On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 09:45:31PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
Here's an example of why I'm not real excited about CPANTS:
http://community.livejournal.com/perl/120747.html
You mean the fact that there's a perl community on LJ? :-)
dha
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David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
James Peregrino [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You folks took me too literally :) I meant: Given a system without
pugs/parrot/haskell (I assume perl5 is required), what are the
things you need to install
I just translated my german Pugs First Blood notes about how to
compile Pugs.
Try one
I haven't looked at what's going on in CPANTS for a while but Andy's post
made me have a look and oh dear. There's a problem. CPANTS is not a game.
If you make it a game, the system does not work.
Let's review.
CPANTS is not a measure of module quality since module quality is not well
defined
Gabor Szabo wrote:
On Ubuntu it was quite straigt forward, I think this is everything I
needed:
sudo apt-get install subversion
sudo apt-get install ghc6
Given that, in the above, you installed subversion and ghc6 for all
users ...
[snip]
# To compile Parrot
svn co
I was googling around, looking for the most suitable Perl Wiki for a
possible addition of a Perl 6 section, and happened across this site:
Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6).
Their posted policies, FAQ, and (http://perl.net.au/wiki/PerlNet:About),
seem to be very favorably
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 01:18:48 -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote:
I haven't looked at what's going on in CPANTS for a while but Andy's post
made me have a look and oh dear. There's a problem. CPANTS is not a game.
If you make it a game, the system does not work.
Likewise it should not test
Conrad Schneiker skribis 2006-05-23 0:42 (-0700):
Perl 6 Wiki: (http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_6).
That's a nice page, and Mediawiki is a nice wiki. But I'd really prefer
a wiki written in Perl 6, because it's about time we started to show
off. Serving important information with PHP is
Michael G Schwern writes:
There's a problem. CPANTS is not a game. If you make it a game, the
system does not work.
Hi there. I made a similarish point on this list about a year ago, to
which you replied:
http://groups.google.co.uk/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your reply included:
Finally, the
How do you get authors to actually look at the CPANTS information
and
make corrections? Well, we like competition. Make it a game!
So it was you -- or somebody impersonating you on this list -- who
managed to persuade me that actually Cpants being a game was a good
thing!
The key is
Andy Lester wrote:
How do you get authors to actually look at the CPANTS information and
make corrections? Well, we like competition. Make it a game!
So it was you -- or somebody impersonating you on this list -- who
managed to persuade me that actually Cpants being a game was a good
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 11:02:15PM -0500, John M. Dlugosz wrote:
Anyway, where is the configuration kept? I need to change the default
values of @*INC to be where my copy is really located.
You should be able to set the PERL6LIB environment variable to contain
a semi-colon (on win32)
On May 23, 2006, at 8:39 AM, David Golden wrote:
How does is_prereq improve quality?
Or, put differently, how does measuring something that an author
can't control create an incentive to improve?
is_prereq is usually a proxy metric for software maturity: if someone
thinks your module is
Am Samstag, 13. Mai 2006 05:36 schrieb Patrick R.Michaud (via RT):
I've run into the following problem using concat with
Match objects from PGE. The code below performs a match,
then attempts to concatenate a string with the results
of the returned Match object:
This is now fixed, I've
On Tue, 23 May 2006 09:35:27 -0500, Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 23, 2006, at 8:39 AM, David Golden wrote:
How does is_prereq improve quality?
Or, put differently, how does measuring something that an author
can't control create an incentive to improve?
is_prereq is
Chris Dolan wrote:
is_prereq is usually a proxy metric for software maturity: if someone
thinks your module is good enough that he would rather depend on it than
reinvent it, then it's probably a better-than-average module on CPAN.
is_prereq is usually a vote of confidence, so it is likely a
On May 23, 2006, at 10:34 AM, David Golden wrote:
Chris Dolan wrote:
... just checking for the presence of a t/pod_coverage.t file
(which is a weak proxy for POD quality, but dramatically easier to
measure).
It doesn't check for the existence of a t/pod_coverage.t file. It
checks that
On May 23, 2006, at 10:15 AM, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
is_prereq is usually a vote of confidence,
I respectfully disagree completely.
It's been more than once that I did *not* install a module because it
required a module that I did not trust, either because of (the
programming
style of) the
Please see forwarded note below.
(( Paul: Didn't see this show up in the archives, so I'm forwarding it on
your behalf. Looks like you have to be subscribed to post. Details for doing
that are in:
http://www.athenalab.com/Perl_6_Users_FAQ.htm
Also please look at a posted reply:
I for one, think a Perl6-users wiki would be extremely useful, I'm
just not sure why a site that distinguishes itself as a portal for
the Australian and New Zealand Perl community makes the most sense
(particularly to anyone trying to find the Perl6-users wiki from
outside this mailing list).
I realise its still very, very early days, but considering the growing
number of people who would enjoy just dabbling a little in perl6, it
seems unreasonable to expect that the average person would install
the many megabytes of beta (alpha?) software required, and keep it all
updated with the
That is an interesting idea but, as you say, fraught with security
problems. Maybe we can find a team of people to create binaries on a
regular basis for most of the major platforms? That would mitigate
the security concerns and allow people to run up-to-date stuff.
This is just a thought,
On 5/23/06, David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How does is_prereq improve quality?
Can we avoid getting side-tracked by individual indicators? Move it to
another thread, please.
updated with the latest releases. However, if someone had already done
that, why not let folks log in remotely via shell accounts and try out
the latest version on that computer?
I have played with server-side Perl 6 m-m-m about two years ago:
http://real.perl6.ru/. Wokrs well since April
On 5/23/06, Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you get authors to actually look at the CPANTS information
and
make corrections? Well, we like competition. Make it a game!
So it was you -- or somebody impersonating you on this list -- who
managed to persuade me that actually
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Trying to debug why imcc dumps core, I puzzled over why parrot wouldn't
accept
Thanks, applied.
Michael Mathews wrote:
I realise its still very, very early days, but considering the growing
number of people who would enjoy just dabbling a little in perl6, it
seems unreasonable to expect that the average person would install
the many megabytes of beta (alpha?) software required, and keep it
Um, yes anyone wanna work on a tryperl6 virtual shell?
--michael
onperl.og
On 23/05/06, Randy W. Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe something along the lines of http://tryruby.hobix.com/
Randy.
Author: chip
Date: Tue May 23 11:06:17 2006
New Revision: 12774
Modified:
trunk/docs/pdds/clip/pdd23_exceptions.pod
Log:
Half-done. The new opcodes and directives are certain,
and can be the basis of implementation work immediately.
Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/clip/pdd23_exceptions.pod
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 07:35, Chris Dolan wrote:
is_prereq is usually a proxy metric for software maturity: if someone
thinks your module is good enough that he would rather depend on it
than reinvent it, then it's probably a better-than-average module on
CPAN.
Contra: File::Find.
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Hi all,
I was converting a program that I wrote a while back from Perl5
to Perl6 and I got stuck on something really easy. In Perl5, when I
want to print something out, in this case an array with lines between
the columns, like this:
1|2|3
I would say something like:
print $array[0] . | .
On 5/23/06, Chris Yocum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1|2|3
I would say something like:
print $array[0] . | . $array[1] . | . $array[2] . \n;
not the best way but it works.
In Perl6 if say something like this:
print @array[0] ~ | ~ @array[1] ~ | ~ @array[2] . \n;
I get
1 2 3 | | |
My
Oops. That last . is a typo on my part. Sorry about that! It should
read, which it does in my code:
print @array[0] ~ | ~ @array[1] ~ | ~ @array[2] ~ \n;
However, your say join technique does not work. I will keep on it but
for now I am off to dinner!
Thanks!,
Chris
On 5/23/06, Gabor
Chris,
Strange. I have just tried this using an old version (6.2.3) of Pugs:
my (@array) = 1,2,3;
print @array[0] ~ | ~ @array[1] ~ | ~ @array[2] ~ \n;
It prints
1|2|3
on my terminal.
Gabor's join-ed version also works.
- Fagzal
Oops. That last . is a typo on my part. Sorry about that!
Dear Fagyal,
Huh. Strange. I tried the code on its own without the rest of
the script and it did just fine as well. There must be something
wrong in my script somewhere.
Chris
On 5/23/06, Fagyal Csongor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris,
Strange. I have just tried this using an old
This seems to work for me:
pugs -e 'say (1,2,3).join(|)'
1|2|3
Or even:
pugs -e '(1,2,3).join(|).say'
1|2|3
Cheers,
Ovid
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follow up questions to the list.
Web Programming with Perl --
Huh. The script is not too long so I will post it here for people to
see since I cannot see anything wrong with it. It is just
embarrassing to give out bad code.
All it does is solves a bucket problem, which I have been working on
for something else.
Dear Mr. Bach,
You were indeed correct so I wrapped the %hash like this
@{%hash} like you would to de-refrence an array and it worked
perfectly. It was indeed just me.
Thanks to everyone that responded!
Chris
On 5/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, I just saw some
Hi!
I missed most of this discussion due to work and a very important
shopping trip to IKEA (well, maybe not that important, but I'll let you
argue this out with my girlfriend...)
I'm also a bit exhausted now, so here are just some semi-random comments
on this thread:
- I think the biggest
Author: larry
Date: Tue May 23 12:54:49 2006
New Revision: 9306
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S02.pod
Log:
Ambiguity noted by spinclad++.
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S02.pod
==
--- doc/trunk/design/syn/S02.pod
Hello,
feel free to use
http://wiki.kn.vutbr.cz/mj/index.cgi?Perl%206%20and%20Parrot%20links
.
G'day Conrad and P6ers,
My apology for this being a very brief note. I'm on an interstate training
assignment until the end of the week, and I'm scrounging net access where I can.
Conrad Schneiker wrote:
[snip]
Their posted policies, FAQ, and (http://perl.net.au/wiki/PerlNet:About),
seem to
On Sun, 21 May 2006, James Peregrino wrote:
You folks took me too literally :) I meant: Given a system without
pugs/parrot/haskell (I assume perl5 is required), what are the things you
need to install so that you can say
perl6 -e say 'hello world'
i.e.
tar xf ghc.tar.gz
./configure
Chris Yocum schreef:
print @array[0] ~ | ~ @array[1] ~ | ~ @array[2] . \n;
First the Perl6-equivalent of
$ = '|' ;
and then
say @array ;
--
Affijn, Ruud
Gewoon is een tijger.
Hi Chris,
I hope you don't mind. With the idea of getting back into Perl6, I've taken
the liberty of rewriting your code to clean it up a bit (somewhat
successfully), and make it more perl6ish (somewhat unsuccessfully). The only
significant issue I have with my version is the terribly nested
Er, and the first loop is better written as this:
for %buckets.values - my $arg_for {
for 0 .. $arg_for{'count'} - $index {
$arg_for{'array'}.push($index * $arg_for{'scale'});
}
}
Instead of:
for %buckets.kv - my $bucket, $arg_for {
for 0 .. $arg_for{'count'}
- Original Message
From: Larry Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You should not need my on the right side of a -. Also, you should
be able to write $arg_forcount for constant subscripts.
Thanks! The revised script is below for those who are interested.
Cheers,
Ovid
-
my %buckets = (
David Golden wrote:
How does is_prereq improve quality?
I've mostly ignored CPANTS, in large part because I refuse to include
t/pod.t and t/pod_coverage.t in my distributions because they don't pick
up the format in which some of my best documentation is written. And
refusing to
FYI, another mirror is set up at http://lenin.net/~emile/www.unobe.com/packages/
David
On May 23, 2006, at 9:24 PM, James E Keenan wrote:
I've mostly ignored CPANTS, in large part because I refuse to
include t/pod.t and t/pod_coverage.t in my distributions because
they don't pick up the format in which some of my best
documentation is written. And refusing to include those
I've got a partial solution to the pending question of namespace vs. class.
Specifically, I've realized that Parrot already had most of a simple
solution to populating a class's methods even if the class has no public
namespace, what with the .const .Sub technique.
When I went to implement the
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