On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 09:02:04AM +, Gregory Stark wrote:
Oh, and incidentally the problem with WARNING is that this is DML which could
potentially be executing hundreds or thousands of times per minute. A WARNING
is effectively an ERROR.
Good point. Also, the sort of case where you're
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:31:17PM -0500, Merlin Moncure wrote:
for historical record, this comment (subject not directly related to
the OP) was probably this:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org/msg62562.html
Bingo. Thanks!
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On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 01:47:23AM +, Gregory Stark wrote:
Huh, I was all set to post an example of a useful application of it but then
apparently I'm wrong and it doesn't work:
I dimly remember some discussion of this issue once before, maybe a year
ago. My memory isn't what it was, and I
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:06:35PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
of a negative limit, it's meeting its spec. If you want to throw an
error for negative limit, shouldn't you logically also throw an error
Should it be a WARNING?
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On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:01:43PM -0500, Jonah H. Harris wrote:
Man, maybe my mad Google skillz are not as mad as I thought :(
Hey, I worked in a library some years ago, when Google was just a googlet,
and I couldn't find it either. It's a dim memory, note. Which could mean
artifact. I'm
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 12:14:43PM +0100, Zeugswetter Andreas ADI SD wrote:
Uniqueness is currently perfectly practical, when the unique index
contains
the column[s] that is/are used in a non overlapping partitioning scheme.
Well, yes, assuming you have no bugs. Part of the reason I want the
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 12:58:11PM +0100, Zeugswetter Andreas ADI SD wrote:
Wouldn't one very substantial requirement of such storage be to
have it independent of db version, or even db product? Keeping
old hardware and software around can be quite expensive.
This was one of the explicit
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:07:57PM +, Simon Riggs wrote:
Enforcing uniqueness with a global index has a number of disadvantages.
This is why I was trying to talk about constraints rather than global
indexes. Just because we happen to implement them that way today does not
mean that such
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 11:12:46AM +, Simon Riggs wrote:
Read-Only Tables
In the past when this topic came up, there was some discussion of doing this
at a level somewhere below the table horizon. There are a number of nasty
limitations for partitions currently (not the
is the time to list some specific performance areas you want to
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in for bridged packets? Are you 100.0% sure?
I dunno, but I do know that I'd test it before I started doing it :)
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doesn't fail either of these.
From what I can see upthread, it fails 1 and possibly 2. Given that
we don't seem to know _why_ it is forbidden, there could well be a
case under 2 is a problem, and we haven't thought of it.
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don't care to pursue.
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, and adding incremental changes
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significant additional surprises (and therefore delays). I am no
code expert, though; I just wanted to be sure there's consensus on
the simplicity of the changes.
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 10:43:23AM -0400, Chris Browne wrote:
The right resolution to this is not, a priori, evident yet.
_A posteriori_, though, it seems to me the right resolution is don't
do that ;-)
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, but on a production system, you'd violate the semantics of 2PC
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But how do you know which file to delete? Is it keyed to the
transaction identifier or something?
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the commitment you made before crash when you accepted
a PREPARE TRANSACTION is going to be gone, which violates the 2PC
rules.
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. I think it should be regarded as Dead, Jim.
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something like that. Using this approach, packagers can also
continue to do what they want.
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think it's a bad thing that you
run superuser-type commands without reading the manual, and then get
a badly-secured system. (The idea here, incidentally, is not to
replace the initdb-time option, but to set the default of the initdb
command.)
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When my
that Tom's original suggestion was at least a
HINT, which seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:55:56AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
where the HINT gets appended if there's something after the integer but
it doesn't look like any of the allowed units. Objections?
Sounds like a good idea to me.
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is what the proposal so far sounds like to me.
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Do you mean change the OS settings or something else? (I'm not
sure it's true in any case, because shared memory kernel settings
have to be fiddled with in many instances, but I thought I'd ask for
clarification.)
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, but maybe
others have thought about some of these things. I haven't read the
draft, note.)
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-syslog-protocol-20
There's also the discussion of reliability in RFC 3195:
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3195.txt
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learn more of the code in each cycle. I think this is similar to a
previous suggestion someone made about mentored review, but it
doesn't require formal mentoring for it to get started.
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. PostgreSQL has a history with remarkably
few of those blunders, and I'd hate to give that up.
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that would tell one which spans of data are candidates for the
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) I used to do this as a
matter of completeness, and never had a collision.
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On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 11:43:24AM -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Andrew Sullivan wrote:
As a data point, some time ago (7.2 days) I used to do this as a
matter of completeness, and never had a collision.
The point I at least have been trying to make is that extensions
generally (e.g
with this too, I guess, to solve for conflict
cases, but that seems like the sort of decision that needs to be
pushed down to policy level.
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of several applications
for SASL/GSSAPI where something weaker will simply not do; in the
absence of the proposed functionality, I simply wouldn't be able to
use Postgres for those applications.
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for many users, and the change no longer signifies an actual change
to underlying functionality, though, it seems worth the pain to me.
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don't see
it ATM, I guess because the URL isn't chosen yet?) We get so many
questions about what replication system that I'm sure people are
looking for outlines.
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in the FAQ fwiw). Once it is in place, it will be stable
though.
Surely this is what redirects were invented for, no?
http://www.postgresql.org/replication redirects to [stable magic URL]
Put the former in the docs.
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On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 12:29:18PM -0400, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
The slides, all the photos, and even the audio are, I've been
assured, going to get cleared up in the next few days.
Well, those were some very long days, but it seems a good time to
note that the slides and audio (all that we
on the way, but we don't have them yet. Someone is
reportedly doing some sort of audio magic to improve the sound.
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maintain is that it is a flat text
file, so I can update it in seconds.
If a wiki doesn't work, then surely a CVS repository with the flat
file in it would? That'd be easy enough to post weekly or something,
no?
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an immediate result, and be annoyed when
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/features/whatever to me to watch? Would that help? (I don't
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wanted.)
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plenty of statistics math kicking around that
allows one to discover such relationships, and they have the benefit
of not being by definition a way to work around the optimiser.
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relationships in the system in such a way that the optimizer can
learn to use that information. _That_ seems to me to be a big
improvement, because it can be taken into consideration along with
relationships that emerge from the statistics, that the DBA may not
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many cycles keeping on top of this. Or maybe I just
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into this latter category.
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when talking to an 8.2 or later server.
Thoughts? Is this something to tackle during beta, or must we put it
off till 8.3?
It sounds to me like a very nice idea that has to wait for the next
cycle. Just getting agreement on the categories will take time and
cycles, no?
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On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 12:59:36PM -0700, Joe Conway wrote:
In that case, what about things on gborg too?
Yes, same idea. I don't care where the project _lives_; the
important thing is its integration with PostgreSQL (and its quality).
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When my
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replicate to an old 8.0.x back end as well. If 8.1 doesn't work for
you, you just MOVE everything back to the 8.0.x back end, and you're
golden.
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in the new system. But in the new
system, you can have just one of those flags by itself, and there's
no obvious way to preserve that data when moving back to the old
protocol. If we never have that sort of case with the binary
formats, then what you propose ought to work.
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to make an
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Best,
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summarise.
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of resources.
Unfortunately, there's no standards-compliant way to drop such
connections on the floor instead of erroring, once you've accepted
the mail.
Better to reject at the time of connection, which is what the
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lucky, and hit it.
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your help. Please
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UNIX does things: small tools that each do
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then I'd argue for erroring, on the same grounds of what I say above.
But otherwise, I think you could ignore it.
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(by definition) it's a modular
extension.
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wouldn't be surprised if they'd wired fsync directly to
something else; but I can hardly believe it'd be faster than any
other option. (Mind, we were using Veritas filesyste with this, as
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a bit of time preparing for it.
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be included in desktop
systems -- but enabled-by-default for many of these things seems to
me to be too dangerous.
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I remember when computers were frustrating because they *did* exactly what
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system.
Indeed. But that doesn't mean that the principle isn't sound for
both cases. I haven't seen an argument against that yet.
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have been so few problems with 8.0. If every dot-zero release of
every product were this good, people wouldn't be so gun-shy about
upgrades.
You folks should be extremely proud of yourselves. Good work.
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for the users
that cryptic support by someone whos is reading a script and who's
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. The relief is limited, however, and requires
certain hoop-jumping which is sort of tiresome. Unless, of course,
you have a large, full time legal staff and you're already a
multinational.
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from IBM
demanding the removal of all offending code from the Net? The code
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I think I may consult with one.)
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be pleased with the implementation.
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 02:58:33PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ahead and release with it anyway. IBM would justifiably jump on us
for that as a result.
With what? They have no patent, yet, and may never have one. If the
patent were already issued
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 02:48:46PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
I think there is zero probability of being sued by IBM in the near
future.
They won't sue the project. They'll send corporate users a bill,
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