Re: Micro-articles on Perl 6 Operators

2007-09-18 Thread Agent Zhang
On 9/18/07, Adriano Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Join me. The drafts of the introduction and the first article are here: http://ferreira.nfshost.com/perl6/intro.html http://ferreira.nfshost.com/perl6/zip.html I see the following snippet in zip.html: # import num2en from Perl 6

[svn:parrot-pdd] r21338 - trunk/docs/pdds

2007-09-18 Thread paultcochrane
Author: paultcochrane Date: Tue Sep 18 00:59:04 2007 New Revision: 21338 Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd03_calling_conventions.pod Log: [pdd] Removed deprecated opcode syntax as recommended by Allison Randal. This resolves RT#45363 Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/pdd03_calling_conventions.pod

Re: Parrot configuration system: weaknesses and strengths

2007-09-18 Thread James E Keenan
On Sep 18, 2007, at 12:29 AM, Allison Randal wrote: For perspective, keep in mind that we will eventually be refactoring the Perl 5-based configure system anyway, to remove the dependency on an old install of Perl 5. So, the behavior of the current prototype configuration system is more

Re: Parrot configuration system: weaknesses and strengths

2007-09-18 Thread James E Keenan
On Sep 18, 2007, at 12:29 AM, Allison Randal wrote: I would like to have the option of making some configuration failures fatal. The lack of a working C compiler is a good example, but I imagine we will find others as we go along. I would also like the option of telling Configure to

Re: Micro-articles on Perl 6 Operators

2007-09-18 Thread Adriano Ferreira
On 9/18/07, Agent Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/18/07, Adriano Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Join me. The drafts of the introduction and the first article are here: http://ferreira.nfshost.com/perl6/intro.html http://ferreira.nfshost.com/perl6/zip.html I see the following

Re: Micro-articles on Perl 6 Operators

2007-09-18 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alberto Simões [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adriano Ferreira wrote: The plan is to write a series of blog entries discussing a Perl 6 operator at a time or a small group of closely related ones. I think the idea is cool. Also, I do not know how periodically

Re: Micro-articles on Perl 6 Operators

2007-09-18 Thread Adriano Ferreira
On 9/18/07, brian d foy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alberto Simões [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adriano Ferreira wrote: The plan is to write a series of blog entries discussing a Perl 6 operator at a time or a small group of closely related ones. I think the

please stop converting FUNCDOC headings to POD.

2007-09-18 Thread Andy Lester
On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -FUNCDOC: mark_special +=item Cmark_special This is a perfect example of why I want us to use FUNCDOC and not POD. Who says that we are presenting functions as =item lists? Why is it presented in C? =item Cmark_special applies two

Re: please stop converting FUNCDOC headings to POD.

2007-09-18 Thread Paul Cochrane
On 18/09/2007, Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -FUNCDOC: mark_special +=item Cmark_special This is a perfect example of why I want us to use FUNCDOC and not POD. Who says that we are presenting functions as =item lists? Why is

[perl #45401] PROPOSAL: Remove :postcomp flag

2007-09-18 Thread Will Coleda via RT
On Wed Sep 12 08:28:27 2007, kjs wrote: Hello, From: http://www.parrotcode.org/docs/pdd/pdd06_pasm.html The following flags are available: :main to indicate that execution should start at the specified subroutine; :immediate or :postcomp to indicate that the sub should be run immediately

[perl #45403] [PROPOSAL] Remove - syntax from IMCC

2007-09-18 Thread Will Coleda via RT
On Wed Sep 12 08:33:04 2007, kjs wrote: Hi, IMCC currently allows for C++ style method invocation (using a pointer as invocant). So, while this works: .sub main $P0 = new 'Foo' $P0.'bar'() .end You could also write: .sub main $P0 = new 'Foo' $P0-bar() .end Or

Re: [perl #45403] [PROPOSAL] Remove - syntax from IMCC

2007-09-18 Thread jerry gay
On 9/18/07, Will Coleda via RT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed Sep 12 08:33:04 2007, kjs wrote: Hi, IMCC currently allows for C++ style method invocation (using a pointer as invocant). So, while this works: .sub main $P0 = new 'Foo' $P0.'bar'() .end You could also

Re: [perl #45401] PROPOSAL: Remove :postcomp flag

2007-09-18 Thread jerry gay
On 9/18/07, Will Coleda via RT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed Sep 12 08:28:27 2007, kjs wrote: Hello, From: http://www.parrotcode.org/docs/pdd/pdd06_pasm.html The following flags are available: :main to indicate that execution should start at the specified subroutine; :immediate or

Re: [perl #45401] PROPOSAL: Remove :postcomp flag

2007-09-18 Thread Klaas-Jan Stol
attached is a testfile. file imm.pir contains: .sub main .end .sub foo :postcomp print postcomp\n .end .sub bar :immediate print immediate\n .end = and file main.pir contains: === .sub main2 :main load_bytecode imm.pir print ok\n .end

Re: please stop converting FUNCDOC headings to POD.

2007-09-18 Thread Allison Randal
Andy Lester wrote: On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -FUNCDOC: mark_special +=item Cmark_special This is a perfect example of why I want us to use FUNCDOC and not POD. Who says that we are presenting functions as =item lists? Why is it presented in C? =item

Re: please stop converting FUNCDOC headings to POD.

2007-09-18 Thread chromatic
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 12:38:49 Andy Lester wrote: We decided to remove FUNCDOC in May soon after it appeared. At the time it only appeared in a couple of files, so I was surprised to it now scattered over a couple of dozen files. Who is we? I was entirely unaware of it. I've

[perl #45507] Parrot Release October 2007

2007-09-18 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Jerry Gay # Please include the string: [perl #45507] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=45507 this ticket is a placeholder for the release scheduled for 16 October 2007

Gone for a while

2007-09-18 Thread Andy Lester
The FUNCDOC hoohah points out something that has been bugging me for a while and that now is actionable: I don't know WTF is going on any more. I'm very out of touch, even though I sometimes sort of try to keep an eye on what's going on. It's no way to be involved in a project. So, I'm backing

Re: please stop converting FUNCDOC headings to POD.

2007-09-18 Thread Allison Randal
Andy Lester wrote: We decided to remove FUNCDOC in May soon after it appeared. At the time it only appeared in a couple of files, so I was surprised to it now scattered over a couple of dozen files. Who is we? I was entirely unaware of it. I've yanked POD on every file that I've headerized,

Re: Gone for a while

2007-09-18 Thread Allison Randal
Andy Lester wrote: The FUNCDOC hoohah points out something that has been bugging me for a while and that now is actionable: I don't know WTF is going on any more. I'm very out of touch, even though I sometimes sort of try to keep an eye on what's going on. It's no way to be involved in a

Re: Parrot configuration system: weaknesses and strengths

2007-09-18 Thread Gabor Szabo
I am not sure what to quote so let me reply on a clean page. I would like to see invalid configuration options and values as being always fatal. They indicate some kind of user error, a typo or similar that would probably cause trouble to the Parrot developer as well as the Parrot user. In order

Parrot 0.4.16 Released

2007-09-18 Thread jerry gay
On behalf of the Parrot team, I'm proud to announce Parrot 0.4.16, A Farewell to Alex. Parrot (http://parrotcode.org/) is a virtual machine aimed at running all dynamic languages. Parrot 0.4.16 can be obtained via CPAN (soon), or follow the download instructions at

Re: Gone for a while

2007-09-18 Thread Andy Lester
I'm sorry to hear that. You're welcome back any time. All contributions are valuable, and isn't necessary to follow every detail of every aspect of the project to contribute. Understood. It's just clear that I'm way out the loop on things, and I don't have the time to talk about the things

[perl #45525] [TODO] Configure.pl: permit an --abort-step option

2007-09-18 Thread James Keenan via RT
See this non-RT thread on perl.perl6.internals for additional discussion of the issues raised in this ticket: http://tinyurl.com/3y7kgf

[perl #45525] [TODO] Configure.pl: permit an --abort-step option

2007-09-18 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by James Keenan # Please include the string: [perl #45525] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=45525 A number of Parrot developers working on configuration steps (config/ */*.pm and

[perl #45523] [TODO] Have Configure.pl inform user of failed configuration steps

2007-09-18 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by James Keenan # Please include the string: [perl #45523] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=45523 Configure.pl has long operated as a harness for the running of individual

[perl #45523] [TODO] Have Configure.pl inform user of failed configuration steps

2007-09-18 Thread James Keenan via RT
See this non-RT thread on perl.perl6.internals for additional discussion of the issues raised in this ticket: http://tinyurl.com/3y7kgf

Re: Micro-articles on Perl 6 Operators

2007-09-18 Thread Paul Hodges
--- Adriano Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [[snips here and at end]] . . . I have one suggestion: you might want to mention the roundrobin function in the article on the zip function since the two are very closely related. Thanks, Joe and Alberto. Even though the roundrobin is very

Re: Micro-articles on Perl 6 Operators

2007-09-18 Thread Adriano Ferreira
On 9/18/07, Paul Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Adriano Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [[snips here and at end]] . . . I have one suggestion: you might want to mention the roundrobin function in the article on the zip function since the two are very closely related. Thanks,

Re: Micro-articles on Perl 6 Operators

2007-09-18 Thread Joe Gottman
Adriano Ferreira wrote: I salute every bit of help. I am trying to organize the production and will hopefully provide more details soon. By now, I think that I can handle suggestions and corrections to the articles. The next one is here: http://ferreira.nfshost.com/perl6/stitching6.html

Re: Micro-articles on Perl 6 Operators

2007-09-18 Thread Paul Hodges
Looks good . . . but how short do we want them? For the non-Perl audience, I think it might be worth mentioning the (to us) obvious automatic context manipulations. e.g., ~ is stitching strings, and will make strings out of its arguments if it can -- it's not adding, but has the same

Re: Micro-articles on Perl 6 Operators

2007-09-18 Thread Larry Wall
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 09:46:14PM -0400, Joe Gottman wrote: : Adriano Ferreira wrote: : I salute every bit of help. I am trying to organize the production and : will hopefully provide more details soon. By now, I think that I can : handle suggestions and corrections to the articles. The next one

Re: Micro-articles on Perl 6 Operators

2007-09-18 Thread Larry Wall
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 07:41:54PM -0700, Paul Hodges wrote: : while length($ruler) $len; # till there's enough There is no length function anymore. Larry