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: QUOTE
: Interestingly, this one tweak to the whitespace rule also
means that we'll
: be able to simplify the parentheses out of other similar
built-in constructs:
:
: if $foo { ... }
: elsif $bar { ... }
: else { ... }
:
: while
Or possibly a universal catch, with the $@.warning and $@.die or
something, so that you can check it.
Ilya
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From: David Whipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:25 PM
To: Perl6-Language (E-mail)
Subject: catching warnings
Perl6 is
Once the patch is applied, I can test on my own win32 lcc. I don't have
on on Linux, so I can't test at this time.
Ilya
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Josh Wilmes
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ok, trying to compile with lcc for wint32, I get...
Determining if your C compiler is actually gcc (this could take a
while):
cpp: Can't open input file msvcrt.lib
C compiler died! at Configure.pl line 748, STDIN line 9.
Also, why is this line in Configure.pl (748)
system($c{cc} $c{ccflags}
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Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 12:11 PM
To: Sterin, Ilya; 'Josh Wilmes'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [patch] fixes so it builds with lcc [APPLIED]
At 02:24 PM 1/6/2002 -0800, Sterin, Ilya wrote:
Ok, trying to compile with lcc for wint32, I get
the pmc.t test 48 through 52 all fail. I've reported this two days ago
as well, seems like it hasn't been fixed yet.
nmake test also recompiles test_parrot.exe, so it's compiled once at
nmake and again at nmake test.
Ilya Sterin
The array_test #44 within pmc.t is segfaulting.
Ilya
Not sure if this has already been discussed, but I though this would be
a cool option, especially since I've ran into a few cases where this
would have been very usefull.
Using a scalar (string) with an address to another variable and be able
to dereference it. This proves very usefull when
Ok, I understand that this hasn't been implemented due to the believe
that it's a dangerous feature (Programming Perl). But would it be ok to
enable/disable it with a specific pragma?
Ilya
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From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01
of something I'm trying to accomplish:-)
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Simon Cozens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Sterin, Ilya
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Using stringified address
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 04:00:22AM -0800, Sterin, Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Simon Cozens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 8:54 AM
To: Sterin, Ilya
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Using stringified address
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 11:38:16AM -0800, Sterin, Ilya wrote:
Not sure, I'll have to take
-Original Message-
From: Dan Sugalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 9:59 AM
To: Sterin, Ilya; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Using stringified address
At 11:09 AM 1/1/2002 -0800, Sterin, Ilya wrote:
Ok, I understand that this hasn't been
Sterin, Ilya wrote:
I haven't done any testing yet, though.
It compiles here, too. But 'nmake test' runs as far as
t/op/basic..ok
t/op/bitwiseok
t/op/debuginfo..ok
t/op/hacks..ok
t/op/integerok
t/op/interp.ok
t/op/macro..ok
t/op
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From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 1:12 PM
To: 'Dan Sugalski'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Using stringified address
-Original Message-
From: Dan Sugalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent
might be before going deeper.
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Sebastian Bergmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 10:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Color codes in tinderbox (All tests pass!!!)
Sterin, Ilya wrote:
Mine pass fine...
Current
, January 01, 2002 11:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Color codes in tinderbox (All tests pass!!!)
Sterin, Ilya wrote:
I wonder if it matters what current perl version you are
using? Also
what VC++ and Service Pack are you using as well as your OS.
MS Windows 2000 Profession, SP
io_os.c(127) : error C2065: 'F_GETFL' : undeclared identifier
With the latest CVS, after the ParrotIO patch.
Ilya
Oooopss, sorry. Disregard this, since Melvin just submitted the actual
correct version:-)
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 8:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: io.c problem and patch
Small patch to return
-Original Message-
From: Melvin Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 5:58 PM
To: Jason Diamond; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ParrotIO : Please test this [PATCH] for breakage
At 03:33 PM 1/1/2002 -0800, Jason Diamond wrote:
It compiled fine with #if 0, but now interp1.t hangs.
Ilya
P.S. I have to step away for a few, but I'll be back to test the rest
in an hour or so.
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From: Melvin Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 6:46 PM
To: Sterin, Ilya; 'Jason
-Original Message-
From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 10:05 PM
To: 'Melvin Smith'; 'Jason Diamond'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ParrotIO : Please test this [PATCH] for breakage
It compiled fine with #if 0
Just to let you know, the latest CVS compiled on Win32 VC++ 6.0
Enterprise SP 5. There are quite a few warning, though it's a big
progress from yesterday's problems. I haven't done any testing yet,
though.
Ilya
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Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 4:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Color codes in tinderbox
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Sterin, Ilya wrote:
Just to let you know, the latest CVS compiled on Win32 VC++ 6.0
Enterprise SP 5. There are quite a few warning, though it's a big
-Original Message-
From: Bryan C. Warnock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:10 PM
To: Sterin, Ilya; 'Dan Sugalski'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Color codes in tinderbox
On Monday 31 December 2001 11:58 pm, Sterin, Ilya wrote:
Straight out
Trying to build 0.0.3.
perl Configure.pl runs fine.
nmake
No warnings above.
cl -nologo -O1 -MD -DNDEBUG -DWIN32 -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT
-DHAVE_DES_FC
RYPT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX
-I./in
clude -Fochartypes/usascii.obj -c
Thanks, I'll try right now.
-Original Message-
From: Dan Sugalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 8:33 PM
To: Sterin, Ilya; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Win32 build problems
At 11:27 PM 12/30/2001 -0800, Sterin, Ilya wrote:
The package
on CVS checkout? I used
cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/public co parrot
Would it make a difference if I loged in with my perl.org user/pass???
Ilya Sterin
-Original Message-
From: Dan Sugalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 8:33 PM
To: Sterin, Ilya
Ohhh, just though about it, the user/pass is not registered in the cvs
server, and I don't need for now.
Though the anonymous should of worked, right?
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Dan Sugalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 8:33 PM
To: Sterin, Ilya
..cvsignore file lists the vtable.h file???
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Dan Sugalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 8:33 PM
To: Sterin, Ilya; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Win32 build problems
At 11:27 PM 12/30/2001 -0800, Sterin, Ilya wrote
Ok, sorry guys. I see now it's generated by vtable_h.pl, but am I
supposed to run it or is Configure.pl supposed to do it, as I see it now
nothing does this.
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:59 AM
To: 'Dan
'0x2'
Stop.
Ilya Sterin
-Original Message-
From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:55 AM
To: 'Dan Sugalski'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Win32 build problems
Ohhh, just though about it, the user/pass is not registered
in the cvs
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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:15 PM
To: Dan Sugalski
Cc: Sterin, Ilya; ''[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' '
Subject: Re: String/Number differentiation
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 07:09:56PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 03:49 PM 9/17/2001 -0600, Sterin, Ilya wrote:
I guess
-Original Message-
From: raptor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 8:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Links
All I found with lycos... but no speed comparison only mumbo-jumbo :
http://language.perl.com/versus/
Sorry, went a little of our the way. Will keep my mouth shut on those thing
from now on:-)
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From: Dan Sugalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 2:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Links
At 02:24 PM 9/8/2001 -0400, Sterin
Actually there were some tests done, can't recall where now, though by a
trusted source. I will be digging it up in my email and emailing it to the
list. There were a few languages tested including Perl, C, C++, Java (can't
remember if Python was there). Perl came in in second place after C.
-Original Message-
From: raptor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:47 PM
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LangSpec: Statements and Blocks [first,last]
hi,
As we read in Damian Conway- Perl6-notes, there will by a
-Original Message-
From: Russ Allbery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ! and !
Bart Lateur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why is it = and not =?
Because in English, it's less than or equal to not equal to or
Though it might prove convenient (just more syntax for more than one way to
do it) it's equivalent to ! == = and ! == = , it might be too confusing,
though I myself would think that since != and ne is implemented, ! and !
would definitely make common sense to implement as well.
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Russ Allbery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 4:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ! and !
raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was looking at Interbase SELECT syntax and saw these two handy
shortcuts :
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 6:06 PM
To: Russ Allbery
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ! and !
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 02:40:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
How is ! different from =?
It's just
-Original Message-
From: Bryan C. Warnock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 5:59 PM
To: Russ Allbery; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ! and !
On Saturday 01 September 2001 05:40 pm, Russ Allbery wrote:
Sterin, Ilya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From
As was mentioned earlier, a closure can as well be a named sub, not
necessarily an anonymous.
Ilya
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From: Paul Johnson
To: Dave Mitchell
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08/21/2001 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: explicitly declare closures???
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001
Usually the generic way is to send email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], so in your case try
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Patel, Sharad
To: Eric Roode; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08/21/2001 7:22 AM
Subject: HOw to Unsub
HI Guys
Sorry for this but I need to know how to
I was just wondering if there will be any solution for the circular
refernece memory leak (I guess you can call it a problem). Can't we keep
information on the number of circular references in the SV structure and
then decrement the references count by one + the circular reference count at
the
, Ilya; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: 08/01/2001 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: Circular references
At 01:01 PM 08-01-2001 -0600, Sterin, Ilya wrote:
I was just wondering if there will be any solution for the circular
refernece memory leak (I guess you can call it a problem). Can't we
keep
information on the number
-Original Message-
From: David L. Nicol
To: Buddha Buck
Cc: Sterin, Ilya; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: 08/01/2001 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: Circular references
Buddha Buck wrote:
At 01:01 PM 08-01-2001 -0600, Sterin, Ilya wrote:
Can't we keep
information on the number of circular
Well guess not, since something like this...
{
my ($a, $b, $c);
$a = \$b;
$b = \$c;
$c = \$a;
}
would definitelly be hard, resource consuming to implement a circular
reference count.
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday
in ?:: or any other condition checking block, 0 is true, everything else is
false. I am yet to see why otherwise or any third condition is needed. If
that's then we can have 4 conditions 1,0,-1,undef, and we can keep going.
That is why there are conditions, if you want to check for -1 you must
What's the point, you can accomplish the same with if/elsif/else. Maybe I'm
not understanding this correctly, but
if (cond)
{}
elsif (cond)
{}
else
{}
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: raptor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 9:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: raptor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 12:32 PM
To: Sterin, Ilya; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: if then else otherwise ...
I've/m never used/ing elseif ( i hate it :) from the time I
have to edit
a perl script of other person
\%foo = \%bar is fine with me, it's the is alias I was a little worried
about.
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: David L. Nicol
To: Sterin, Ilya
Cc: 'Davíð Helgason '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '; 'John Porter '
Sent: 07/24/2001 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: aliasing a value [...]
Sterin, Ilya wrote
..., just by incrementing a counter, while comparing to the shortes
array, but I'm wondering if a control variable would yield other benefits
and if nothing else decrease the amount of written code.
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: David L. Nicol
To: Sterin, Ilya
Cc: Perl 6 Language
Sent: 07
alias(%foo, %bar) is better IMO since it conforms to other functions in
perl.
my %foo is alias = %bar; #seems a little out of scope of the language,
unless more functionality is implemented in that way.
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Davíð Helgason
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; John Porter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 5:50 AM
To: Sterin, Ilya; 'raptor '; Perl 6 Language
Subject: RE: array/hash manipulation [was :what's with 'with'?]
Sterin, Ilya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just one question, how
-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 8:40 PM
To: Sterin, Ilya; 'raptor '; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: array/hash manipulation [was :what's with 'with'?]
Sterin, Ilya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm. Didn't think about
No, I don't think you are understanding it correctly. It's not about
looping sequentially, but rather simultaneouly, for comparison purposes.
@foo = (1,2,3);
@bar = (1,2,3);
for my ($foo, $bar) (@foo, @bar) #As the index for @foo increases, so
#does @bar
at 11:17:13AM -0600, Sterin, Ilya wrote:
But this will be flattened, so I would think
for my($key, $val)(%my_hash)
{ ... }
Would be a great convenience. $key and $val being aliased
accordingly.
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how this is a big improvement over the
current version
Agree. I think that with() should only be used with object references only,
and $_ should be set accordingly.
Ilya
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From: John Porter
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07/19/2001 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: aliasing - was:[nice2haveit]
Sterin, Ilya wrote:
But I thought
Why would you want it to print Monkey Hero, I would expect $_ to be
localized, rather than global, which could prove more convenient.
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rocks
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07/19/2001 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: what's with 'with'? (was: [aliasing -
:)
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: 'John Porter '
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07/19/2001 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: what's with 'with'? (was: [aliasing - was:[nice2haveit]])
Sterin, Ilya wrote:
Well then maybe $_ can be a reference to a multidimensional array or
hash,
and temp vars can be access
But I thought this was related to more than just with(), so if we have
foreach (1..10)
{
print;
### But if you are trying to use it in a string
print This is number $_ of 10\n;
### Would now have to be printed as
print This is number ;
print;
print of 10\n;
### Which is three extra
Well if you look at the proposed...
$_ = monkey ;
$foo = coward;
with ($foo){
print;
print $_;
}
Would print coward monkey, which will give you unexpected results if you
are used to having the same output for both, coward coward.
But I guess the above would not replace $_ which
I question this too, since as you mentioned with, in my experience works
nicely to reference and object like
with(object)
{
.foo();
.bar();
}
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: Mark Koopman
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07/19/2001 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: what's with 'with'? (was: [aliasing
Stuart Rocks wrote:
CWith would also make the [variable, alias, whatever]
default, but not replace the $_:
$_ = monkey ;
$foo = coward;
with ($foo){
print;
print $_;
}
would output monkey coward.
okay, coward is default but $_ has not been replaced, so would not
the
Well then maybe $_ can be a reference to a multidimensional array or hash,
and temp vars can be access like this.
for ( @foo, @bar ) {
print $_-[0] : $_-[1]\n;
}
As for hashes it might hold the key, also in an multidimensional array.
Ilya
-Original Message-
From: John Porter
To:
$foo = [$one, $two, $three]; # creates an anonymous list.
$foo = [$object method(foo, bar)];
This would interpret as
$foo[0] == $object, etc...
Ilya
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From: Buddha Buck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:20 PM
To: Piers Cawley
Cc: Bart
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