Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-26 Thread Thomas Hallgren
PostgreSQL runs beautifully together with JBoss (or any other J2EE platform) using its current JDBC driver so the idea of a co-bundle is not far fetched at all. I'm not an advocate for a backend rewrite to Java. I'm however a firm believer that Java and the J2EE platform will become (if it isn't a

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-25 Thread Jan Wieck
Ivelin Ivanov wrote: That was uncalled for. Statements like this do not make the Postgres community any healthier. You don't have any benefit of pushing back Java users. On the other hand, can you imagine the reaction of the Java camp to an idea like "why not rewrite JBoss in Tcl and PL/Tcl so th

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-24 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
That was uncalled for. Statements like this do not make the Postgres community any healthier. You don't have any benefit of pushing back Java users. Ivelin --- Jean-Michel POURE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le Mardi 09 Décembre 2003 16:15, Ivelin Ivanov a > écrit : > > I think that a co-bundle

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-23 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Jean-Michel POURE wrote: Le Mardi 09 Décembre 2003 16:15, Ivelin Ivanov a écrit : I think that a co-bundle between an open source J2EE container like JBoss and a scalable database like PostgreSQL will be a blast. Why not cut all trees on earth and replace them with plastic? Before that, we

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-23 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Jean-Michel POURE said: > Le Mardi 09 Décembre 2003 16:15, Ivelin Ivanov a écrit : >> I think that a co-bundle between an open source J2EE >> container like JBoss and a scalable database like >> PostgreSQL will be a blast. > > Why not cut all trees on earth and replace them with plastic? Before > t

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-23 Thread Jean-Michel POURE
Le Mardi 09 Décembre 2003 16:15, Ivelin Ivanov a écrit : > I think that a co-bundle between an open source J2EE > container like JBoss and a scalable database like > PostgreSQL will be a blast. Why not cut all trees on earth and replace them with plastic? Before that, we need to port mankind DNA

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-11 Thread Thomas Hallgren
ithankar Cc: Postgresql Hackers Subject: Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java? Shridhar Daithankar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jokes and facts aside, I can't help it to think how better it would > have been, if postgresql was in C++. We could easily plug multiple &

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-11 Thread Doug McNaught
Shridhar Daithankar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jokes and facts aside, I can't help it to think how better it would > have been, if postgresql was in C++. We could easily plug multiple > implementations of underlying subsystems without mucking much in base > code.. That's easy to do in any lang

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-11 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
Andrew Dunstan wrote: Not to mention it would kill PostgreSQL's current speedy performance! Maybe, maybe not. Modern JVMs have much better performance characteristics than was once the case. Also, some of the things that Java buys you (memory management, threading, for example) might actually

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-10 Thread Merlin Moncure
Robert Treat wrote: > Someone did it but it didn't catch fire. I think what will catch fire in a big way is plphp. Managers will like an all php platform that is extremely capable and productive. Developers will enjoy php's natural syntax and agnostic approach to programming. PHP5, when it becom

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Dave Cramer
That is the current status, but this is a very active project and I believe the cvs version is much better. You are correct though it is an embedded db, and as such is quite cool. The reason I suggested it was more of an academic exercise for folks who wanted to see the issues with doing this in

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Robert Treat
On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 12:32, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > PL/Java would be way cool, though, and have > very significant appeal, and is very much worth doing, I believe. (Not > that I have the time to do it.) > http://pljava.sourceforge.net/ Someone did it but it didn't catch fire. Robert Treat --

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Hannu Krosing
Andrew Dunstan kirjutas T, 09.12.2003 kell 22:07: > Dave Cramer wrote: > > >Have a look at Axion for a pure java db > > > >http://axion.tigris.org/ > > > >Not as full featured,but still useful. > > > > > > > > Er, I take it that "not as full featured" is an example of meiosis :-) > > Here's wh

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Sailesh Krishnamurthy
We remain sceptical about writing an RDBMS in Java. The earlier version of TelegraphCQ was in Java and turned out to be a bit of a pain. Some more information: Mehul A. Shah, Samuel Madden, Michael J. Franklin, Joseph M. Hellerstein: Java Support for Data-Intensive Systems: Experiences Building

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ivelin Ivanov) writes: > Has this subject been discussed before? > I did not find any references to it in the archives. > > I think that a co-bundle between an open source J2EE > container like JBoss and a scalable database like > PostgreSQL will be a blast. > > There are several

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Dave Cramer wrote: Have a look at Axion for a pure java db http://axion.tigris.org/ Not as full featured,but still useful. Er, I take it that "not as full featured" is an example of meiosis :-) Here's what the web page says: Not (Yet) Supporte

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Hello, All due respect but this seems like a completely insane idea. Sincerely, Joshua Drake Ivelin Ivanov wrote: Has this subject been discussed before? I did not find any references to it in the archives. I think that a co-bundle between an open source J2EE container like JBoss and a scalab

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Dave Cramer
Have a look at Axion for a pure java db http://axion.tigris.org/ Not as full featured,but still useful. Dave On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 13:32, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > > >On December 9, 2003 12:15 pm, Neil Conway wrote: > > > > > >>P.S. While we're contemplating pies-in-t

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Andrew Dunstan
D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On December 9, 2003 12:15 pm, Neil Conway wrote: P.S. While we're contemplating pies-in-the-sky, I'd personally love to rewrite PostgreSQL in Objective Caml. I vote for InterCal. :-) Pick your poison from this site: http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/ (see es

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Neil Conway wrote: Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: As a Java programmer, I do agree that having a pure Java RDBMS system would be a Good Thing (tm) Are there any advantages that this would provide that we could get without investing so much effort? For example, PL/Java seems lik

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On December 9, 2003 12:15 pm, Neil Conway wrote: > P.S. While we're contemplating pies-in-the-sky, I'd personally love to > rewrite PostgreSQL in Objective Caml. I vote for InterCal. :-) -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]|vex}.net> | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Neil Conway
Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Frank Wiles wrote: >> Not to mention it would kill PostgreSQL's current speedy >> performance! > Maybe, maybe not. Modern JVMs have much better performance > characteristics than was once the case. Also, some of the things > that Java buys you (memory m

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Frank Wiles wrote: On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:15:41 -0800 (PST) Ivelin Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has this subject been discussed before? I did not find any references to it in the archives. I think that a co-bundle between an open source J2EE container like JBoss and a scalable database like

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Keith Bottner
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java? Has this subject been discussed before? I did not find any references to it in the archives. I think that a co-bundle between an open source J2EE container like JBoss and a scalable database like PostgreSQL will be a blast

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Doug McNaught
Ivelin Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has this subject been discussed before? > I did not find any references to it in the archives. I think the phrase "not gonna happen" was invented for this subject. :) -Doug ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Frank Wiles
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:15:41 -0800 (PST) Ivelin Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has this subject been discussed before? > I did not find any references to it in the archives. > > I think that a co-bundle between an open source J2EE > container like JBoss and a scalable database like > Postg

[HACKERS] PostgreSQL port to pure Java?

2003-12-09 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Has this subject been discussed before? I did not find any references to it in the archives. I think that a co-bundle between an open source J2EE container like JBoss and a scalable database like PostgreSQL will be a blast. There are several well performing comercial Java dbs out there and there