Re: [Pharo-dev] CI Build Slaves ?

2014-02-12 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hi, Le 12 févr. 2014 à 00:08, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : Hi, Does anyone know when all CI Build Slaves will become available again ? Right now, I seems at least Windows is no longer there. It is a bit hard to do integrations like that. ah Windows ... Yes, they need to be restarted

Re: [Pharo-dev] I love the new catalog and now you can create the metadata easily :)

2014-02-12 Thread jannik laval
Thank you Stef. Phratch is up to date. Jannik 2014-02-11 8:24 GMT+01:00 p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be: Stef, Read on. To be successful you need to keep on trucking no matter what. #resilience #persistence #keeprunning

Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] GSoC: call for ideas

2014-02-12 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi: Here my proposals: Proposal 1: Library of Concurrent Programming Concepts The Ownership-based Metaobject Protocol [1] is an abstraction meant to allow an easy implementation of a wide range of concurrent programming concepts such as actors and STM. The goal would be to

[Pharo-dev] To improve Stef's mood...

2014-02-12 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi, we are now able to bootstrap the PharoKernel and get responsive image that is able to execute scripts and process 'eval' argument. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoKernel3.0-Bootstrap/ It has shrinked Unicode tables, has no network support, not everything is initialized well

[Pharo-dev] need some help with NBCallback related crashes

2014-02-12 Thread Danil Osipchuk
Hello all I'm currently playing with NativeBoost (a great thing to have) and pharo consistently crashes after running for a while. My impression is that crashes happen during GCs as if something moves under the installed callback. This may be also related to the libpcap itself, but how can I

Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] GSoC: call for ideas

2014-02-12 Thread btc
Stefan Marr wrote: Hi: Here my proposals: Proposal 1: Library of Concurrent Programming Concepts The Ownership-based Metaobject Protocol [1] is an abstraction meant to allow an easy implementation of a wide range of concurrent programming concepts such as actors and STM.

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-02-12 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30754 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 114dd0: 30754

2014-02-12 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 114dd0ec17caadee0346718df0f23dbf6a60807a https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/114dd0ec17caadee0346718df0f23dbf6a60807a Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

Re: [Pharo-dev] 100% CPU usage on image resume

2014-02-12 Thread Holger Hans Peter Freyther
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:19:48AM +0200, Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote: Hi, I saved an image and today I wanted to resume it. Everything comes up, for a second I can interact with it (e.g. move a window) but then the pharo VM goes to 100% CPU usage. I let it run while writing this email

Re: [Pharo-dev] [gsoc-mentors] GSoC: call for ideas

2014-02-12 Thread Camille Teruel
Hello, Here are my proposals, == Title: Slots, batteries included Context: Pharo has recently introduced a model for first-class class layouts and instance variables (slots). This model will permit to customize the memory layout of instances of

Re: [Pharo-dev] 100% CPU usage on image resume

2014-02-12 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Sorry, but the details matter a lot: Which image version, vm version, os ? You can use the System Reporter tool for this. Image - /Users/sven/Develop/Smalltalk/Pharo-Bootstrap.image Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30750 Unnamed Virtual Machine ---

Re: [Pharo-dev] To improve Stef's mood...

2014-02-12 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Excellent Pavel! Will all this be demonstrated at ESUG? Alexandre Le 12-02-2014 à 3:57, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi, we are now able to bootstrap the PharoKernel and get responsive image that is able to execute scripts and process 'eval' argument.

Re: [Pharo-dev] To improve Stef's mood...

2014-02-12 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
if all goes well, all of that will be demonstrated (and used) in pharo 4 :D Esteban On 12 Feb 2014, at 14:59, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Excellent Pavel! Will all this be demonstrated at ESUG? Alexandre Le 12-02-2014 à 3:57, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] To improve Stef's mood...

2014-02-12 Thread Pavel Krivanek
It's Guille's work so it depends on him :-) If everything will go well, Pharo 4 will be already use it in time of ESUG. ;-) Cheers, -- Pavel 2014-02-12 14:59 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com: Excellent Pavel! Will all this be demonstrated at ESUG? Alexandre Le

Re: [Pharo-dev] 100% CPU usage on image resume

2014-02-12 Thread Holger Hans Peter Freyther
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 02:49:16PM +0100, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Hi, Sorry, but the details matter a lot: Which image version, vm version, os ? You can use the System Reporter tool for this. Image - /home/ich/Downloads/ss7-tests.image Pharo2.0 Latest update: #20615 Virtual

Re: [Pharo-dev] 100% CPU usage on image resume

2014-02-12 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Holger, On 12 Feb 2014, at 15:09, Holger Hans Peter Freyther hol...@freyther.de wrote: Does this happen with a virgin image ? Probably not, what code did you load ? I don't know. There is my code in the backtrace and it is available in the OsmoCore/OsmoLogging package. The code is doing:

Re: [Pharo-dev] To improve Stef's mood...

2014-02-12 Thread Tudor Girba
This is fantastic news! Thank you very much for all this work! Doru On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.comwrote: It's Guille's work so it depends on him :-) If everything will go well, Pharo 4 will be already use it in time of ESUG. ;-) Cheers, -- Pavel

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fosdem Videos and Pharo. 4 presentation

2014-02-12 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Ben wrote: Torsten Bergmann wrote: sent [..] using a Pharo driven mobile phone That sounds interesting! Nothing special - just time travelling ;) Bye T.

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] Spec documentation in PFTE book finished

2014-02-12 Thread Johan Fabry
Hi all, I am happy to announce that Ben and I finished the documentation of Spec for the Pharo For The Enterprise book. This documentation is up-to-date with the latest version of Spec, and is focused towards people wanting to use it and even extend it (in contrast to the academic papers which

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Spec documentation in PFTE book finished

2014-02-12 Thread Clara Allende
Nice, just what I was looking for :) Thank you very much! On 12 February 2014 12:08, Johan Fabry jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl wrote: Hi all, I am happy to announce that Ben and I finished the documentation of Spec for the Pharo For The Enterprise book. This documentation is up-to-date with the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playing an mp3

2014-02-12 Thread Noury Bouraqadi
Thanks Jannik! @Sean why did you chose to use FMOD and not use the PharoExtras/Sound? What are features that you are missing? Noury On 11 févr. 2014, at 16:07, jannik laval wrote: Ok the description is not good. In phratch, I can load MP3. Jannik 2014-02-11 15:30 GMT+01:00 Noury

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 12 Feb 2014, at 14:54, askoh as...@askoh.com wrote: The recent arguments in Smalltalk made me have an Eureka moment on why Smalltalk is not popular. Smalltalk attracts brilliant people. But these brilliant people scare others away. Instead of Showing How, they Show Off. Instead of being

[Pharo-dev] R: Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread Lorenzo Schiavina
+1 -Messaggio originale- Da: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] Per conto di askoh Inviato: mercoledì 12 febbraio 2014 14:55 A: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Oggetto: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular? The recent arguments in Smalltalk made me have an Eureka moment

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread kilon alios
frankly I find the community here, extremely friendly , well motivated, reasonable and humble. And I dont let a couple of incidents per year change my mind of what happens here on a daily basis. Smalltalk is unpopular because it never had a big company behind it or a good marketing strategy. 99%

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Regarding TIOBE and popularity: http://astares.blogspot.de/2006/07/stupid-metrics.html

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread J.F. Rick
Well, there are some serious reasons that Smalltalk is not currently so popular. Here are a few: (1) It used to be expensive. That kept it from being adopted initially. That may no longer be the case but, once the reputation is ruined, it is hard for people to give it a second chance. (2) There is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread btc
hi kilon, Thanks for your words. I particularly like them since you've come recently to Smalltalk after a number of other languages. There is some interesting discussion of this topic at [1] which indicate a predominance of non-technical issues and technical issues that don't apply today.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playing an mp3

2014-02-12 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
On Feb 12, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Noury Bouraqadi-2 [via Smalltalk] ml-node+s1294792n4743043...@n4.nabble.com wrote: @Sean why did you chose to use FMOD and not use the PharoExtras/Sound? What are features that you are missing? I guess because I didn't know it played mp3s ;) Also, I wanted to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Excellent points. Facing most of them on the Obj-C, Java, and PHP fronts. Now, in this age of cloud/bigdata/hadoop etc, there is one place where we could make it shine: web api automation scripting. Yes, Ruby and Python can do that too, but... with things like ZnClient and explore abilities,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread Sebastian Sastre
great topic Time to upvote outside our niche? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7225808 On Feb 12, 2014, at 3:06 PM, b...@openinworld.com wrote: hi kilon, Thanks for your words. I particularly like them since you've come recently to Smalltalk after a number of other languages.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread Igor Stasenko
too bad, this is not forum, where you can stick certain topics on top.. because this one reoccurring on a regular basis and contributes nothing to answering the question :) but let me try to answer Why Smalltalk is not popular? because it's not. :P On 12 February 2014 18:40, Sebastian

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-02-12 15:10 GMT-03:00 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com: too bad, this is not forum, where you can stick certain topics on top.. because this one reoccurring on a regular basis and contributes nothing to answering the question :) but let me try to answer Why Smalltalk is not popular?

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 80399f: 30755

2014-02-12 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 80399fb87096215524136eec52dae22fc2278808 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/80399fb87096215524136eec52dae22fc2278808 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Will could be a push or wishful thinking so I agree on that it will not help directly. Maybe is time to watch Merchants of Cool ? https://archive.org/details/PbsFrontlineMerchantsOfCool It has everything to do with convenience and making teens fell super powers If enhancing the product's

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Igor Stasenko wrote Why Smalltalk is not popular? because it's not. That can't be right… I'm going to have to check your math ;) p.s. I was surprised we were able to keep this thread to so few posts. Discussing this question is Smalltalk's version of discussing the weather in elevators -

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Smalltalk is not popular?

2014-02-12 Thread Marcus Denker
On 12 Feb 2014, at 20:24, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Igor Stasenko wrote Why Smalltalk is not popular? because it's not. That can't be right… I'm going to have to check your math ;) p.s. I was surprised we were able to keep this thread to so few posts. Discussing

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Spec documentation in PFTE book finished

2014-02-12 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Thanks a lot, Johan Ben, this is great work ! On 12 Feb 2014, at 16:08, Johan Fabry jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl wrote: Hi all, I am happy to announce that Ben and I finished the documentation of Spec for the Pharo For The Enterprise book. This documentation is up-to-date with the latest

[Pharo-dev] [OT] Speed of light 6-2-2014

2014-02-12 Thread Torsten Bergmann
some quotes: Borrowed largely (or shamelessly copied) from Smalltalk’s message sending syntax ... Categories or through runtime functions (more on those soon) itself, but Objective C’s objects pale in comparison to those of a Smalltalk-like environment, where objects are always live and

[Pharo-dev] PostID success story video

2014-02-12 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Anyone able to add the PostID Software Development Toolkit (created using Pharo at Pinesoft) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izg_Dr2Cg7kfeature=youtu.be to the success story page at http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories

Re: [Pharo-dev] PostID success story video

2014-02-12 Thread Marcus Denker
I added it to the todo… will do it some of the next days as a news entry, too. On 13 Feb 2014, at 00:17, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Anyone able to add the PostID Software Development Toolkit (created using Pharo at Pinesoft)

Re: [Pharo-dev] 100% CPU usage on image resume

2014-02-12 Thread Holger Hans Peter Freyther
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 03:31:56PM +0100, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Holger, Dear Sven, thanks a lot for your answer. The entire process list is below. My assumption is that the fireTimers: method is actually being executed. The best thing I found was to use SIGUSR1 to sample which