I recall coming across a post saying the Perl6 name is up for discussion -
searched & found this post now
https://6lang.party/post/The-Hot-New-Language-Named-Rakudo describes it. Is
there a forum where the name's being discussed that I can read?
Woke up this morning with a name proposal that seeme
I think this is a fine place, personally. Past discussions have included
these high points as I recall them:
1. Perl is definitely the family name
2. Rakudo started out as the name of an implementation, but started to
wander into being the name of the specific leaf in the family tree
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Aaron Sherman wrote:
> ...
> IMHO, 6 has always been the personal name, but it could be changed to
> something that's "sixish" without being an explicit number. Normally, I'd
> recommend Latin, but Perl Sex is probably not where anyone wants to go...
>
Greek: ExiP
Thanks for the summary of the high points, as there were a large number of
low points in previous discussions.
Roku is not the only reading for 六 in Japanese, the kun reading is muttsu.
So we could become Mupperl. What's the counter word for computer
languages, anyway?
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 1
Just Mu would be an amusing Perlish pun based on Muttsu... Making the
interpretation either Perl "six" or Perl "most undefined".
I like yary's idea too.
Frankly, if Perl had an identity, I would not care about the name. I feel
like it lacks that right now.
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* What's the counter word for computer languages, anyway?
-mai? As an abstraction from paper printouts?
From: Brent Laabs [mailto:bsla...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:51 PM
To: Aaron Sherman
Cc: yary ; Perl6
Subject: Re: Naming debate- what's the locat
My personal favorite resolution is to officially name the language Rakudo, full
stop.
The implementation that was/is using the name would be renamed to something else
so it isn't the same as the language.
Then we say "Rakudo" is a sibling language of "Perl", full stop.
Then "Perl 6" becomes
Well, for what it's worth, as an outsider - IMHO, leaving "perl" behinds a
good thing. Love it or loath it, we live in a js/python/jvm leaning world.
Perl was great, but it's dated. Why have the baggage? Rakudo is a new
language. Treat it as such - best hope for it. In layman's terms an
informal "P
Looking at possible candidates from a search-engine results and
alternative manings test. some possible choices:
Mu, (the root object class),
Camelia, (the spokesbug taking over),
Shesh, (the female form of 6 in Hebrew, but unfortunately also in the
Urban Dictionary - look it up for yourself).
I doubt the name is "up for discussion" just because there's a blog
post about it. The name ain't changing ever, or at least that's how I
understand things. But, please, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Sure, you can have as many alternative nicknames and aliases as you
want (for marketing pu
Thought the conversation felt like bikeshedding but... My point still
stands. This is a new language targetted at a post php world. The
significance of a version number will be lost outside the perl echo chamber
and in that context seen as baggage... IMHO... YMMV...
On 9 Feb 2018 6:15 pm, "Lucas B
matches /perl/i they automatically toss it in the
bit bucket. Some of them are too nice to say it outright. Some aren’t.
Six.
From: Steve Pitchford [mailto:steve.pitchf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 2:08 PM
To: Lucas Buchala
Cc: Perl6
Subject: Re: Naming debate- what'
On 2018-02-09 12:55 PM, Eaglestone, Robert J wrote:
I think a name change is too radical. /And yet/.
I think Steve has a point, though I don’t know what to do about it. The
developers in my little corner of the world may not be up on the
new-language-of-the-week, but even they see Perl as a h
Ok. So here is something revolutionary.
Free up "Perl 6" for a future generation of Perl 5 and remove the ceiling
on the perl 5 language. Perl 6 has become more than a major iteration,
hasn't it?
Perl on parrot
Perl on jam
Perl on mono
Lots of space for a five from six once you vacate the lot.
On 2/10/18, Darren Duncan wrote:
> I think if we want to keep "Perl" in the name we should use "C" as a
> precedent.
> Other related languages keeping "C" include "Objective C", "C#", "C++",
> >
Perl++ would work.
Might as well follow Apple and Microsoft and call it Perl Ten. Yes,
spelled out.
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 8:16 PM, Parrot Raiser <1parr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/10/18, Darren Duncan wrote:
>
> > I think if we want to keep "Perl" in the name we should use "C" as a
> precedent.
> > Other related
Bad idea. There should not be any number in the name, in any way shape or form.
No six, no ten, or any other. Differentiating factors should be something not
a number. -- Darren Duncan
On 2018-02-09 9:15 PM, Brent Laabs wrote:
Might as well follow Apple and Microsoft and call it Perl Ten.
Don't type here.
On 2018-02-10 05:16, Parrot Raiser wrote:
On 2/10/18, Darren Duncan wrote:
I think if we want to keep "Perl" in the name we should use "C" as a precedent.
Other related languages keeping "C" include "Objective C", "C#", "C++",
Perl++ would work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/
Another 2 or 3 pennies^1 worth of strawman proposing / bikeshedding /
flight of marketing fancy about naming etc:
Perl's Rapture
===
Imagine we officially embarked on a year+ long communal process in
which we (TPF and Perl community) sort out branding and marketing of
Perlish languages. A
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 05:55:54PM +, raiph mellor wrote:
> (Perl) Rakudo
> ===
>
> If jnthn and pmichaud and larry can warm to this idea, then:
> [...]
> The 'Perl' could be dropped from Rakudo specific propaganda,
> calling the language just Rakudo instead, to reinforce that it refer
I'm about to publish some blog posts with using Perl 6 to demonstrate some
cryptographic primitives. I was thinking about calling it "rakudo" to at
least intrigue people and make them google it. Couldn't we call the
language rakudo and the implementation nqp-rakudo? (ie a rakudo
implementation in
If we assume the use of NQP is part of the project's identity, then yes that
makes sense. Historically that wasn't the case, eg the earlier Rakudo were
written to Parrot PIR directly, and there's the possibility this could change
again, though I see that as unlikely. Not a bad idea. -- Darren
Marketing is not only about branding. It is also about finding Evangelists.
Perl's traditional base was in
- Web Development,
- Text Processing,
- Bio-Informatics and
- As a general glue language among the sys admin and EDA community.
How many of these sectors are moving away or have
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Marketing is not only about branding. It is also
A bit of a digression around marketing/evangelizing
> When I wanted to learn DataScience, courses using R and Python were
> readily available. Even though I had been using Perl for 20 years, I did
> not even know where to start in the Perl ecosystem!
>
I've wondered why PDL isn't more popular, m
While I am not an expert in R, My observation about the specific features
that I use often in R and its equivalence in Perl is as follows.
- The *apply functions, Technically it is similar to Perl's map/grep and
friends.
- Magrittr: Perl5 has no equivalent function, Perl6 has the pipe
FWIW, Jupyter can also be used with Perl 6, though surely we ought to
advertise it more broadly.
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