John Porter writes:
Aldo Calpini wrote:
this is a little tutorial about submitting patches
(should be added to a FAQ, or somewhere where it's handy
I think this deserves its own page somewhere on
dev.perl.org.
Seems like a good idea. I've added it to the queue. It'll end up on
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 08:44:20AM -0700, Stephen Rawls wrote:
The last two (well, the only two :) patches I sent
were counted as spam. Some of the points were becuase
Sorry about that! I'm trying to be better safe than sorry in
preventing spam from getting to the list.
Do the patches
Okay, I finally give. For purposes of liveness tracing and GC, we're
going to unify PMCs and strings/buffers. This means we trace through
strings and buffers if the flags are right, and we need to add a GC
link pointer to strings/buffers. It'll make things a bit larger,
which I don't like,
Hi all,
I'm new to Parrot and Perl6. I hope this is an ok way to submit a patch.
---
- Allow assemble.pl to read from STDIN
- Use the '-' symbol to indicate STDIN
- Made invocation failures/usages behave more correctly
- Minor refactorings in this code section
Index: assemble.pl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?Latin1?Q?Josef_h=F6=F6k?=) writes:
As im not that familiar with spamassasin maybe someone could help me
stop getting my mail tagged as spam when mailing patches..
Let [EMAIL PROTECTED] know about such thing and we'll take care of
it. Most likely it has been fixed by
--- Melvin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can do this now:
../assemble.pl a.pasm | parrot -
*slaps head* Do'h. Thanks for the information, sorry
I missed it.
Stephen Rawls
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:44:00PM -0700, Robert Spier wrote:
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 08:44:20AM -0700, Stephen Rawls wrote:
The last two (well, the only two :) patches I sent
were counted as spam. Some of the points were becuase
Sorry about that! I'm trying to be better safe than sorry
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This fixes [perl #15865] and [perl #15870]. I never saw this in p6i
(eaten
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This also never seemed to show up in p6i.
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Stephen Rawls wrote:
since I want the Tuple pmc to do the same thing in
this respect as the PerlArray pmc.
just my opinion, but I don't want this. it would be
PerlTuple then. let's keep this stuff at a higher level.
the only and one reason I see because one would implement
tuples instead of
Mr. Nobody wrote:
The windows 9x command.com shell dosen't recognize
21 so it ends up passing 2 as an argument to the
compiler, which fails because there's no such file.
this is no news. you can't even build Perl on 9x.
IMHO, *build* platform targets should not include 9x.
build it on
--- Aldo Calpini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there should also be no need to check for
syntactic sugar like negative indices.
True, I suppose if a language REALLY wanted this, it
could be implemented on the interpreter level.
changing subject
Also of note, instead of having TUPLE1 + TUPLE2 act
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More Revisions of jit.doc as well as some more overview comments on the SPARC
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 04:50:25PM +0200, Aldo Calpini wrote:
Mr. Nobody wrote:
The windows 9x command.com shell dosen't recognize
21 so it ends up passing 2 as an argument to the
compiler, which fails because there's no such file.
this is no news. you can't even build Perl on 9x.
Stephen Rawls wrote:
Also of note, instead of having TUPLE1 + TUPLE2 act as
arrays, and return the sum of their sizes, I am
treating it like this: (a1, a2, ... , an) + (b1, b2,
... , bn) = (a1 + b1, a2 + b2, ... , an + bn)
makes sense to me (and certainly adds some spice to
the cause of
--- Aldo Calpini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you should also consider the case TUPLE1 + 5 which
should return (a1 + 5, a2 + 5, ... , an + 5).
Agreed. I had started to implement this already, but
I've only done the add function so far, since I'm
still testing and waiting for a consensus.
what
take this little assembler program:
new P1, .PerlArray
set P1, 100
bsr GETLEN
set I0, P1[0]
print P1[0]=
print I0
print \n
bsr GETLEN
set I0, P1[1]
print P1[1]=
print I0
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:22:56PM -0400, Melvin Smith wrote:
At 06:25 PM 7/31/2002 +0200, Jerome Vouillon wrote:
Closures
A subroutine must have access to the scratchpads of all the
englobing blocks. As the scratchpads are linked, it is sufficient
to add a pointer to the
pdcawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bugger, I used Lquestionnaire|... and pod2text broke it.
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg10797.html
perlpodspec sez you can't use L...|... with a URL, and I'm guessing that
I just didn't look at that case when writing the parsing code in pod2text
because of that.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:40:39AM -0600, Jonathan Sillito wrote:
So here is my take on a slightly simpler example:
sub foo {
my $x = 13;
return sub { print $x\n; };
}
$foo()
Melvin, I think it would really help if you could explain us how you
would compile this code.
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Pjuh after 2 month of work i'm finally finished with a first release.
This patch
Jerome Vouillon writes:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:22:56PM -0400, Melvin Smith wrote:
At 06:25 PM 7/31/2002 +0200, Jerome Vouillon wrote:
Closures
A subroutine must have access to the scratchpads of all the
englobing blocks. As the scratchpads are linked, it is sufficient
to add a
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The command.com shell in windows 9x dosen't recognize
21 so it messes up Configure
On 31 Jul 2002, Jonathan Sillito wrote:
invoke# assumes sub is in P0
# on invoke the sub pmc fixes the current
# context to have the correct lexicals
Can you elaborate on this? What is done precisely to fix the current
context?
This also is
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Jerome Vouillon wrote:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 11:22:56PM -0400, Melvin Smith wrote:
We chose to implement
the access as ops, and you prefer using a PMC Array directly. I can
at least see one advantage to the explicit ops: they don't require
a register to use them in
At 2:41 AM -0700 8/1/02, Brian Ingerson wrote:
Hi all,
I'm new to Parrot and Perl6. I hope this is an ok way to submit a patch.
---
- Allow assemble.pl to read from STDIN
- Use the '-' symbol to indicate STDIN
- Made invocation failures/usages behave more correctly
- Minor refactorings in this
A bit of Parrot bloggage where I didn't expect it
http://lambda.weblogs.com/discuss/msgReader$3850
including evidence that the Python folks are not completely dormant:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/python/python/nondist/sandbox/parrot/
/s
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Sean O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
A bit of Parrot bloggage where I didn't expect it
http://lambda.weblogs.com/discuss/msgReader$3850
I especially liked this part:
There is a tutorial at the main site and an O'Reilly book available.
The book, of
At 11:22 PM -0400 7/31/02, Melvin Smith wrote:
Conclusion
It seems to me that to implement lexical variables, we only need to
implement the set_pmc method and to extend the Sub class so that it
contains both a code pointer and a scratchpad.
I agree with you. It can be done without
At 12:19 PM + 8/1/02, Jarkko Hietaniemi (via RT) wrote:
This fixes [perl #15865] and [perl #15870]. I never saw this in p6i
(eaten by hungry spamfilters?), and the RT does not like me for some
reason so I can't see whether it got filed under #15865.
Applied, thanks.
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Looks good to me. Couple of quick things, when I applied the patch
locally, it indented the end bracket of the invoke op in core.ops which
breaks ops2c.pl. Also the patch removed the yield op from core.ops, was
this intentional? More comments below.
On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 22:07, Sean O'Rourke
Sean O'Rourke wrote:
A bit of Parrot bloggage where I didn't expect it
http://lambda.weblogs.com/discuss/msgReader$3850
This includes a link to:
http://www.oreilly.com/parrot//
Which appears to be a leftover from the April Fool's joke. Except the
article doesn't seem to realize it's a
Will Coleda wrote:
Sean O'Rourke wrote:
A bit of Parrot bloggage where I didn't expect it
http://lambda.weblogs.com/discuss/msgReader$3850
This includes a link to:
http://www.oreilly.com/parrot//
Which appears to be a leftover from the April Fool's joke. Except the
article
On 1 Aug 2002, Jonathan Sillito wrote:
Looks good to me. Couple of quick things, when I applied the patch
locally, it indented the end bracket of the invoke op in core.ops which
breaks ops2c.pl.
That's a bug.
Also the patch removed the yield op from core.ops, was this
intentional? More
At 12:20 PM + 8/1/02, Jarkko Hietaniemi (via RT) wrote:
IRIX found another return missing from a non-void function.
Thanks, applied.
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At 6:46 AM -0700 8/1/02, Stephen Rawls wrote:
In working on the Tuple pmc (almost done!) I've come
accross a small semantic problem. I suppose this
might be language level (and thus Larry's turf?), but
how should the VM handle negative indecis?
It should pass them on to the PMC directly, which
At 3:05 PM + 8/1/02, Jason Gloudon (via RT) wrote:
More Revisions of jit.doc as well as some more overview comments on the SPARC
jit approach. Also included is a change to the way interpreter functions are
invoked on x86. This uses the fact that the interpreter argument remains
unchanged on
At 5:28 PM +0200 8/1/02, Aldo Calpini wrote:
fetching an element out of bound changes the
length of the array. but should this really happen?
why does perlarray.pmc act like this:
Because that's the way Perl's arrays work. Joys of autovivification.
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At 12:34 PM -0700 8/1/02, Sean O'Rourke wrote:
On 1 Aug 2002, Jonathan Sillito wrote:
sub it is dealing with. While I am thinking about it, would it make
sense to distinguish between a sub and a closure? A sub would be a
little more efficient in cases where a closure is not needed.
Duh. Here's a unified diff.
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Index: docs/jit.pod
===
RCS file: /cvs/public/parrot/docs/jit.pod,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -r1.4 jit.pod
--- docs/jit.pod29 Jul 2002 21:13:38 - 1.4
+++ docs/jit.pod
At 5:05 PM + 8/1/02, Mr. Nobody (via RT) wrote:
The command.com shell in windows 9x dosen't recognize
21 so it messes up Configure when it starts checking
pointer alignment, this patch fixes it on windows 9x
but it dosen't take out the stderr redirection on
shells that support it.
This got
At 3:48 PM -0400 8/1/02, Jason Gloudon wrote:
Duh. Here's a unified diff.
Thanks, it's in.
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On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 03:42:19PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 5:28 PM +0200 8/1/02, Aldo Calpini wrote:
fetching an element out of bound changes the
length of the array. but should this really happen?
why does perlarray.pmc act like this:
Because that's the way Perl's arrays work. Joys
At 9:04 PM +0100 8/1/02, Graham Barr wrote:
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 03:42:19PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 5:28 PM +0200 8/1/02, Aldo Calpini wrote:
fetching an element out of bound changes the
length of the array. but should this really happen?
why does perlarray.pmc act like this:
At 7:59 PM + 8/1/02, Leopold Toetsch (via RT) wrote:
So patch seems ok, but propably needs more tests in t/pmc.
Applied. Could you come up with some tests?
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It should pass them on to the PMC directly, which
should then handle them properly.
Let me rephrase. How should the PerlArray pmc handle
negative indecis when the absolute value of the index
is greater than the size of the array. Here are some
examples:
#first set up an array
new P0, .Perl
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Stephen Rawls wrote:
It should pass them on to the PMC directly, which
should then handle them properly.
Let me rephrase. How should the PerlArray pmc handle
negative indecis when the absolute value of the index
is greater than the size of the array.
IMHO it would
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 03:05:11PM +, Jason Gloudon wrote:
More Revisions of jit.doc as well as some more overview comments on the SPARC
jit approach. Also included is a change to the way interpreter functions are
invoked on x86. This uses the fact that the interpreter argument remains
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:11:27PM -0700, Stephen Rawls wrote:
It should pass them on to the PMC directly, which
should then handle them properly.
So, if ix -SELF-cache.int_val then the code tries
to use a negative value to access the array element in
the C code. This is obviously
--- Sean O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me rephrase. How should the PerlArray pmc
handle negative indecis when the absolute value of
the index is greater than the size of the array.
IMHO it would be most consistent with the way
autovivification of positive indices works to
At 2:32 PM -0700 8/1/02, Stephen Rawls wrote:
--- Sean O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me rephrase. How should the PerlArray pmc
handle negative indecis when the absolute value of
the index is greater than the size of the array.
IMHO it would be most consistent with the way
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Dan Sugalski wrote:
No, I don't think this is appropriate. The PerlArray class implements
Perl arrays, and should implement their semantics.
It implements Perl 6 arrays, though. If it's a useful semantic extension
(restrictions are another matter), I don't see why perl 5
At 10:24 PM +0100 8/1/02, Graham Barr wrote:
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:11:27PM -0700, Stephen Rawls wrote:
It should pass them on to the PMC directly, which
should then handle them properly.
So, if ix -SELF-cache.int_val then the code tries
to use a negative value to access the
At 9:42 PM +0100 8/1/02, Nicholas Clark wrote:
Am I allowed to write ancillary functions I want the JIT to call in
assembler? I presume that the JIT needs to go fast, and I suspect that there
are some bits that are easier to write in assembler (eg rotates for figuring
out constants) than in C,
At 2:54 PM -0700 8/1/02, Sean O'Rourke wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Dan Sugalski wrote:
No, I don't think this is appropriate. The PerlArray class implements
Perl arrays, and should implement their semantics.
It implements Perl 6 arrays, though. If it's a useful semantic extension
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 05:42:12PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 10:24 PM +0100 8/1/02, Graham Barr wrote:
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:11:27PM -0700, Stephen Rawls wrote:
It should pass them on to the PMC directly, which
should then handle them properly.
So, if ix
This is a small collection of ideas for the Perl6 language. Think of this
posting as a light and refreshing summer fruit salad, composed of three
ideas to while away the time during this August lull in perl6-language.
Give split an
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 06:02:14PM -0400, Miko O'Sullivan wrote:
It would be really groovy if that expression could be split with the
delimiters in place, something like this:
tokens = split _/[?=*-+]/, $sql, keep='all';
and get back an array with these values: ('rank', '=', '?')
MO == Miko O'Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MO Give split an option to keep the delimiters in the returned array
perl5 can already do that. just wrap the delim part in parens and split
will return them. also by using a lookahead/behind as the regex split
won't strip out that text and it
Miko O'Sullivan suggested:
Give split an option to keep the delimiters in the returned array
As Dave mentioned, this already happens if you capture within the
split pattern.
Set preferred boolean string for scope
It's possible
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 06:02:14PM -0400, Miko O'Sullivan wrote:
This is a small collection of ideas for the Perl6 language. Think of this
posting as a light and refreshing summer fruit salad, composed of three
ideas to while away the time during this August lull in perl6-language.
From: Dave Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But perl5 already does this:
Dave gets the First to Point Out the Feature Exists award. I knew that
out of three ideas I'd be lucky if just one of them was actually a new
feature idea.
I might still say that the parens don't make things quite obvious...
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 08:30:05AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
@arr[@arr.length] = $var;
or maybe just :
@arr[.length] = $var;
(if an array were to be made the topic inside its own accessor brackets).
I know this idea was just thrown in there, but I find that I really
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 04:05 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote:
Having the subscript operator change the topic is, IMHO, a rather strong
violation of the principle of least surprise.
I'm inclined to agree. I think I'd much rather not have it change there,
since I'll frequently do stuff like
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 06:17:11PM -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
do these instead:
$bool += 0 ;
($x == $y) + 0
or even
$x == $y || 0
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Never do today what you can put off till tomorrow.
Miko O'Sullivan aksed:
what would true (the string) be converted to?
In a numeric context: 0 (as in Perl 5).
Here's my point more
explicitly: in a boolean context, there's no need to get any specific string
(0, 1, yup) as long as it correctly expresses true or false. It's when
you
Having the subscript operator change the topic is, IMHO, a rather strong
violation of the principle of least surprise.
I'm inclined to agree. I think I'd much rather not have it change there,
since I'll frequently do stuff like this:
my %hash;
for qw(one two three) {
%hash{$_} =
I'm wondering if Perl6's new regex can be applied to non-string things. I
seem to recall A5 mentioning something about strings tied to array
implementations; but I'm wanting something a little more powerful.
A bit of context: I use Perl for verification of big complex ASICs. We run a
simulation
I can't off-hand see tests that would try to read in and execute
bytecode written all possible combinations of wordsize/byteorder?
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote:
Here goes. This *isn't* functional - it's the least amount of work I could
get away with (before midnight) that gets the inner loop of mops.pasm JITted.
Applied, many many thanks.
including this judicious bit of cheating:
because I need if_i_ic
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 01:21:30PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 10:34 PM -0300 7/29/02, Daniel Grunblatt wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote:
As you can see from the patch all it does is implement the end
and noop ops.
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