Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-25 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 06:39:25PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: perusing a mailbox again. We have unfortunately been badly underprepared for this. Surely that there is an emerging consensus to that effect means that it's not as unfortunate as it might be? I seem to recall the original

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-25 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 06:39:25PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: perusing a mailbox again. We have unfortunately been badly underprepared for this. Surely that there is an emerging consensus to that effect means that it's not as unfortunate as it

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-25 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 06:39:25PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: perusing a mailbox again. We have unfortunately been badly underprepared for this. Surely that there is an emerging consensus to that effect means

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Andrew Dunstan wrote: Surely that there is an emerging consensus to that effect means that it's not as unfortunate as it might be? I seem to recall the original announcement suggesting this was an experiment. I wouldn't expect the first couple rounds to go without a hitch; as long as

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: [ Discussion about making infrastructure downtime more visible to people.] Right now, when email is down, I just start IM'ing people. A more structured system would help me. Some people would say a more structured approach to patch/bug tracking would help

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: This is an interesting observation that deserves to be discussed separately, and relates to the patch queue. Many people want to know what is happening with the patch queue but having better reporting doesn't seem to help much the people who are actually processing the

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: This is an interesting observation that deserves to be discussed separately, and relates to the patch queue. Many people want to know what is happening with the patch queue but having better reporting doesn't seem to help much the people who

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also I don't know what patches we have for the next commitfest. I would gladly give some time to put up a Wiki page to list the patches for the next commitfest. Would that be helpful? Uh, I don't think we have any patches for the next commit fest yet.

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: I did manage to find actual patches, but I had then to resort to my own mailbox to get the actual patch to apply and review. You can download an mbox of the entire queue if that helps. Ah, yeah, that's what I did. Also I don't know what

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also I don't know what patches we have for the next commitfest. I would gladly give some time to put up a Wiki page to list the patches for the next commitfest. Would that be helpful? Uh, I don't think we have any patches for the

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: I did manage to find actual patches, but I had then to resort to my own mailbox to get the actual patch to apply and review. You can download an mbox of the entire queue if that helps. Ah, yeah, that's what I did.

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Alvaro Herrera wrote: Also I don't know what patches we have for the next commitfest. I would gladly give some time to put up a Wiki page to list the patches for the next commitfest. Would that be helpful? Yes. My experience is similar to yours. I'm not prepared to spend hours

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Gregory Stark
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alvaro Herrera wrote: I'm not sure I follow. I tried last week to give some hours for patch review. What actually happened was that I had to wade through a ton of stuff, skipping patches that were already applied, threads that were purely

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Tom Lane
Gregory Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am i looking at the right list though? The one I'm looking at still starts with a patch to which Tom commented This is superseded by a later submission which I think has been there since pretty much the start of the commitfest. Yeah, there is still a

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Gregory Stark wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alvaro Herrera wrote: I'm not sure I follow. I tried last week to give some hours for patch review. What actually happened was that I had to wade through a ton of stuff, skipping patches that were already applied,

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Gregory Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am i looking at the right list though? The one I'm looking at still starts with a patch to which Tom commented This is superseded by a later submission which I think has been there since pretty much the start of the commitfest.

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Gregory Stark
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried this once already. I dumped the first page of Bruce's queue into a wiki page and laid it out in a column. But I wanted to add links back to the messages in the archive and ran into a problem with that. It also would have been a pain because

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Gregory Stark wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried this once already. I dumped the first page of Bruce's queue into a wiki page and laid it out in a column. But I wanted to add links back to the messages in the archive and ran into a problem with that. It also would

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: If we modify the archives to have a URL to go straight to a message-id and Bruce generated a list all on one page including comments and message-ids then I could process them all into a wiki page in a few hours. Ideally we could have a message id link to the

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: If we modify the archives to have a URL to go straight to a message-id and Bruce generated a list all on one page including comments and message-ids then I could process them all into a wiki page in a few hours. Ideally we could have

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Gregory Stark
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can get the message-ids by grep'ing the mbox file, and the comments are all: http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.us/msgid-* e.g. http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.us/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Huh, fascinating. it's actually an RSS feed. I can fool

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Gregory Stark wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can get the message-ids by grep'ing the mbox file, and the comments are all: http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.us/msgid-* e.g. http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.us/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Huh, fascinating. it's

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] New email list for emergency communications

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
bruce wrote: Gregory Stark wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can get the message-ids by grep'ing the mbox file, and the comments are all: http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.us/msgid-* e.g. http://js-kit.com/rss/momjian.us/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Huh,