Re: Logo considerations - 3 logos needed

2009-03-25 Thread Larry Wall
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:43:47PM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote: : On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 09:39 -0700, Larry Wall wrote: : > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:54:34AM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote: : > : On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 22:45 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote: : > : > Additionally, while you recommended

Re: Logo considerations - 3 logos needed

2009-03-25 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 09:39 -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:54:34AM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote: > : On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 22:45 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote: > : > Additionally, while you recommended Camelia for Rakudo, my > : > understanding was that Larry was recomm

Re: Logo considerations - 3 logos needed

2009-03-25 Thread Larry Wall
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:54:34AM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote: : On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 22:45 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote: : > Additionally, while you recommended Camelia for Rakudo, my : > understanding was that Larry was recommending it for Perl 6 rather than : > Rakudo. This is correc

Re: Logo considerations - 3 logos needed

2009-03-25 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 09:59 -0500, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:36:56AM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: > > Rakudo is a particular implementation of Perl 6 using Parrot. While > > it is a separate project from both Perl 6 and Parrot, it is intimately > > tied to both, and I th

Re: Logo considerations - 3 logos needed

2009-03-25 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:36:56AM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: > Rakudo is a particular implementation of Perl 6 using Parrot. While > it is a separate project from both Perl 6 and Parrot, it is intimately > tied to both, and I think its logo should reflect that. I don't see > much point in having

Re: Logo considerations - 3 logos needed

2009-03-25 Thread Mark J. Reed
Perl 6 is more than just the test suite. It's a language specification, a reference parser, a test suite, and perhaps a reference setting implementation. All of the things about the language that are not tied to a particular implementation are part of "Perl 6". Rakudo is a particular implementat

Re: Logo considerations - 3 logos needed

2009-03-25 Thread Smylers
Timothy S. Nelson writes: > 3.Rakudo needs a logo. My current vote would be for some > combination of Camelia (or whatever we choose as the Perl6 logo) and > the Parrot logo. If we're combining logos, it'd help if they have some kind of coherence rather than just look plonked next to each ot

Re: Logo considerations

2009-03-25 Thread Smylers
jason switzer writes: > Basically, the perl community has largely adopted TIMTOWTDI as a > philosophy ... For that, a cluster of arrows in different directions > seems fitting Or a toad, called Tim -- frogs are cuter than arrows! (Though timtowtdi is already associated with Perl 5, so perhaps no

Re: Logo considerations

2009-03-25 Thread Eirik Berg Hanssen
jason switzer writes: > [warning: light-hearted humor ahead] > There's also the notion that perl6's scope has creeped to accommodate a > large enough set of ideas. Seems like an appropriate logo: > > http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&q=kitchen+sink I kinda liked that one – back when

Re: Logo considerations - 3 logos needed

2009-03-25 Thread Guy Hulbert
Not speaking for Larry but ... On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 22:45 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote: > My understanding was that Rakudo only runs on top of Parrot. Either > way, I don't see why we need a logo for Parrot + Rakudo, any more than we need I think it's a logo for Rakudo = Parrot + Per

Re: Logo considerations - 3 logos needed

2009-03-25 Thread Nigel Hamilton
> > > But IMHO there is a need for three logos: > > 1. Combined Parrot + Rakudo > > (Parrot with speech bubbles in favicon halo)++ > > > 2. Rakudo > > Camelia++ > > > 3. "Perl6 = the test suite" > > The current plan is that Perl6 will not have a single implementation but > that the test suite is

Re: Logo considerations - 3 logos needed

2009-03-25 Thread Nigel Hamilton
I like the "Camelia" it's colourful, fun - it even has an embedded, sideways reference to a "Camel". But IMHO there is a need for three logos: 1. Combined Parrot + Rakudo I like the suggestion of having cartoon "speech bubbles" around the Parrot that contain favicons of the language icons (e.g.,

Re: Logo considerations

2009-03-25 Thread jason switzer
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:10 PM, James Fuller wrote: > Is there any sponsorship money to spend on a very good graphic > designer to create something based on a small list of requirements as > to what meaning it should convey ? > I would agree; have a professional do it and we'll probably get bett

Re: Logo considerations

2009-03-25 Thread James Fuller
to further comment, I would never believe a logo actually influences which programming languages one chooses to develop in ... but I would argue that a logo needs to convey the right 'messages' to those who pay for software projects ... as with any logo; my point is to identify these messages prior

Re: Logo considerations - 3 logos needed

2009-03-25 Thread Timothy S. Nelson
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Nigel Hamilton wrote: I like the "Camelia" it's colourful, fun - it even has an embedded, sideways reference to a "Camel". But IMHO there is a need for three logos: I'm not so sure 1. Combined Parrot + Rakudo [snip] 2. Rakudo My understanding was that Raku