Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2005-03-20 Thread Woodchuck Bill
tm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Woodchuck Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The proponent certainly left a bad taste in my mouth after his little ... Too much information. LOL. Get your mind out of the gutter. ;-) -- Bill ---(end of

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2005-03-20 Thread Woodchuck Bill
Vern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Marc G. Fournier wrote in Msg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: it can't *hurt* to have the group ... I respectfully disagree with you, Marc. :) The PGSQL* hierarchy is now well distributed, and there is no need for a comp.* group. If

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2005-03-16 Thread Vern
Marc G. Fournier wrote in Msg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: it can't *hurt* to have the group ... I respectfully disagree with you, Marc. :) The PGSQL* hierarchy is now well distributed, and there is no need for a comp.* group. If anything, the ungated comp.* group will confuse newbies into thinking

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2004-12-06 Thread Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
On Saturday, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert McClenon wrote: I think that the term that is occasionally used is that the hierarchy has a hierarchy czar. That is the most straightforward way to manage a hierarchy. I did not say that it was the best or the

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was:

2004-12-05 Thread Rolf Østvik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier) wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, Rolf Xstvik wrote: I am curious. Where can i learn about these 'official newsgroups'? I can't find any information about them on www.postgresql.org.

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was:

2004-12-04 Thread Rolf Østvik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier) wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Net Virtual Mailing Lists wrote: this RFD in no way affects the mailing lists, and is in no way an 'official PostgreSQL newsgruop' ... the 'official newsgroups' are the gated ones under pgsql.* ...

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql

2004-12-04 Thread Jan Wieck
On 12/3/2004 4:12 PM, Mike Cox wrote: Jan Wieck wrote: So how exactly do you think that big number of non-developer advanced PostgreSQL users will populate the comp.* groups? I don't see them there right now, and without them the comp.* groups are the wrong groups because you will not get answers

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was:

2004-12-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, Rolf Xstvik wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier) wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Net Virtual Mailing Lists wrote: this RFD in no way affects the mailing lists, and is in no way an 'official PostgreSQL newsgruop' ... the 'official newsgroups' are the

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2004-12-04 Thread Robert McClenon
On 3 Dec 2004 20:34:36 GMT, Woodchuck Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:29:40 + (UTC) in news.groups, Marc G. Fournier From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, The pgsql.* hierarchy is a not a private one, it is a

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was:

2004-12-03 Thread Net Virtual Mailing Lists
My only suggestion: I don't care what you do with the newsgroups, just don't screw with the mailing lists. If the mailing lists go away, I will be *EXTREMELY* disappointed! - Greg Hopefully someone like Russ will tell us the correct term for domains like microsoft.* and gnu.*. Those on the

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was:

2004-12-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Net Virtual Mailing Lists wrote: My only suggestion: I don't care what you do with the newsgroups, just don't screw with the mailing lists. If the mailing lists go away, I will be *EXTREMELY* disappointed! this RFD in no way affects the mailing lists, and is in no way an

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql

2004-12-03 Thread Jan Wieck
On 12/3/2004 1:59 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Net Virtual Mailing Lists wrote: My only suggestion: I don't care what you do with the newsgroups, just don't screw with the mailing lists. If the mailing lists go away, I will be *EXTREMELY* disappointed! this RFD in no way

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql

2004-12-03 Thread Joshua D. Drake
So the current state of affairs is that we have the gated, official pgsql.* newsgroups, and the comp.* stuff is not gated in either direction? If that's the case, there should be a weekly/monthly reminder posting on the comp.* side set up, pointing out that these are not official groups and

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql

2004-12-03 Thread Woodchuck Bill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joshua D. Drake) wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: So the current state of affairs is that we have the gated, official pgsql.* newsgroups, and the comp.* stuff is not gated in either direction? Yes. If that's the case, there should be a weekly/monthly reminder posting

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2004-12-03 Thread Woodchuck Bill
David Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:29:40 + (UTC) in news.groups, Marc G. Fournier From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, The pgsql.* hierarchy is a not a private one, it is a public one carried by several of the large usenet servers. What are

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql

2004-12-03 Thread Joshua D. Drake
If that's the case, there should be a weekly/monthly reminder posting on the comp.* side set up, pointing out that these are not official groups and that real PostgreSQL questions are better asked somewhere else, if the intention is to reach real developers and get real help. I don't want to see

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql

2004-12-03 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Woodchuck Bill wrote: David Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:29:40 + (UTC) in news.groups, Marc G. Fournier From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, The pgsql.* hierarchy is a not a private one, it is a public one carried by several of the large usenet

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql

2004-12-03 Thread Jan Wieck
On 12/3/2004 3:32 PM, Woodchuck Bill wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joshua D. Drake) wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: So the current state of affairs is that we have the gated, official pgsql.* newsgroups, and the comp.* stuff is not gated in either direction? Yes. If that's the case, there should

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql

2004-12-03 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Wieck) wrote: Since the mailing list to comp.databases.postgresql.general gating was stopped over a week ago, there has been zero communication on that newsgroup. I guess, that currently all of the developers and advanced users are either on the mailing list or using the

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2004-12-03 Thread Mike Cox
Jan Wieck wrote: On 12/3/2004 3:32 PM, Woodchuck Bill wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joshua D. Drake) wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: So the current state of affairs is that we have the gated, official pgsql.* newsgroups, and the comp.* stuff is not gated in either direction? Yes.

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2004-12-03 Thread Mike Cox
Mike Cox wrote: Jan Wieck wrote: On 12/3/2004 3:32 PM, Woodchuck Bill wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joshua D. Drake) wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: So the current state of affairs is that we have the gated, official pgsql.* newsgroups, and the comp.* stuff is not gated in either

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was:

2004-12-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Mike Cox wrote: If you want more news servers to carry pgsql.*, consider emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED], and request them to carry pgsql.*. I've done one better ... I email'd and arranged a direct peerage between our servers, so that the groups are there, and all articles

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql

2004-12-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Christopher Browne wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Wieck) wrote: Since the mailing list to comp.databases.postgresql.general gating was stopped over a week ago, there has been zero communication on that newsgroup. I guess, that currently all of the developers and advanced users

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2004-12-02 Thread Mike Cox
Marc G. Fournier From: wrote: Mike Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marc G. Fournier From: wrote: The pgsql.* hierarchy is a not a private one, it is a public one carried by several of the large usenet servers. Doesn't private denote a hierarchy in its own domain such as microsoft.*, and

Re: [GENERAL] 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)

2004-12-02 Thread Mike Cox
Marc G. Fournier From: wrote: Mike Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.databases.postgresql This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the worldwide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup