I think is almost the same that in many other languages, and like in
many other with the time you can have function's libraries, or more
likely class libraries with the usefull stuff.
In desktop programming environments you have components, here you have
classes that are the same thing using it in
I use 7.3 and use RECORD as the input data type of the function by
"create function foo(record) returns int4 as '$libdir/bar' language
C". But I got this error msg:" ERROR: parser: parse error at or near
"record" at character". What is the problem? I look up the 7.3
manual. it seems record is a
in Warn_restart code
What is the problem here? Did you test it on 7.3?
On 1/25/06, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I use 7.3 and use RECORD as the input data type of the function by
> > "create function foo(record) re
Function complete(person) does not exist
Unable to identify a function that satisfies the given argument types
You may need to add explicit typecasts
On 1/25/06, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > ERROR: parser:
les generated by the join
operation. How can I do that?
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sorry, mistakenly leave out another try:
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QUERY: select *, complete(CAST (Person AS record)) from Person
ERROR: Relation reference "person" cannot be used in an expression
On 1/25/06, andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thanks, Tom. It is done by modifying coerce_type() and
can_coerce_type(). The reason I have to keep to verson 7.3 is I am
working on a research prototype that is built over pgsql 7.3. I need
the extra functions provided by that prototype.
On 1/25/06, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
&g
Hi,I am using the binary install for postgresql 8.1 Win32 on Windows XP. I know how to intstall SSL if I was installing from source, --with-openssl, but I am installing onto Windows XP for the first time, so my question is:
1. How do I install the SSL module via the install wizard?Blessings
Andrew
Re-reading the documentation, and I have the answer. If adding a
tsvector column, then for per row selection, I should also add a second
column of type regconfig to specify the language that rows contents are in.
Cheers,
Andy
Andrew wrote:
Apologies if this question has been previously
Apologies if this question has been previously covered, but I was not
able to find something similar in any of the mailing list archives.
With full text search, if you need to support a table where the content
of individual tuples/rows may be in different languages with the
language of the con
I have a feeling that an issue I'm running into is related to this:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2008-06/msg00113.php
On Windows XP running PgAdmin III 1.8.4 against either PostgreSQL 8.3.0
or 8.3.3 DB, when attempting to do a:
select * from ts_debug('french', 'catalogue');
gett
Sorry one last detail.
All of my databases are in utf-8 format. My Windows XP is en_AU and
defaults to ISO-8859-1 character sets. My postgresql.conf is set to the
default for the client_encoding setting, which should then default to
the database utf-8 format.
Andrew wrote:
One additional
s, which I have
not touched in anyway and it is also occurring with the portuguese
catalogue.
Cheers
Andy
Andrew wrote:
I have a feeling that an issue I'm running into is related to this:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2008-06/msg00113.php
On Windows XP running PgAdmin
I'm currently using JPA with Hibernate as my ORM and have been able to
convince hibernate to play nicely with the Postgresql UUID. Most of my
queries have been in EJBQL using the JPA entity manager's createQuery.
However when I try to do a UNION, JPA only returned the results of the
first que
Yeah, tried that, but get the following:
org.hibernate.MappingException: No Dialect mapping for JDBC type:
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Douglas McNaught wrote:
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The only relevant thing I have been able t
iated though.
A.M. wrote:
On Jul 31, 2008, at 5:57 PM, Andrew wrote:
I'm currently using JPA with Hibernate as my ORM and have been able
to convince hibernate to play nicely with the Postgresql UUID. Most
of my queries have been in EJBQL using the JPA entity manager's
createQuery.
Oh, I see what you mean. Use EJBQL on a view. That would probably
work. Have to get going, so will try that when I get back in several
hours. I'll let you know how I go.
Andrew wrote:
I have given it consideration, but haven't tried it as I have
concluded that I would still hav
oops, forgot to cc the mailing list again...
Andrew wrote:
I know none of this relates directly to postgresql and on reflection
is probably more appropriate for the hibernate forums. So apologies
for having raised the topic here. Also, thanks for the suggestions
that I have received on the
For an alternative view of the security argument, which may be a little
off topic...
One consideration in regard to arguments for additional security,
whether column and row level security or the divergent thread on
obfuscated stored procedures is whether postgresql currently supports
PCI (in
Hi
Can I implement a stateful UDF in C? i.e. storing the state of the
previous run of the function and access them in the succeeding runs.
Is it supported? How do I implement it? Thanks.
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this function is computed based on
this information and the current input tuple.
On 2/15/06, Michael Fuhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 11:47:49PM +0100, andrew wrote:
> > Can I implement a stateful UDF in C? i.e. storing the state of the
> > previous ru
100, andrew wrote:
> > Within the same query. The function takes a tuple as its input
> > parameter. It will be used in the where clause. So I think it will be
> > called one time for each read tuple, right? I want to maintain a
> > structure to store the information about the tup
Hi,
What are the techniques used by PostgreSQL to optimize disjunctive
queries? Treat every disjunct separately? Or special optimization is
performed to save the cost?
Could any one give me some general ideas? Thanks!
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Hi Mohammed,
See my answers below, and hopefully they won't lead you too far astray.
Note though, it has been a long time since I have done this and there
are doubtless more knowledgeable people in this forum who will be able
to correct anything I say that may be misleading or incorrect.
Ch
Mohamed wrote:
Thank you for you detailed answer. I have learned alot more about this
stuff now :)
Your welcome :-)
As I see it accordingly to the results it's between Hunspell and
Aspell. My Aspell version is 0.6 released 2006. The Hunspell was
released in 2008.
When I run the Postgres c
hi all,
I've just read that pgadmin team was hired by some company and the
project will be closed... It was a post from 2009.
I'm just curious what's the story behind that. Did anyone leave?
thanks.
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To make changes to your s
Chris Browne wrote:
andrew writes:
hi all,
I've just read that pgadmin team was hired by some company and the
project will be closed... It was a post from 2009.
I'm just curious what's the story behind that. Did anyone leave?
thanks.
Are you thinking about this annou
Hi,
Don't think this made it the first time...
Thanks,
Andrew
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Subject: Local Users "su'ing"
Hi,
I'm running postgresql 7.0.2 under Free
, motor boats etc as you store different attributes.
As postgresql is an OORBMS it should be able to handle it without any
nasty squash into the relational model tricks.
I've never used an OO database in production mind you...perhaps there is
some catch I'm not aware of.
Andrew
Hi,
If I run an UPDATE operation from one connection the changed data is only
visible form that connection. How do make the change visible from other
connections? Do I have to wrap everything in a transaction?
I'm using libpq if that makes a difference.
Thanks,
Andrew
Hi,
If I run an UPDATE operation from one connection the changed data is only
visible from that connection. How do make the change visible from other
connections? Do I have to wrap everything in a transaction?
I'm using libpq if that makes a difference.
Thanks,
Andrew
Table A has a CHECK constraint testing boolean function F.
Function F has a SELECT from Table A.
In my manual build script, I create the table, then the function, and then at the very
end of the script to I do an ALTER TABLE ADD CHECK.
pg_dump appears to put the CHECK constraint as a clause in t
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On 2007-01-21, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And no BDB (at least last I checked is not GPL)
>
> It's BSD (for obvious reasons), no?
No, Sleepycat's licence is _NOT_ BSD.
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;t provide any indication that the interactive pages exist.
Andrew
P.S. - Has anyone considered adding links in the documentation so that a
given static/interactive documentation page would contain a link to the
same page in the interactive/static section? Or at least a link from
the static
ent or the employee or agent
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Ok, now what are you handing to ./configure?
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tioned) all sorts of
ugly hairs that relate to MySQL "features" that are really just there
to cover up missing pieces of implementation. (Or rather,
used-to-be-missing. MySQL has come a long way in the past couple
releases, no matter what anyone thinks of their marketing approach of
he above is not universally true, but I have seen or read such
sentiments often enough to realise that there are plenty of
application developers who don't know anything about their database
technology.
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mp? Sure, oughta work fine, assuming you
have all the necessary support in your target system. (e.g. if
you're using plpgsql, for instance, you need to have performed
createlang for it, &c.)
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On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 09:43:01AM -0600, Thomas F. O'Connell wrote:
> DETAIL: Table has type character varying, but query expects
> character varying.
In another thread, someone else is reporting this too. I'm
wondering whether something went wrong in the 8.2.2 release
f the array in the event any disk in the side fails. So I always
use 1+0 if I can.
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ame cluster. This is really no more load than the
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I need to add a system to our postgres pg_hba.conf file; the main server went
down a few days ago, and this system was mistakenly left off the list of
allowed systems when the server was brought back up. (Older version of the
.conf file; I managed to accidentally delete the more current one whi
Okay, for some reason we still had a problem connecting after a pg_ctl reload,
but the shutdown went through this time, and everything's working now. Thanks
for the assistance.
Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrew Edson writes:
> Someone else added the IP address for the o
MySQL. If I'm using a PostGreSQL database to store data from customers, but
also have MySQL database capability, can I still use a Content Management
System that uses MySQL and still use PostGreSQL to store data from
customers?
Thank you for your time.
Cheers,
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On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 09:59 -0500, John DeSoi wrote:
> On Feb 16, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Andrew Kirkness wrote:
>
> > I am currently setting up a website and have PostGreSQL database
> > I'm using for the backend. I'm researching an open source Content
> > Mana
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 12:02:08AM +0100, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:
>
> There ought to be a proper name for this kind of pseudo-technical Gonzo
> journalism.
There is, but it's not the sort of word one uses in polite company
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Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Andrew Dunstan: Something with COPY? Andrew?
The only thing I can think of is to remove the support for ancient COPY
syntax from psql's \copy, as suggested here:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-02/msg01078.php
That's hardly a featur
On Feb 25, 9:34 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Dunstan) wrote:
> Phani Kishore wrote:
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> > hi !
>
> > i think u people could probably help me i how to query the
> > pgsql/postgis from google maps api to display the markers on the
> > google maps which are stored i
I'm working on a php project that's supposed to draw information from the DB
for display, and I've been requested to speed up the display as much as
possible. I'm drawing data from four tables, with an additional two that I
have to 'bounce' through to match the keys together. Also, I've got fi
Index Cond: ("outer".person_seq = persn.person_seq)
Total runtime: 271175.640 ms
(22 rows)
Anybody ideas what might be causing the problems with the slowdown? The slow
database is fed by slony logshipping from the 'normal' one, and both are (at
least theoreti
I've been given a file to maintain, the purpose of which is to purge the
database of records more than two years old. (Database setup is pg 8.1.3)
The program (written in perl) enters postgres as the user 'postgres', and is
supposed to select foreign-key records from all tables that link t
l-8.1-405.jdbc3 and all works fine again!
What is the issue here?
I am using Java 1.5.0_06 on Window XP SP2
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I have a select statement, used in a Perl program, which is supposed to find
all records related to those in one table which have a delete_dt field value of
four years or older.
This is the select statement:
SELECT t2.dist_id, t1.clnt_seq, t2.cntrct_seq, t2.cntrct_id, t3.aunit_seq,
t1.pe
violates
not-null constraint
FexecMain.c L1795 RExecConstraints: INSERT INTO usertbl
Oh my head hurts!!
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On 01/03/07, Andrew Madu < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Dave,
my apologies for contacting you off list but i'm having a spot of bother
with postgreSQL sequ
Hi,
this one has been finally put to bed!!
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On 01/03/07, Andrew Madu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Guys,
I'm completely stumped with this one!
I've included ActiveRecord::Base.set_sequence_name in my environment.rb,
and in my user.rb I've placed the f
pment / maintenance. As a result I would like to both solicit
the input of the community and share the results. Documentation (which
is still somewhat drafty) follows.
Thank you for your time,
Andrew Hammond
Current Approach
A common problem in the database world is handling revisions to the
dat
On Mar 6, 5:44 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Downs) wrote:
> Andrew Hammond wrote:
> > Each release will include a directory that has the same name as the
> > full release tag. This directory must contain all the scripts to be
> > applied.
>
> Have you considered usin
g the parsing that? Both approaches
feel quite awkward to me.
Andrew
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On 4/9/07, CAJ CAJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9 Apr 2007 14:47:20 -0700, Andrew Hammond
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> I'm writing a script that wants to know the latest release for a given
> major.minor version. Is there some better way than parsing
> http://www.pos
If this message has already appeared on the list, I apologize. My system tried
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ago, and I do not know if I hit send before it halted or not.
I am working with a php program that is designed to enter the database,
I'm needing to do a partial dump on a database. All of the entries in the db
can be marked as one of two groups, and I've been asked to create a dump of
just the second group. It is possible to do a select statement based dump and
just grab the one set of records in the output?
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On Apr 11, 3:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Marc") wrote:
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> The applet has been self signed. ..
I did miss that bit on my initial reading,
but like I said earlier - best to continue
it in a discussion on a Java group.
Andrew T.
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I am aware of this, yes, but the data in question is all (both sets) contained
on a single table. That's why I was looking for a way to do a 'dump where
(select foo where bar = 'criteria')' structure.
Merlin Moncure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/11/07, Andre
y bits_ in your hash value than
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> > > > I
works with
bash, csh, tcsh, and ksh under Linux:
In order to emit an actual tab character on the shell command line (and
ignore any shell auto-completion features that are normally tied to the
tab key), preface the literal tab character with Ctrl-V. Thus, the
delimiter speci
d our excellent documentation. It contains the answers
to your questions, I believe.
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Advisory locks (userlocks in pre-8.2).
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>>> Anyone have any ideas on how to handle a work queue?
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>> Advisory locks (userlocks in pre-8.2).
>
> Can someone explain why these are a better fit t
As the title of this message suggests, I've got a couple of questions about
indexing that I'm not sure about. I've tried to take a look at the docs, but I
can't remember seeing anything on these; it's quite possible, I admit, that I'm
simply not remembering all of what I saw, but I would apprec
for you, you may also be able to eliminate the
(data_logger_id, date_time) index if no other queries need it (i.e. you
added it in an attempt to speed up this specific case).
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This is entirely out of PostgreSQL's control, and up to the operating
system and cluster/failover implementation you have. Note that there
are many ways to do this wrong, including things like using tokens on
the filesystem as a lockfile (I swear someone once proposed th
BM recommends DRBD for DB2.
IBM also sells HACMP. I refuse to comment on whether IBM's advice on
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You're using Slony, right? You can't use pg_dump on a database where
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catalogue corruption Slony introduces. There's an alternative in the
Slony tools/ directory.
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community probably means a lower
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You could perhaps set up a .pgpass just for you at the beginning as
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