Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 06:26 PM 9/25/2001 -0700, Benjamin Stuhl wrote: >--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 06:07 PM 9/25/2001 -0700, Benjamin Stuhl wrote: > > >But why store it in this > > >format? What we really need to store is the list of what > > we > > >expect in the table and where. > > > > We h

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Benjamin Stuhl
--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 06:07 PM 9/25/2001 -0700, Benjamin Stuhl wrote: > >Just to make sure that it's making the _right_ sense, > the > >fixup section is basically our single level of > indirection > >so that we can make the bytecode itself be > >position-independant, rig

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 06:07 PM 9/25/2001 -0700, Benjamin Stuhl wrote: >Just to make sure that it's making the _right_ sense, the >fixup section is basically our single level of indirection >so that we can make the bytecode itself be >position-independant, right? Yup. >But why store it in this >format? What we real

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Benjamin Stuhl
--- Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 07:36 PM 9/25/2001 -0400, Gregor N. Purdy wrote: > >I'm just waiting for the thumbs-up from Simon and Dan > before committing > >that increment and then moving on to do the changes to > the format to > >support more than just strings in const_table.

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 05:28 PM 9/25/2001 -0700, Damien Neil wrote: >On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 08:18:04PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: > > That'd be interesting. Try cobbling up a version of the assembler that > does > > big-endian assembly and a loader that reads and byteswaps, and see what > you > > get for start-to-

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Damien Neil
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 08:18:04PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: > That'd be interesting. Try cobbling up a version of the assembler that does > big-endian assembly and a loader that reads and byteswaps, and see what you > get for start-to-finish performance. I'm going to take a crack at that Real

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 04:24 PM 9/25/2001 -0700, Damien Neil wrote: >In particular, I'd like to see if we can >get empirical data to justify some of the design decisions that >are being assumed. Exactly how expensive, for example, would it >be to use a single bytecode format with platform-independent >encodings? Th

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 05:03 PM 9/25/2001 -0700, Damien Neil wrote: >On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:38:28AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > > But then I'm one of those weird critters who doesn't understand what > all the > > complaining over XS is about. :) I'd be happy to do the XS coding if it > came > > down to it. > >

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Damien Neil
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 12:38:28AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > But then I'm one of those weird critters who doesn't understand what all the > complaining over XS is about. :) I'd be happy to do the XS coding if it came > down to it. I'll take a look at making the assembler and disassembler use t

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Damien Neil
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 07:36:31PM -0400, Gregor N. Purdy wrote: > I'm currently working on some assigned taskes for the bytecode stuff > for 0.0.2. I need to get it to the point where we can stash NVs in > the const_table. I've already got the interpreter using packfile.[hc] > for its work (I pos

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 07:51:22PM -0400, Gregor N. Purdy wrote: > Is there hope that 0.0.2 could be out by the end of the week if I get > the tasks assiged to me done RSN? Once we've got NVs into the constant table, we can ensure they're aligned nicely, and all the problems we're seeing on Sparc

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Gregor N. Purdy
Simon -- > I think that's exactly what needs work, and one of the things Gregor > is looking at. Here's how it goes. > > Before 0.0.2 is released, we need to pass tests on Sparc, Someone else has to tinker with this this... (no Sparc here) > which means we need to stop dereferencing NVs o

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 07:36 PM 9/25/2001 -0400, Gregor N. Purdy wrote: >I'm just waiting for the thumbs-up from Simon and Dan before committing >that increment and then moving on to do the changes to the format to >support more than just strings in const_table. A cooler packfile/ >bytecode file format is due post-0.

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 07:36:31PM -0400, Gregor N. Purdy wrote: > I'm currently working on some assigned taskes for the bytecode stuff > for 0.0.2. Hrm, we should probably be using the request tracker to manage these takss. > the const_table. I've already got the interpreter using packfile.[hc]

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Gregor N. Purdy
Damien -- > Are there any issues holding up 0.0.2 that I (or others) could work > on? Failing that, what areas of Parrot are most in need of immediate > work? > > I'm interested in looking at the bytecode loader, if nobody else > has intentions there. In particular, I'd like to see if we can >

Re: 0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Simon Cozens
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 04:24:53PM -0700, Damien Neil wrote: > I'm interested in looking at the bytecode loader, if nobody else > has intentions there. I think that's exactly what needs work, and one of the things Gregor is looking at. Here's how it goes. Before 0.0.2 is released, we need to pa

0.0.2 needs what?

2001-09-25 Thread Damien Neil
Are there any issues holding up 0.0.2 that I (or others) could work on? Failing that, what areas of Parrot are most in need of immediate work? I'm interested in looking at the bytecode loader, if nobody else has intentions there. In particular, I'd like to see if we can get empirical data to ju