g adjectives to nouns,
> while hyphens separate distinct words. One could argue that is not
> inconsistent.
>
> On 8/23/11, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 05:36:27PM +0200, Damian Conway wrote:
>>> And I'd like there to be a more consistent approach than that
>>> (though I don't really care what it actually is).
>>
>> +1 to consistency.
>>
>> Pm
>>
>
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l things are spelled with
>> underscores, while we reserve the minus character for user-space code.
>> Try grepping the specs for identifiers of built-ins that have a minus in
>> it -- I didn't find any in a quick search.
>>
>>
>>> And why is this entire message written in questions?
>> Is it? I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean.
>>
>> See
>>
https://github.com/perl6/specs/commit/a7cfe02002f665c120cf4b735919779820194757
>> maybe it's a charset problem on your machine, or something.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Moritz
>
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e added
> "=" character.
>
> This aids learnability as there's a relatively simple mnemonic, where nearly
> any given operator foo is non-mutating, but by adding an "=" to it you get a
> mutating variant, so people can look for the "=" to know if it would mutate.
> The comparison ops are the rare exception to the rule.
>
> -- Darren Duncan
>
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xactly matches the output of my iterative Perl 6
> solution
> (http://rosettacode.org/mw/**index.php/Gray_code#Perl_6<http://rosettacode.org/mw/index.php/Gray_code#Perl_6>
> ):
>
> our multi sub infix: ( $x, $y ) { ( $x + $y ) % 2 };
>
Why did you need to define this yourself instead of just using +^ ?
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either list is
empty. But the self-reference in the definition means it still has to be
computed lazily.
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on where you place the zero, unless you first convert
> the Instant in a Duration (e.g. seconds since 1 jan 1970)
>
>
> Right. And therefore having to do the conversion explicitly is a good thing
> -- you immediately see which epoch was used.
>
> Cheers,
> Moritz
>
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arry. Isn't the ":4<222>"
syntax sufficient? Unless you're manipulating a lot of bitstreams in
pairwise increments, I don't see the point. Orthogonality for its own
sake is not very Perlish...
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But state changes are not undone, so the program can
still behave differently after the continuation is called.
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x27;t a problem to solve; it's one form
of solution to the problem of maximizing efficiency.
Continuations/fibers and asynchronous event loops are different
solutions to the same problem.
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it's not universal, and there are alternatives. Of the ones you
mentioned, I would also probably pick "update" in the general case.
But if we're talking about implementing attribute assignments,
"assign" might be more logical.
Of alternatives you didn't mention, I like "put" - as pithy as "get"
and "set", with plenty of corresponding history (SmallTalk, POSIX,
HTTP,...).
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ifferent way of specifying a condition
that isn't meant to be compared to the topic, and so doesn't invoke
smartmatching at all: it's just evaluated in Boolean context as-is. I
like the suggestion of "whenever" for that; it has the "no matter
what" sense that goes with ignoring the topic.
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#x27;d tried that and it didn't work.
> Though more efficient would be:
>
>> my @x = 1,2,3; say ?...@x.first(2); say ?...@x.first(4);
> 1
> 0
Ah, perfect. Thanks!
> I still prefer the junction way though. :-)
I love junctions, but it feels like overkill to use them for this. :)
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x27;s a keyword [item in array] or specific method
[array.include? item] or function [in_array($item, $array)]...
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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Chris Fields wrote:
> On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote:
>> Can I get an Amen? Amen!
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>
> +1. I'm agnostic ;>
Militant? :) ( http://tinyurl.com/3xjgxnl )
Nothing inherently religious ab
On Wednesday, July 28, 2010, Jon Lang wrote:
> Keep it simple, folks! There are enough corner cases in Perl 6 as
> things stand; we don't need to be introducing more of them if we can
> help it.
Can I get an Amen? Amen!
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x.
Or at least I thought that was the case, but in current Rakudo I
notice that :13(54) is a Num while 69 is an Int.
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On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Darren Duncan wrote:
> Larry Wall wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:53:27PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
>> : In particular, consider that pi ~~ 0..4 is true,
>> : because pi is within the range; but pi ~~ 0...4 is false, becaus
Strike the "counter to current Rakudo behavior" bit; Rakudo is
behaving as specified in this instance. I must have been
hallucinating.
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> Ok, I find that surprising (and counter to current Rakudo behavior),
> but thanks for the
Ok, I find that surprising (and counter to current Rakudo behavior),
but thanks for the correction, and sorry about the misinformation.
On Wednesday, July 21, 2010, Larry Wall wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:53:27PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> : In particular, consider that pi ~~ 0
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Jon Lang wrote:
> Mark J. Reed wrote:
>> Perhaps the syllabic kana could be the "integer" analogs, and what you
>> get when you iterate over the range using ..., while the modifier kana
>> would not be generated by the series
pecific
behavior, though perhaps it doesn't belong in core.
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> @@ -198,6 +217,9 @@
> Monday of the week in which it occurs, and the time components are all
> set to 0.
>
> +For the convenience of method chaining, C and C return the
> +calling object.
> +
> =head1 Date
>
> C objects are immutable and represent a day without a time component.
> @@ -246,8 +268,6 @@
> $d + 3 # Date.new('2010-12-27')
> 3 + $d # Date.new('2010-12-27')
>
> -As temporal objects are immutable, += -= ... do not work.
> -
> =head1 Additions
>
> Please post errors and feedback to C. If you are making
>
>
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able and then turn around
and talk about modifying them. How about just saying that "A new
C can also be based on an existing C object:" ?
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wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
> wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>>
>> On 7/15/10 12:21 , Mark J. Reed wrote:
>>> By analogy, I'd say week-of-year should work as well.
>>
>> Wasn&
art, even if Perl 6 has chosen a convention.
>
> On the other hand, I won't complain about a "week-of-year" with a good
> definition of how it handles weeks 0/1, 52/53. End user can choose to
> use it or not. And I'm not too anxious to open up the whole calendar
> choice can of worms.
>
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ft.
>
> @@ -246,6 +246,7 @@
> year
> month
> day
> + day-of-month
> day-of-week
> week
> week-year
>
>
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(in addition to whatever specific functionality it
needs) makes sense, IMHO.
.
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error reminding Perl 5 users to use dot instead. (The "pointy block"
use of C<< -> >> in Perl 5 requires preceding whitespace when the arrow
^
Shouldn't that read "in Perl 6"?
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on of these code points. (and
U+x for all valid values of x up through 0x10) are invalid so they
can be used as sentinel values within application memory, for
instance. Whereas U+FFFE is illegal precisely because it's the
inverse of the BOM.
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letting CPAN/etc be the language, especially where complexity comes in.
>
> It also means that temporal modules can be bundled with Perl, but that is a
> choice made by the Perl packagers, not the Perl core, same as deciding what
> templating or networking or database or whatever modules to bundle.
>
>
>
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> propose it'd be about 365.25 Gregorian days (although I'd much prefer an
> international standard to my Indo-European ways :) ).
>
> Overall, I think you have a great idea. As long as the filters are
> implemented simply, I think it will prove to be the best option.
>
> --
> Don't Panic!
>
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plementations of methodicals in terms of other
> > language
> > > features. First, it is possible to treat methodicals as ordinary
> methods
> > > (monkey typing under the hood), but with generated names; the true name
> > is
> > > bound to the program name only within the correct scope. If possible,
> > the
> > > methods should be treated as anonymous, accessible only though an
> opaque
> > name
> > > object. Care must be taken to prevent incorrect exposure of private
> > fields and
> > > methods.
> > >
> > > Alternatively, a methodical can be desugared to a multi sub with the
> same
> > scope
> > > as the methodical itself, changing statically named method calls into
> > calls to
> > > the methodical. This gives reflection invisibility and privacy for
> free,
> > but
> > > may require more work to get the multi call semantics exactly right.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > -Stefan
> > >
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> > >
> >
>
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se $date - $start_of_epoch to
> obtain a day count starting from a fix epoch
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efit of a Date object
over a DateTime object that simply has its time fields zeroed, which is
flexibility. The latter is still by implication tied to a specific swath of
spacetime (e.g. midnight to midnight in some time zone), whereas the former
is free to refer to whatever the human date designation can.
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"
On Friday, April 16, 2010, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> or at least, Date should have a method that returns it's value as
> pairs suitable for passing to DateTime.new.
Obviously that should be "its value". Thank you, iPhone, for thinking
you know better than I how to
etics on C objects, two more
> +methods are exposed:
> +
> + $d.daycount
> + Date.new-from-daycount(Int $daycount)
> +
> +The C method returns the difference of number of days between the
> +current object and an arbitrary start of epoch. This epoch is arbitrary and
> +implementation dependent, and is even allowed to change between invocations
> of
> +the same program. The C constructor creates a new C
> +object with a given daycount.
> +
> =head1 Additions
>
> Please post errors and feedback to C. If you are making
>
>
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, it may have both of those, with the
difference you indicated. It's all about choosing the right name. :)
Whatever you call it, it's a valuable function, I'm just arguing that it's
not "truncation" unless you're talking about a calendar where you number
Sunday-based weeks from a given epoch.
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creates a dynamic scope for an srand: e.g. "temp srand { ... };"
>
That seems like a reasonable solution.
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ccepts all of these as named arguments, allowing several values to be
> set at once:
>
> @@ -175,12 +175,12 @@
> values, and an exception is thrown if the result isn't a sensible date
> and time.
>
> -If you use the C public accessor to adjust the time zone, the
> +If you use the C public accessor to adjust the time zone, the
> local time zone is adjusted accordingly:
>
> my $dt = DateTime.new('2005-02-01T15:00:00+0900');
> say $dt.hour; # 15
> - $dt.time_zone = '+0600';
> + $dt.timezone = '+0600';
> say $dt.hour; # 12
>
> The C method allows you to "clear" a number of time values
>
>
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> I think that having a standard, minimal API for this defined in core as a
>> Date role would be ideal.
>
>
> Agreed. In fact, I'd like to see DateTime be defined explicitly as a
> superset (subrole) of Date, wi
icitly as a
superset (subrole) of Date, with a method for extracting just the Date
portion built in to DateTime.
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antage of this scheme that I can think of.
> The disadvantages, which affect everyone, are many and bigger:
> search/replace headaches, novice confusion, adding to Perl's "syntax
> infamy," etc.
>
> (Besides, I'm sure you can Acme::-up something that implements this
> scheme in Perl 6 for your own devious purposes anyway… ;)
>
> -John
>
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antage of this scheme that I can think of.
> The disadvantages, which affect everyone, are many and bigger:
> search/replace headaches, novice confusion, adding to Perl's "syntax
> infamy," etc.
>
> (Besides, I'm sure you can Acme::-up something that implements this
> scheme in Perl 6 for your own devious purposes anyway… ;)
>
> -John
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ead of either supress it
> > or use an underscore...
>
> These nuances are exactly what will be lost on people who see classes
> that use both underscores and hyphens in their method names.
>
> -John
>
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d to an integer.
>
>The C method returns the C object
>
> (i.e. only C<.from_epoch()> actually uses underscore).
>
> Oh, and the optional C<:timezone> argument to C<.new()> should probably
> become C<:time-zone> for consistency with the C<.time-zone()> method
> (or, preferably, we should jut bite the bullet and go with C
> throughout).
>
> Damian
>
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sonal preferences; I greatly prefer dashes in
> almost all of the code I write. But I acknowledge that most of the
> programmers out there seem to expect underscores -- and also, the aim
> was to produce a small delta from CPAN's DateTime and not change
> around things ad lib.
>
> // Carl
>
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stead of May 31.
On Friday, April 9, 2010, Mark Biggar wrote:
> On 4/9/2010 4:53 AM, Moritz Lenz wrote:
>
> Am 09.04.2010 13:34, schrieb Mark J. Reed:
>
> The date still corresponds to an actual day. If I set it to Feb 31, I
> should get back Mar 2 or 3 depending on the year. Wh
is_valid('2010-02-29'), that returns whether constructing
> such a DateTime would be legal (in the sense of 'no exceptions
> thrown'). It feels comforting to always leave a way for the API
> consumer to find things out without resorting to CATCHing exceptions.
>
> // Carl
>
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ptime
> * DateTime::Duration
> * ops: $dt + $dur, $dt - $dur, $dt - $dt
>
> Expect these in the next few days or so.
>
> // Carl
>
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wouldn't mind making the change. Though maybe we
> should take a step backward and just remove :to altogether on
> the grounds that it doesn't belong, and is more confusing than useful.
> :)
>
> // Carl
>
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On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:18 PM, wrote:
> [P6 Spec] completely changed S32::Temporal
>
What motivated these changes?
> +Time is just a jumbled iTem.
>
iTem?
> +=item * 12hour
>
> +=item * 24hour
I don't like using strings for these. Feels like they should be symbols,
but they they can't s
<@foo> / -- A list of ||-style alternations of things to be
> compiled into Regexes (unless they already are)
> / <{ ... }> / -- Result of capture is interpolated as a Regex,
> compiling if necessary
> / / -- Unchanged
> / { ... } / -- Capture is merely executed, but not interpolated.
> (Unchanged)
>
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ncements on p6l is about as relevant as having Perl 5 release
>> announcements on mailing lists for individual Perl modules, or DBI release
>> announcements on the DBIx-Class list, say. -- Darren Duncan
>>
>
> Darren -
>
> FYI, Copenhagen was a Rakudo release, not a parrot release.
>
> Regards.
>
> --
> Will "Coke" Coleda
>
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dered in place of discrete.
In CSland, I suspect "atomic" is too strongly associated with
operations to be applied to a data type that has nothing to do with
multithreading or transactional integrity.
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passed; got 0 but expected 1
> [...]
>
> The error message is perhaps slightly LTA, but at least Rakudo
> (correctly) fails to match.
>
> // Carl
>
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be impracticalities in just 'adding pattern matching'.
>
> Scala case classes: http://www.scala-lang.org/node/107 or
> http://programming-scala.labs.oreilly.com/ch06.html#CaseClasses
>
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> | E-mail: wayl...@wayland.id.au | I am |
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-07#i_2073717
>
> I'm not sure what exactly the repercussions of doing attribute
> initialization with 'is ref' are apart from that. Brandon, if your
> oblique reference to Algol 68 meant something more than what I
> uncovered above, feel free to enrich the discussion by sharing what
> you know about the possible consequences of spec'ing things this way.
>
> Now if you'll excuse me, I'll go back to doing little to make the
> compiler writers' task easy. :-P
>
> // Carl
>
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On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Darren Duncan wrote:
> Mark J. Reed wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't unspace work for this?
>
> It would seem that S02 says otherwise:
>
> Although we say that the unspace hides the whitespace from the parser, it
> does not hide whit
I believe, and then all the other parsing rules would come into effect
> following that elimination, except for the big one that any literal
> continuation chars inside a quoted string are taken as normal characters as
> usual.
>
> So can we please have this continuation marker thing, and what do you think
> it should look like?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> -- Darren Duncan
>
>
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On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Steve Allen wrote:
> Hello Mark Reed and Larry Wall
Brought back to the whole list; Larry and I were hardly the only two
folks involved in this discussion.
> On Feb 23, 6:35 am, markjr...@gmail.com ("Mark J. Reed") wrote:
>> OK, this
a count of atomic seconds,
great. That, however, is not TAI. UTC and TAI and the proposed
leap-second-free UTC-replacement "TI" all tick at the same rate and at
the same time, and you can devise any number of time scales that do
likewise, differing only in the labels.
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uts and outputs of Temporal are UTC, then Perl
is using UTC, not TAI. Is it TAI internally? Well if it's
manipulating years, months, days, hours, and minutes as their TAI
values, then yes, but if it's just working with an absolute count of
atomic seconds, then there's no reason to say that it's TAI vs. UTC,
because at that level, they completely agree with each other.
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above, the
labels will be UTC - which they pretty much have to be since that's
what humans use - then Perl6 is using UTC, not TAI. It's just using
*real* UTC, not POSIX's broken idea of it that claims 24 seconds out
of the past 40 years never happened.
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Daniel Ruoso wrote:
> Em Dom, 2010-02-21 às 21:28 -0800, Larry Wall escreveu:
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:39:20AM -0500, Mark J. Reed wrote:
>> : I just want to know what Perl 6 time zero is.
>> Well, there's no such thing as time 0 in
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> Not according to S0, which says that an Instant will numify to the
^
S02.
> number of TAI seconds since "the TAI epoch". That's not opaque.
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> system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allb...@ece.cmu.edu
> electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH
>
>
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ich was midnight UT on November 17, 1858 (the epoch of VMS
system time).
I note that Rakudo currently uses the time_t value directly. I think 1
Jan 1970 is a poor choice of epoch for TAI time; having time values so
close to but not the same as time_t values would create undue
confusion.
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Carl Mäsak
wrote:
> my @a = (4...^5); say @a.perl # should be 4 3 2 1 0 1 2 3 4, according to
> TimToady
That's 4 ... ^5, right? If so, I don't see how you get that. I'd
expect (4,0,1,2,3,4), without the countdown between 4 and 0.
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"it"s with different antecedents there. Might want to
toss in a noun or two.
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cribes tr/// in terms of the .trans function, a handsome but
> very different beast. Specifically, it doesn't seem to have a "scalar
> context", with which one could count things.
>
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(In Windows: perl -ple "$_=eval" )
>
> Enter the command `exit` to end the session.
>
>
> --
> Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth,
> Shawn
>
> Programming is as much about organization and communication
> as it is about coding.
>
> I like Perl; it's the only language where you can bless your
> thingy.
>
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takes us back to Jon's branch of the thread: it would be nice to
be able to declare such an override in a general way that will apply
to any such composition that doesn't otherwise override it locally.
But what should that declaration look like?
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re a "method space" for arbitrary combinations of roles,
a sort of meta-role. It's an odd duck, but it does sort of fall out
of the multiple-dispatch semantics, which already let you base
implementation chioce on arbitrary combinations of roles...
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it is an error
> +Variables with native types do not support undefinedness, it is an error
> to assign an undefined value to them:
>
> my int $y = undef;# dies
>
>
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Duration objects.
> +The following attribute is declared:
>
> =over
>
> @@ -226,6 +227,20 @@
>
> =back
>
> +The following methods provide additional information
> +
> +=over
> +
> +=item week-of-year
> +
> +=item day-of-week
> +
> +=item week-of-month
> +
> +=item year-of-week
> +
> +=back
> +
> =head2 Gregorian::Duration
>
> The gregorian Duration declares the following attributes.
>
>
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I thought I recalled seeing that the new convention was .p6m, .p6l,
etc. I guess that idea was abandoned?
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t; $b?" is a common test, and so should be short. I'd rather require you
> to force it into list context if your goal is to test for set
> membership. In fact, that might be a clean way of handling its dual
> nature: in item context, it behaves as a Range object; in list
> context, it behaves as the RangeIterator. So:
>
> 2.5 ~~ 1..5 # true: equivalent to "2.5 ~~ 1 <= $_ <= 5".
> 2.5 ~~ @(1..5) # false: equivalent to "2.5 ~~ (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)".
>
> Incidently, this first example is why I think that Range is intimately
> related to the various order-related operators, and in particular
> before and after: its most common use outside of generating sequential
> lists is to provide a shorthand for "$min before $_ before $max" and
> similar range-testing expressions.
>
> --
> Jonathan "Dataweaver" Lang
>
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range.interval
>
> I'm new in town though, so I'll happily admit that I don't know the full
> implications of such a change. Having context-insensitive Ranges DWIM's
> better to me, but DWIMery, like beauty, is clearly in the eye of the
> beholder! :)
>
> Cheers,
> --
> smuj
>
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denominator. But for
>> floats I would only see the interval as reasonably clear. Even a step
>> of 1 is coming with some problems, because an increment of 1 does not
>> have any effect on floating point numbers like 1.03e300 or so.
> Yes. Exactly my point. By the way, do we
the rectangle formed by z1 and
z2, which is a viable (if nonlinear) definition of "between". You can
only get a Boolean answer, but it's a valid question.
That's just nitpicking, though. It's perfectly reasonable to fail()
if someone tries to construct a Range/Series/Interval out of Complex
numbers. We can use a different class for complex rectangles if we
need them.
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named
> args and proto-objects.
> (2009-08-19 12:05:29) jnthn: It passes the relevant bits to each BUILD.
> (2009-08-19 12:05:42) moritz_: jnthn: right now, yes. We were discussing
> possible enhancements
> (2009-08-19 12:06:09) __ash__: do i need anything else in the subject
> other than [PATCH]? and is it an attachment or the contents in the email?
> (2009-08-19 12:06:11) r0bby left the room (quit: Read error: 104
> (Connection reset by peer)).
> (2009-08-19 12:06:16) r0bby [n=wakaw...@guifications/user/r0bby] entered
> the room.
> (2009-08-19 12:06:30) masak: Kentrak: only the other day, I found out
> that you can easily create a new() multimethod which does delegation
> using callsame(|$args) or nextsame(|$args). that might be what you want.
> (2009-08-19 12:06:36) Kentrak: jnthn: yes, aware of that, looking for a
> way to not have to redefine multiple pieces to accomplish what I think
> should be a simple feat, defining an initializer with custom params
>
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> -Kevan Benson
> -A-1 Networks
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nternally. What we should have, though, is a standard way to
> represent the types in Perl so that users know how to deal with them.
> I think roles are the obvious choice: if the OS tells you that a file
> is HTML, then $file would do IO::Datatype::HTML, which means in turn
> it would also do IO::Datatype::Plaintext, and so on.
>
> Of course, if the OS tells you you've got a file that does
> IO::Datatype::Illudium-phosdex, and you want to *do* something with
> it, you'll need a module that knows what to do with that kind of
> file. Perl by itself knows only how to treat it as a string of raw
> bytes. Well, or as plain text. So you can treat your HTML file as
> plain text, or you can use HTML::Doc::Tree and treat it as something
> fancier.
>
>
> -David
>
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, then chdir(), then exec()
- but in Windows it may be trickier.
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:).
>
>
> -
> | Name: Tim Nelson | Because the Creator is,|
> | E-mail: wayl...@wayland.id.au| I am |
> -
>
> BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----
> Version 3.12
> GCS d+++ s+: a- C++$ U+++$ P+++$ L+++ E- W+ N+ w--- V-
> PE(+) Y+>++ PGP->+++ R(+) !tv b++ DI D G+ e++> h! y-
> -END GEEK CODE BLOCK-
>
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not exported by default, so
$ENV{UID} in Perl should be unset. Try your experiments without
exporting UID.
In any case, %ENV isn't readonly in Perl. But neither are the contents
of %ENV managed by Perl - just inherited from the parent process.
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Timothy S.
Nelson wrote:
> Ok, so suppose we only allowed direct assignment to absolute paths?
Is there an echo in here? :)
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oot
Password:
j...@krakas ~ # _
But USER isn't even a shell-maintained variable. It's set by login();
the shell just inherits it. A better example would be UID - which is
readonly.
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Carlin Bingham wrote:
> 2009/8/18 Timothy S. Nelson :
>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Mark J. Reed wrote:
>>
>> It's not in the revised spec, but I think that, even though we've
>> revived chdir, we should still have it so that ch
Er, that "basename" down there should be a "dirname", for those
playing along at home. Memo to self: do not type long screeds on
Blackberry...
On 8/18/09, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> It would be nice if the bikeshed had aluminum siding. Er, I mean, if
> chdir() changed *
as chdir() has. What am I missing?
>>
>>
>
> chdir is a familar function with predictable behaviour.
> $*CWD, as a variable that "magically" changes to something other than
> what it was set to, is unfamiliar and unpredictable.
>
> Now there's nothing wrong with introducing new, unfamiliar
> functionality, if it provides a discernible benefit, but that doesn't
> seem to be the case here.
>
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ich does a
search/replace on the current working directory; the bash equivalent
"cd ${PWD/old/new}" which is not quite as handy. $*CWD could make
that simple, too.
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etter.
Nope. Have to use the drive letter. But / is understood as a synonym
for \ by the Windows API.
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lly
interchangeable. :)
I still like the double-bracket idea. I don't much mind the extra
character; 5 characters total still beats the 7 of HTML/XML.
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Given the Japanese behind the name Rakudo, "rakudone" looks like a
question: "Rakudo, right?" Beats "rakuod", though.
On 8/10/09, James Fuller wrote:
> how about
>
> 'raku'
>
> then the final version could be called
>
> 'rakudone'
>
> Jim Fuller
>
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Wrong reply button...
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From: "Mark J. Reed"
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:36:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Rukudo-Star => Rakudo-lite?
To: Gabor Szabo
That has the same problem as lots of other themes - it puts a hard
limit on the number of releases b
at are aware of whether they're being used as singular or plural.
>
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Moritz Lenz wrote:
> Presumably you want here-docs, which can be indented in Perl 6:
>
> perl 6 code
> perl 6 code
> $script.say(Q:to);
> output code
> output code
> END
>
> The leading whitespace will be pruned from the string.
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