Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 9/28/18 6:28 PM, Larry Wall wrote: On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 03:50:31PM -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote: : On 9/27/18 12:40 AM, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: : > > I am NOT asking it to limit my request to Infinity. : > : >Yes you are, implicitly. If you don't pass any parameter for :

RE: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread Mark Devine
I guess I’m extra impressed with esoteric linguistic references. Your replies were concise and I understood them pretty quickly. Mark From: Brandon Allbery Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 21:51 To: Mark Devine Cc: la...@wall.org; ToddAndMargo ; perl6-users Subject: Re: Could this be any

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread Brandon Allbery
I'm not sure it's any better than my attempt; it has that "people's eyes will glaze over" feel to it. On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:50 PM Mark Devine wrote: > Kudos to the Benevolent Dictator! > > I'll have to loop over this a few times, but it's a blast... > > Mark > > -Original Message- >

RE: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread Mark Devine
Kudos to the Benevolent Dictator! I'll have to loop over this a few times, but it's a blast... Mark -Original Message- From: Larry Wall Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 21:28 To: ToddAndMargo Cc: perl6-users@perl.org Subject: Re: Could this be any more obscure? On Fri, Sep 28, 2018

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread Larry Wall
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 03:50:31PM -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote: : On 9/27/18 12:40 AM, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: : > > I am NOT asking it to limit my request to Infinity. : > : >Yes you are, implicitly. If you don't pass any parameter for : >$limit, $limit will take the default value

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 9/28/18 4:36 PM, Curt Tilmes wrote: On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 7:23 PM ToddAndMargo > wrote: How about just:       When used as an argument, the value Inf (Infinity)       represents "without bound" or "no limit". That would have certainly

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread Curt Tilmes
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 7:23 PM ToddAndMargo wrote: > How about just: > > When used as an argument, the value Inf (Infinity) > represents "without bound" or "no limit". > > That would have certainly tipped me off > I think you are trying to tie its meaning as an argument to the

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 9/28/18 3:54 PM, Curt Tilmes wrote: When used as an argument, the value Inf (Infinity)         represents "without bound" or "no limit" Thank you! How about just: When used as an argument, the value Inf (Infinity) represents "without bound" or "no limit". That would have

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread Curt Tilmes
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 6:49 PM ToddAndMargo wrote: > On 9/28/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: > > > > The value Inf (Infinity) represents "without bound" or > > "no limit" (meaning "all possible values") when used > > as an argument. > > > Better written would be: > >

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread Brandon Allbery
It only means that in some cases. Consider if you are writing code that places items in a grid, and you support Inf as a grid coordinate meaning "not on the grid" which might be represented differently or which might place it at whatever edge of the grid is relevant (without forcing you to know

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 9/27/18 12:40 AM, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users wrote: > I am NOT asking it to limit my request to Infinity. Yes you are, implicitly. If you don't pass any parameter for $limit, $limit will take the default value supplied by the signature, i.e. Inf. True, but that is not what the

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 9/28/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote: The value Inf (Infinity) represents "without bound" or "no limit" (meaning "all possible values") when used as an argument. Better written would be: When used as an argument, the value Inf (Infinity) represents "without

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 9/28/18 10:37 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: We're going to have a problem if "infinity" is not allowed in the presence of some programmers. "All values" can mean too many things in too many situations. And I don't think using * works here, quite, precisely because it can mean too many things.

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 9/28/18 12:34 PM, Curt Tilmes wrote: On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 2:57 PM ToddAndMargo > wrote: On 9/28/18 10:42 AM, Curt Tilmes wrote: > Indeed we do, we have a special value just for that -- Inf or ∞. Inf or ∞ still means (to me) a number too large

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread Curt Tilmes
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 2:57 PM ToddAndMargo wrote: > On 9/28/18 10:42 AM, Curt Tilmes wrote: > > Indeed we do, we have a special value just for that -- Inf or ∞. > > Inf or ∞ still means (to me) a number too large to represent. > But, I can't think of another way to say "all of them". > So if

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 9/28/18 10:42 AM, Curt Tilmes wrote: Indeed we do, we have a special value just for that -- Inf or ∞. Inf or ∞ still means (to me) a number too large to represent. But, I can't think of another way to say "all of them".

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread Curt Tilmes
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:32 PM ToddAndMargo wrote: > So how am I suppose to enter that as a value? You can enter it as just plain Inf, or, if you are up to it, my preferred form: ∞ > What it really means is "all of them". It means infinite. For the .words() method, you can pass in an

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread Brandon Allbery
We're going to have a problem if "infinity" is not allowed in the presence of some programmers. "All values" can mean too many things in too many situations. And I don't think using * works here, quite, precisely because it can mean too many things. On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:32 PM ToddAndMargo

Re: Could this be any more obscure?

2018-09-28 Thread ToddAndMargo
On 9/26/18 11:34 PM, JJ Merelo wrote: El mié., 26 sept. 2018 a las 23:31, Laurent Rosenfeld via perl6-users (mailto:perl6-users@perl.org>>) escribió: You can set a limit to the number of items (words) you want to retrieve: you will get only the first $limit words. If you don't