

2001-06-01 Thread Stephen E Philion
waste of bandwith On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 5/31/2001 10:35:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Thorough waste of bandwith > > steve > > > > I find that an arrogant response, old dodo. Then please remember that you do > no

[PEN-L:12000] Re: Eurocentrism and Malaysia

1999-09-29 Thread Michael Hoover
> Wallerstein and Frank's approach is greatly appreciated > by intellectuals who are trying to defend clowns masquarading in > nationalist costumes, like the great leader of Malaysia. Any criticisms > of their 'nationalism' is, conveniently, labelled "Eurocentric" (or > racist...), end of discuss

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Eurocentrism

2001-06-01 Thread Nemonemini
In a message dated 6/1/2001 7:12:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: waste of bandwith Give me a break man, you have to answer sooner or later to such issues, if not to me.    Also, let me be a clearer. Forget this Rajnesh, he's too confusing. I am sorry I mentioned it.  N

Michael, Re: Re Eurocentrism and "Waste" of Bandwidth

2001-06-05 Thread Stephen E Philion
michael, for crying out loud, is this kind of threatening necessary on this list? This has gotten wierd enough already for some kind of action, no? Steve Stephen Philion Lecturer/PhD Candidate Department of Sociology 2424 Maile Way Social Sciences Bldg. # 247 Honolulu, HI 96822 On Tue, 5 Jun 2

Re: Michael, Re: Re Eurocentrism and "Waste" of Bandwidth

2001-06-05 Thread Michael Perelman
John, I don't quite understand your note, but it does sound wierd. Here is the problem. I don't think that anybody has quite figured out what you are trying to say about Kant, Hegel and the like. Generally, as a rule on the list, when someone keeps posting something, and nobody seems terribly r

Re: Michael, Re: Re Eurocentrism and "Waste" of Bandwidth

2001-06-05 Thread Nemonemini
In a message dated 6/5/2001 4:32:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: michael, for crying out loud, is this kind of threatening necessary on this list? This has gotten wierd enough already for some kind of action, no? Threatening?  I fail to see how you got that from such a p

Re: Re: Michael, Re: Re Eurocentrism and "Waste" of Bandwidth

2001-06-05 Thread Nemonemini
In a message dated 6/5/2001 4:48:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, I don't quite understand your note, but it does sound wierd.  Here is the problem.  I don't think that anybody has quite figured out what you are trying to say about Kant, Hegel and the like. Generally

RE: Re: Michael, Re: Re Eurocentrism and "Waste" of Bandwidth

2001-06-05 Thread Max Sawicky
In re: the Zendo, better behind than before, say I. mbs John, I don't quite understand your note, but it does sound wierd. Here is the problem. I don't think that anybody has quite figured out what you are trying to say about Kant, Hegel and the like. . . . > > He fetl quite upset. He said

Re: RE: Re: Michael, Re: Re Eurocentrism and "Waste" of Bandwidth

2001-06-05 Thread Nemonemini
Let's keep this in perspecitve. Mr. Phillion finds me threatening (, Sen woodcutters?), my post was due to my finding him threatening. It's that simple. And it would be threatening in the end, to me, make no mistake, nothing against Mr. Phillion. It was a declaration that killing off Buddhis

[PEN-L:11419] Re: Eurocentrism run amok: LM's defense of slavery

1999-09-21 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
>WHY SHOULD SLAVERY DAMN MODERNITY? > >By Aidan Campbell > >A review of: > >--The Slave Trade: The History of the Atlantic Slave Trade 1440-1870 Hugh >Thomas, Picador, £25 hbk >--The making of New World Slavery: from the Baroque to the Modern 1492-1800 >Robin Blackburn, Verso, £15 hbk >--The Overt

RE: Re: RE: Re: Michael, Re: Re Eurocentrism and "Waste" of Bandwidth

2001-06-05 Thread Max Sawicky
"The world is full of evil and sorrow, because it is full of lust. Men go astray because they think that delusion is better than truth. Rather than truth they follow error, which is pleasant to look at in the beginning but in the end causes anxiety, tribulation, and misery." --The Gospel of Bu