Re: AR-EN Morphoanalytical Dictionary

2004-03-02 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
[I'm CCing PersianComputing list] Background: I contacted Ali Samadi about the copyright status of the dictionary data that he's advertising on his site. I claimed that the data is from the AryanPour dictionary. Ali said that he will remove the dictionary until the status is cleared by Massoud

Re: PersoArabic font challenge

2004-03-02 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 20:29, Behnam wrote: > In another discussion group I was introduced to a very interesting > paper by Tom Milo of Decotype in the Netherlands on the subject of > Unicode and font technology challenges in authentic rendition of > PersoArabic script. A comment on Tom Milo: he

Re: AR-EN Morphoanalytical Dictionary

2004-03-02 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 17:08, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > He forwarded Massoud's offensive message to me. So I decided I > should reply on list. -- Not surprisingly, there is no email > address from Massoud Hashemi on the web. Massoud was among the few Persian programmers of the BBS and early inter

Re: AR-EN Morphoanalytical Dictionary

2004-03-02 Thread Ali Samadi
Hi Behdad, i´m just asking my self that when you are talking about doing write and wrong thing, did you ever thought about asking me for a permission to put my forwarded mail in a Public mail-List? The second thing, I have no idea who you are and what you are looking for and to be honest , i th

Re: AR-EN Morphoanalytical Dictionary

2004-03-02 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 18:35, Ali Samadi wrote: > iÂm just asking my self that when you are talking about > doing write and wrong thing, Behdad was not talking about right and wrong. He was talking about legal and illegal. Copyright is considered bad by many people (me including), but copying othe

Re: PersoArabic font challenge

2004-03-02 Thread C Bobroff
> A comment on Tom Milo: he is an expert in the script, but not in Unicode > really. What he says and writes are wonderful stuff (specifically the > calligraphy parts), but don't trust the accuracy of what he says about > Unicode or other standards. I appreciated the mention of "ae" (as opposed to

Re: AR-EN Morphoanalytical Dictionary

2004-03-02 Thread C Bobroff
By the way, who ARE the Aryanpour brothers? We see their data in online dictionaries all over the place. Do they not know or care? Of course, the printed versions keep getting reprinted so they get some benefit. But what is their story? Have they ever spoken on this subject? -Connie _

Re: PersoArabic font challenge

2004-03-02 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 20:14, C Bobroff wrote: > Did Persian (unicode) ever use "ae"? No. > Was it then deprecated? It was never used, so it never deprecated. Actually, I personally believe that its usage for Kazakh etc is a mistake, and a Heh should have been used, but I'm no expert in those lan

Re: AR-EN Morphoanalytical Dictionary

2004-03-02 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 20:23, C Bobroff wrote: > Do they not know or care? There have been examples of weird court rulings in Iran in case of copyright, because some religious publishers, by asking the question in a tricky way, had led Ayatollah Khomeini into issuing a Fatwa that can be interpreted

Re: AR-EN Morphoanalytical Dictionary

2004-03-02 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, C Bobroff wrote: > By the way, who ARE the Aryanpour brothers? We see their data in online > dictionaries all over the place. Do they not know or care? Of course, > the printed versions keep getting reprinted so they get some benefit. But > what is their story? Have they ever

Re: AR-EN Morphoanalytical Dictionary

2004-03-02 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
n Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 17:08, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > Massoud was among the few Persian programmers of the BBS and early > internet era. He is a friend of Reza Mahjurian that you (Behdad) know. I > remember some communication with him in the early da

Re: AR-EN Morphoanalytical Dictionary

2004-03-02 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Ali Samadi wrote: > Hi Behdad, Hi, > i´m just asking my self that when you are talking about > doing write and wrong thing, As Roozbeh already said, I didn't talk about doing write or wrong. I left the decision to you. > did you ever thought about asking me for a > perm

Re: AR-EN Morphoanalytical Dictionary

2004-03-02 Thread Behnam
In the middle of nowhere, suddenly a heated discussion (from the middle!) was dumped on list members! From what I understand, this is about copyright issue with regard of Arianpoor dictionary. Well, the printed version has been around for many years now and Arianpoor brothers should be the sons

Re: AR-EN Morphoanalytical Dictionary

2004-03-02 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Hi Behnam, My problem is that: There are people announcing an English-Persian dictionary Free to download, but, I, the Linux user that likes a dictionary on his machine, cannot use the same data. Why? Because the Mac distributer has simply closed his eyes on the copyright status of the data. A

Dictionaries on the web

2004-03-02 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Long boring thread again. I just want to note that simply putting an online dictionary service on the web does not need any permission from the copyright holder of the dictionary data. So for example I can buy an Aryanpour dictionary, extract the data, and write a web program that you can query t