Re: Shortcut: ?=

2003-02-04 Thread John Williams
What about: ($var = 'succeeded') ||= 'failed'; On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Sean O'Rourke wrote: Argh. Please disregard that last message as the ramblings of a pre-caffeinated mind. /s On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Sean O'Rourke wrote: On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Dave Mitchell wrote: $var ??= 'succeeded'

AW: Language Discussion Summaries

2003-02-04 Thread Murat Ünalan
to provide a feeling for the weight of opinion, e.g., most people felt this way, some people felt differently, etc. One should trace back who was of what opinion. So my suggestion would be Discussion: Foo feature Want it:Person A, Person B, Person C, Person D Reject it: Person E,

Re: AW: Language Discussion Summaries

2003-02-04 Thread Luke Palmer
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Murat_=DCnalan?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:21:11 +0100 to provide a feeling for the weight of opinion, e.g., most people felt this way, some people felt differently, etc. One should trace back who was of what opinion. So my suggestion would be

Re: Arrays: Default Values

2003-02-04 Thread Piers Cawley
Rick Delaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd also like to point out that ruby has defaults for hashes but assigning nil (the equivalent of undef) does not set the default; delete does. Yeah, but Hashes aren't Arrays. And vice versa. -- Piers

Re: Arrays: Default Values

2003-02-04 Thread Piers Cawley
Aaron Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 14:54, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: Can someone give me a realish world example of when you would want an array that can store both undefined values and default values and those values are different? my @send_partner_email is

Re: Language Discussion Summaries

2003-02-04 Thread Miko O'Sullivan
The idea of discussion summaries has been well received, so I'm going to push forward with a few. I invite everyone here to join in. The idea is *not* that Miko writes summaries of every thread. The idea is that the proponent of an idea, or someone very interested in an idea, writes a summary

Re: Language Discussion Summaries

2003-02-04 Thread Buddha Buck
Miko O'Sullivan wrote: The idea of discussion summaries has been well received, so I'm going to push forward with a few. I invite everyone here to join in. The idea is *not* that Miko writes summaries of every thread. The idea is that the proponent of an idea, or someone very interested in an

Re: Language Discussion Summaries

2003-02-04 Thread Miko O'Sullivan
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Buddha Buck wrote: You suggest doing it in HTML. Wouldn't it make more sense to do it in POD, the standard documentation language for Perl? For now, since it's a web site, let's stick to HTML. If somebody just way prefers POD, contact me off list and we'll figure out the

Re: Language Discussion Summaries

2003-02-04 Thread Buddha Buck
Miko O'Sullivan wrote: And how do these differ in concept to the RFC process Perl 6 has already gone through? Wouldn't it make sense, assuming that clean, final presentations of proposed ideas or features in Perl are useful, to re-open the RFC process? RFC's are proposals before the comments.

Re: Language Discussion Summaries

2003-02-04 Thread Miko O'Sullivan
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Buddha Buck wrote: You are aware the that RFCs went through a revision process, and the finalized RFCs that the Design Team are looking at are supposed to include the final form of the idea after discussion, and a summary of what was thought of it? Many of the RFCs

Re: Language Discussion Summaries

2003-02-04 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:56:34AM -0500, Buddha Buck wrote: Miko O'Sullivan wrote: And how do these differ in concept to the RFC process Perl 6 has already gone through? Wouldn't it make sense, assuming that clean, final presentations of proposed ideas or features in Perl are useful, to

Re: Language Discussion Summaries

2003-02-04 Thread gregor
Sounds like a job for a bot! (couldn't resist) -- Gregor Jonathan Scott Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/04/2003 11:38 AM Please respond to duff To: Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Miko O'Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re:

This weeks' summary

2003-02-04 Thread p6summarizer
The Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 20030202 Welcome to the second Perl 6 summary of the Copious Free Time era and already I've broken the 'mailed out by Monday evening' promise. There were reasons however, mostly to do with going down to London to do the paperwork for my