Americans in a funk about their economy
>From LBO-talk
http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20080204/002271.html
>>> Doug Henwood sent an article on a poll:
Six in 10 See a Recession;
Stimulus Plan Draws Skepticism
Six in 10 Americans think the economy‘s already in a rec
Independent.co.uk
The world's rubbish dump: a garbage tip that stretches from Hawaii to Japan
By Kathy Marks, Asia-Pacific Correspondent, and Daniel Howden
Tuesday, 5 February 2008
The vast expanse of debris – in effect the world's largest rubbish dump
– is held in place by swirling underwater
From The Times Literary Supplement, January 30, 2008
Theories of cancer
How paradigms shift and culprits change in the fight against the
disease, and what concerned citizens can do about it
Sandra Steingraber
(Sandra Steingraber is the author of Living Downstream: An ecologist
looks at canc
C'mon everybody in the U.S. Go out and vote. For Obama, of course.
Then keep doing whatever you're doing to advance socialism in the
world.
On Feb 5, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Julio Huato wrote:
C'mon everybody in the U.S. Go out and vote. For Obama, of course.
I really, really, really hope you are joking... (no way I am voting
for Obama!)
--ravi
Greetings Economists,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:08 AM, ravi wrote:
I really, really, really hope you are joking... (no way I am voting
for Obama!)
Doyle;
Where to next for the U.S.? To give my context, DLC candidates Obama
and Clinton won't seriously challenge the status quo. What can the
left an
This is just silly. Obama is vacuous &, as Max suggests, probably to
the right of Hillary -- who may be the most grating politician in my
lifetime.
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901
michae
On Feb 5, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Julio Huato wrote:
C'mon everybody in the U.S. Go out and vote. For Obama, of course.
Then keep doing whatever you're doing to advance socialism in the
world.
I agree with Julio. A walk along Broadway on Sunday let me compare
the kids campaigning for Obama to th
Greetings Economists,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Shane Mage wrote:
Obama is a far better specimen, even for a Dumbo, than Dinkens. So I
won't be doing something unprecedented today!
Doyle;
His election validates moving left. That is a very limited move, but
one could suppose that global war
Isn't it a bit late to discuss who to vote for? (or bit early, if
"Super Dooper Tuesday" doesn't settle the issue?)
I already voted absentee (on Saturday). Since CA moved its
presidential primary so that it would actually have an effect, I
swallowed my price & intelligence and changed my registrat
That was a while back. I'm now convinced of the opposite;
BHO is likely to be more liberal than HRC.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Perelman, Michael wrote:
This is just silly. Obama is vacuous &, as Max suggests, probably to
the right of Hillary -- who may be the most grating politician i
On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Max B. Sawicky wrote:
That was a while back. I'm now convinced of the opposite;
BHO is likely to be more liberal than HRC.
Why? This is the most amazing case of mass wishful thinking I've ever
seen. At least a lot of people who voted for Kerry knew he sucked.
Dou
Greetings Economists,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Jim Devine wrote:
in any event, to have any president do anything decent or
"progressive," we need a mass movement to keep him or her honest.
Doyle;
How?
thanks,
Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Doug Henwood wrote:
This is the most amazing case of mass wishful thinking I've ever
seen.
Doyle;
The U.S. is moving left unlike Kerry's election. Who one votes for
seems to me the wrong place to ask questions. Nor do I think this is
about wi
Greens are on the ballot in Illinois this year. I'll go only to cast a
symbolic vote for the Green candidate for Congress in this district.
Anyone on this list is going to have as much influence on the electoral
income as would a sports fan sitting before the TV and rooting for a
team. Mere self-d
I live in a congressional district that is protected -- a trade off to
the Republicans for leaving an LA Democratic district alone. I
registered Republican a few years back so I could vote against the
incumbent twice per season. So my ballot gives me the Republican
choices as well as an opportunit
On Feb 5, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Jim Devine wrote:
that's the $64 billion question! What _is_ to be done?
https://www.naderexplore08.org/forms/volunteer/
from HARPER'S WEEKLY: >Mississippi lawmakers introduced a bill that
would make it illegal for restaurants in the state to serve obese
people, and an unidentified robber killed five women in a Chicago-area
branch of the plus-sized clothing store Lane Bryant. A camping-goods
website was selling a che
On Feb 5, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Jim Devine wrote:
Meanwhile, >British scientists announced that it would soon be
possible to convert female bone mar-row into viable sperm cells,
hastening the obsolescence of men.<
I'll have to bone up on this one.
Heading for the primary:
http://www.gribbenstockyards.com.au/images/PS3.jpg
Happy voting!
Julio Huato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: C'mon everybody in the U.S. Go out and
-
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Doyle Saylor wrote:
>There is a genuine move left happening.<
there is definitely a leftward shift in US politics, or rather, a
polarization. In fact, I think this year's election will go against
the standard left line that "the two main parties are Twaddle Dee and
Twaddle Dumb." Obama (or Clinton
me:
> > in any event, to have any president do anything decent or
> > "progressive," we need a mass movement to keep him or her honest.
Doyle:
> How?
that's the $64 billion question! What _is_ to be done?
--
Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
way and let people
Greetings Economists,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Jim Devine wrote:
that's the $64 billion question! What _is_ to be done?
Doyle;
If it an organizational question that cannot be answered I think. If
one sticks to economic forecasts I would say some broad things;
one - class divisions will h
where's the goat?
g.a.s. wrote:
> Heading for the primary:
>
> http://www.gribbenstockyards.com.au/images/PS3.jpg
>
> Happy voting!
--
Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
Obama (or Clinton) versus McCain (or Romney or
Huckabee) will be a bit like the 1964 LBJ/Goldwater election.
So the "peace" candidate will escalate the war?
Doug
My thoughts:
I hope to post some thoughts to my blog later today on the danger of
Obama, and here is an attempt at a summary: I think Obama is dangerous
(more dangerous) from the perspective of left goals. Hillary is a
centrist wonk who will if anything, at the end of 8 years, lead to a
r
In brief: a) the record of Clinton mendacity and betrayal of prior liberal-ish
commitments; b) HRC's fealty to dubious achievements of the first Clinton
administration (deficit reduction, free trade, etc.); c) on paper, BHO is more
liberal on trade and the deficit; d) unlike Prof Krugman, I don'
he doesn't come off as arrogant as his book does? BTW, he also
disparaged people who read newspapers.
also, it's a mistake to trash _all_ economists and he should know it.
After all, his book praises economists such as Shackle, Hayek, and (if
I remember correctly) Keynes.
On Feb 5, 2008 10:58 AM,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Marvin Gandall wrote:
the case of FDR and JFK
I recorded an interview with Noam Chomsky yesterday, to use on my
fundraising show on WBAI on Thursday. Noam did a nice bit on just how
dreadfully awful JFK was. To take one specific example, he made U.S.
policy in Latin
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 14:10:49 Doug Henwood wrote:
> Noam did a nice bit on just how
> dreadfully awful JFK was.
Did he by any chance also take a whack at that creepy
little rat *Bobby* Kennedy?
I remember talking to Chomsky once years ago and
the subject of Daniel Patrick Moynihan came up
No, Taleb wasn't particularly arrogant but certainly assured. And
he's conservative. But in his talk he condemned economists
universally. I think more focused on Wall Street economists, though
he didn't name names beyond one or two who appear on TV explaining a
particular day's events.
Gene Co
Greetings Economists,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Doug Henwood wrote:
All this
Kennedy aura around Obama is really creepy.
Doyle;
The Kennedys represent the left wing of the democrats. That is easy
to understand. John ushered in the sixties in most peoples mind.
That is all this is about.
On Feb 5, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Michael Smith wrote:
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 14:10:49 Doug Henwood wrote:
Noam did a nice bit on just how
dreadfully awful JFK was.
Did he by any chance also take a whack at that creepy
little rat *Bobby* Kennedy?
No, alas.
I remember talking to Chomsky on
Greetings Economists,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Charles Brown wrote:
CB: Don't you think McCain will win ?
Doyle;
:-)
I don't think that would be so bad. It would destroy Hillary and
Bill. It would stir up a lot of anti-racist sentiments. He is as
likely to lead the country over the clif
On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
But it seems
less likely that a DP Prez will invade Iran.
You think? It wouldn't surprise me at all if a Dem had to prove him-
or herself by doing just that. Esp Obama, who'd have to prove that
his middle name means nothing.
Doug
Doyle;
Where to next for the U.S.? To give my context, DLC candidates Obama
and Clinton won't seriously challenge the status quo. What can the
left anticipate?
Doyle
CB: Don't you think McCain will win ?
Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
>
> > Obama (or Clinton) versus McCain (or Romney or
> > Huckabee) will be a bit like the 1964 LBJ/Goldwater election.
>
> So the "peace" candidate will escalate the war?
Probably. The War is so unpopular that I don't see how
I don't see much to choose between Clinton or Obama. I think we all know
that what's said on the stump or outlined in policy statements should be
taken with a grain of salt. The differences between the two aren't
substantive ones and in the end, it is the institutional constraints
(Carville's "bon
Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Max B. Sawicky wrote:
>
> > That was a while back. I'm now convinced of the opposite;
> > BHO is likely to be more liberal than HRC.
>
> Why? This is the most amazing case of mass wishful thinking I've ever
> seen. At least a lot of people who v
me:
> > Obama (or Clinton) versus McCain (or Romney or
> > Huckabee) will be a bit like the 1964 LBJ/Goldwater election.
Doug:
> So the "peace" candidate will escalate the war?
it's quite possible. How best to end the war than to win it? Peace
through superior firepower. But done with compassion
I went along with a friend last night to hear Nassim Nicholas Taleb,
the author of the hot book THE BLACK SWAN. He's an appealing speaker
and smeared economists in most paragraphs of his talk, which I much
appreciated. He really sees economists as the lowest of the low.
In the Q & A he w
He's an a-hole. Barkley made some innocuous comment about his work and he went
ballistic, threatened to sue.
>I went along with a friend last night to hear Nassim Nicholas Taleb,
what kind of innocuous comments?
On Feb 5, 2008 11:47 AM, Max B. Sawicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> He's an a-hole. Barkley made some innocuous comment about his work and he
> went ballistic, threatened to sue.
>
>
>
> >I went along with a friend last night to hear Nassim Nicholas Taleb,
>
JFK
posted to www.marxmail.org on January 12, 2005
"We thank that whole generation for making America strong, for winning
WWII, winning the Cold War, and for the great gift of service which
brought America 50 years of peace and prosperity. My parents inspired me
to serve, and when I was a hig
I don't even remember. You'd have to ask him.
>what kind of innocuous comments?
>
>On Feb 5, 2008 11:47 AM, Max B. Sawicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> He's an a-hole. Barkley made some innocuous comment about his work and he
>> went ballistic, threatened to sue.
>>
>>
>>
>> >I went along wit
On Feb 5, 2008 10:01 AM, Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> that's the $64 billion question! What _is_ to be done?
>
You vote with your feet. And a vote for Mike Gravel, or Kucinich, (or
Paul in the rethuglican primary) giving him some clout in the
demoncratic party qualifies as a step in t
Kennedy? On the left?
WTF?
[January 28 2008] Travus T. Hipp Morning News & Commentary: I Am No
Longer Surprised By American Delusions... But The 'Reincarnation' Of
JFK As A Squeaky Clean Ethical Hero Of The Liberal Left? WTF?
http://www.archive.org/details/tth_080128
On Feb 5, 2008 11:22 AM,
I have to agree on that count. It's as if the only way people can think is in
terms of alternative myths. And by the way, rejecting Hillary is one way of
diminishing one particular legend, that of the progressive Clinton presidency.
>> > All this
>> > Kennedy aura around Obama is really creep
Greetings Economists,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Leigh Meyers wrote:
WTF?
Doyle;
Popular perceptions, not reality. What would most people say if asked
if T Kennedy was on the right or left of the democrats? Left.
So?
Doyle
On Feb 5, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:
Obama probably hasn't a clue that this is his drawing appeal, but his
campaign by its combination of emptiness of content with personal
charsima has appealed to it.
I agree he is unaware of the despair which motivates large segments of
his support
And giving a new meaning for the term "boner"?
On 2/5/08, Dan Scanlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Jim Devine wrote:
> >
> > Meanwhile, >British scientists announced that it would soon be
> > possible to convert female bone mar-row into viable sperm cells,
> > hastenin
Those "popular perceptions" need to die, not be reinforced or
re-hashed/cycled, or no matter who wins... the same old, same old.
Kennedy didn't make things better for ANYONE as you claimed earlier.
Unless that "anyone" was an 'economically upwardly aspiring
(narcissistic) ' U.S. citizen... An upw
Greetings Economists,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Max B. Sawicky wrote:
It's as if the only way people can think is in terms of alternative
myths.
Doyle;
Creepy huh? I look at your use of the state of feeling, revulsion, as
being mythic as well. Literally if you say on a very large scale
mi
On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:16 PM, Sandwichman wrote:
And giving a new meaning for the term "boner"?
Consider the old paradigm -- that woman came from Adam's rib. Now must
we admit that the creation myth may be coming full circle? Or is this
too marrow-minded? Or perhaps soft harded. Will the new m
Charles Brown wrote:
Don't you think McCain will win ?
I think he would be easy for either Obama or Clinton to beat. They
could simply report on his singing "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" (playing the
videotape) and describe his various positions totally accurately and
then say "Is this who we want to lead
On Feb 5, 2008 12:24 PM, Doyle Saylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings Economists,
> On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Max B. Sawicky wrote:
>
> > It's as if the only way people can think is in terms of alternative
> > myths.
>
> Doyle;
> Creepy huh? I look at your use of the state of feeling, re
Greetings Economists,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Leigh Meyers wrote:
Those "popular perceptions" need to die,
Doyle;
Sure. They would die over time as a left resurges in the U.S. They
are a flimsy tissue of lies that a mass movement would sweep away.
Like Jim Devine wrote earlier in this
me:
> > But it seems
> > less likely that a DP Prez will invade Iran.
Doug:
> You think? It wouldn't surprise me at all if a Dem had to prove him-
> or herself by doing just that. Esp Obama, who'd have to prove that
> his middle name means nothing.
Currently, I see a big split within the ruling c
> Both Hillary and Barach seem to lean
>toward the multilateralists (in terms of their foreign policy
>advisers, etc.) The multilateralists don't seem to want to bomb/attack Iran.
Funny he doesn't look Jewish.
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 15:36:44 Jim Devine wrote:
> The multilateralists don't seem to want to bomb/attack
> Iran.
But the Israel lobby does, and the Israel lobby has even more
clout with the Dems than it has with the Reeps.
A survey shows a large number of British citizens do not believe that
Winston Churchill, Florence Nightingale, or king Richard and other
historical figures really existed but DO believe in Robin Hood,
Sherlock Holmes, and the Knights of the Round Table.
http://www.archive.org/details/tth_080205
On Feb 5, 2008 10:58 AM, Eugene Coyle
> I went along with a friend last night to hear Nassim Nicholas Taleb,
> the author of the hot book THE BLACK SWAN. He's an appealing
speaker
> and smeared economists in most paragraphs of his talk, which I much
> appreciated. He really sees economists as the
http://leighm.net/sounds/archive/mp3/vfm.m3u
Because life's been good to him, so far
> On Tuesday 05 February 2008 15:36:44 Jim Devine wrote:
> > The multilateralists don't seem to want to bomb/attack
> > Iran.
Michael Smith wrote:
> But the Israel lobby does, and the Israel lobby has even more
> clout with the Dems than it has with the Reeps.
the way I read the weather suggest
On Feb 5, 2008, at 4:16 PM, Charles Brown wrote:
Didn't Chomsky read the critiques of Moynihan's benign neglect
thesis ?
Almost certainly. The guy reads practically everything.
>>> Michael Smith
Did he by any chance also take a whack at that creepy
little rat *Bobby* Kennedy?
I remember talking to Chomsky once years ago and
the subject of Daniel Patrick Moynihan came up (Moynihan
was, alas, still alive at the time, though that karmic anomaly
has since been corrected). C
>>> Carrol Cox
Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
>
> > Obama (or Clinton) versus McCain (or Romney or
> > Huckabee) will be a bit like the 1964 LBJ/Goldwater election.
>
> So the "peace" candidate will escalate the war?
Probably. The War is so unpopular that I
Charles Brown wrote:
>
> >>> Carrol Cox
> Doug Henwood wrote:
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
> >
> > > Obama (or Clinton) versus McCain (or Romney or
> > > Huckabee) will be a bit like the 1964 LBJ/Goldwater election.
> >
> > So the "peace" candidate will escalate the war?
>
>>> Jim Devine
Charles Brown wrote:
Don't you think McCain will win ?
I think he would be easy for either Obama or Clinton to beat. They
could simply report on his singing "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" (playing the
videotape) and describe his various positions totally accurately and
then say "Is this who
>>> "Max B. Sawicky"
> Both Hillary and Barach seem to lean
>toward the multilateralists (in terms of their foreign policy
>advisers, etc.) The multilateralists don't seem to want to bomb/attack
Iran.
Funny he doesn't look Jewish.
^
CB: Have you seen those Jewish Ethiopians ?
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 16:17:55 Jim Devine wrote:
> the way I read the weather suggests that Israel Lobby -- or rather the
> Israel Lobbies -- is a bit chastened when it comes to foreign policy
True, I think. There are straws in the wind that suggest to me that
some other elite elements are
>From my Iran news feed: http://leighm.net/nws/fds/iranfd.html
The operative phrase is "Deal With".
Israelis Want Next US President to Deal With Iran
By Julie Stahl
CNSNews.com Jerusalem Bureau Chief
February 05, 2008
Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) - From Israel's point of view, it is critical
that the
> ^
>
> CB: Isn't McCain going to win ? He's the war candidate.
I haven't the slightest idea who is going to win -- but McCain _is_
the
candidate most apt to pull out of Iraq. His warlike reputation
provides
cover for cutting and running.
Carrol
^^^
CB: Yes, I agree on ending the war.
>>> Doug Henwood
> Didn't Chomsky read the critiques of Moynihan's benign neglect
> thesis ?
Almost certainly. The guy reads practically everything.
^
CB: I was going to say that, but I try to edit out a lot of
smartalexness.
So, he should know that a job was done on Moynihan.
Greetings Economists,
On Feb 5, 2008, at 2:00 PM, Charles Brown wrote:
Of course, there's a small possibility otherwise, but the
Rep will probably win.
Doyle;
I think it unlikely. Still there are many months ahead. I am
inclined right now to see the demos winning by wide margins. That win
w
On Feb 5, 2008 2:00 PM, Charles Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ^
> >
> > CB: Isn't McCain going to win ? He's the war candidate.
>
> I haven't the slightest idea who is going to win -- but McCain _is_
> the
> candidate most apt to pull out of Iraq. His warlike reputation
> provides
> cove
On Feb 5, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Charles Brown wrote:
CB: I'm thinking the majority of Americans will still vote for a white
man over a woman or a Black person.
What do the polls on head to head Dem/Reps show ?
McCain beats both Hillary and Obama by 3-4 points, and importantly, he
crosses 50% whil
Charles Brown wrote:
>
>
> CB: I'm thinking the majority of Americans will still vote for a white
> man over a woman or a Black person.
I think this oversimplifies how _subjective_ racism works, and the form
that subjective racism has increasingly taken. The stereotypes have
changed, and while pla
On Feb 5, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Charles Brown wrote:
Nassim Nicholas Taleb,
the author of the hot book THE BLACK SWAN.
CB: In the book he disparages the mathematical concept of the bell
curve.
Really? Its elementary mathematical statistics. Does he also disparage
the Pythagorean Theorem?
On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:
I think this oversimplifies how _subjective_ racism works, and the
form
that subjective racism has increasingly taken. The stereotypes have
changed, and while placing integrated public housing in a mostly white
suburb might bring back the KKK, a b
>>> Carrol Cox
Charles Brown wrote:
>
>
> CB: I'm thinking the majority of Americans will still vote for a
white
> man over a woman or a Black person.
I think this oversimplifies how _subjective_ racism works, and the
form
that subjective racism has increasingly taken. The stereotypes have
changed
>>> ravi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/05/2008 5:01 PM >>>
On Feb 5, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Charles Brown wrote:
> CB: I'm thinking the majority of Americans will still vote for a
white
> man over a woman or a Black person.
>
> What do the polls on head to head Dem/Reps show ?
McCain beats both Hillary and O
And men who
sncerely try not to be sexist are obscurely angered by a woman who
crosses them vigjorously while they would more or less ignore the same
behavior in another man.
s/a woman/Yoshie/ ;-)
Apologies for the geek-speak,
--ravi
Don't be silly. I have the same kind of dust-ups w
On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:
...in the spirit of the sports fan before the tv set, I hope Clinton
wins.
Now, why doesn't that surprise me even a little bit?
Shane Mage
"Thunderbolt steers all things...it consents and does not consent to
be called Zeus."
Herakleitos of Eph
Ignore the Obituaries, U.S. Reign Will Endure
Kevin Hassett
Feb. 4 (Bloomberg) -- The negative employment report on Feb. 1 was
another sign
the U.S. economy is on the ropes. Increasingly, this downswing is being
portrayed as more than just a cyclical phenomenon. The U.S. used to be
the en
On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Louis Proyect wrote:
Don't be silly.
Why not?
I have the same kind of dust-ups with a character
named Walter Lippmann on Marxmail who has set himself up in
relationship to Cuba that Yoshie has to Iran.
Walter Lippmann?! And I am being silly?! ;-)
Re: Yoshie
On Feb 5, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Charles Brown wrote:
Ignore the Obituaries, U.S. Reign Will Endure
Kevin Hassett
This is not good news for fans of U.S. reign: Hassett was the co-
author of that 1999 smash hit, Dow 36,000.
Doug
On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:59 PM, Charles Brown wrote:
ravi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/05/2008 5:01 PM >>>
On Feb 5, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Charles Brown wrote:
CB: I'm thinking the majority of Americans will still vote for a
white
man over a woman or a Black person.
What do the polls on head to head Dem/R
> > CB: In the book he disparages the mathematical concept of the bell
> > curve.
>
>
> Really? Its elementary mathematical statistics. Does he also disparage
> the Pythagorean Theorem?
Taleb isn't against the bell curve as much as the assumption that it's
an accurate description of randomness i
this is right on target.
On Jan 28, 2008 6:49 AM, Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.zcommunications.org/zvideo/2484
>
--
Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
On Feb 5, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
Taleb isn't against the bell curve as much as the assumption that it's
an accurate description of randomness in reality. He emphasizes the
role of "outliers," which he sees as normal but totally unpredictable.
(and as having big effects, such as tank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5AKnLeDmMw
Please pass this on.
the impact of the fall of LTCM would have been bigger if the Fed
hadn't organized a bail-out.
On Feb 5, 2008 5:11 PM, Shane Mage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
> >
> > Taleb isn't against the bell curve as much as the assumption that it's
> > an accurate
Carrol is right. Individually, in isolation, the decision to vote or
not vote (and for whom) makes an infinitesimally small difference.
Negligible. If you rule out the improbable event of an extremely,
tightly contested election, a few votes make no difference whatever.
So, the decision has to b
On Feb 5, 2008 5:39 PM, Julio Huato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Michael Perelman for president.
Now THERE'S an idea!! all it needs is more exclamation points!!
--
Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
Just a quick addendum to my argument that a broader social base of
support makes Obama less likely than Clinton to get in the way of the
social struggle for out of Iraq and universal health care:
The political stock of "progressives" (or whichever way you call that
mass of people, loosely connecte
If the choice were between me an Obama, I would donated thousands of
dollars to his campaign.
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"Perelman, Michael" wrote:
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> If the choice were between me an Obama, I would donated thousands of
> dollars to his campaign.
O come now. You could emulate Chomsky and have yourself arrested as a
war criminal.
Carrol
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On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
the impact of the fall of LTCM would have been bigger if the Fed
hadn't organized a bail-out.
That's what its there for, isn't it? Effects take place within systems.
Shane Mage
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