Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-05 Thread Thierry Goubier
2014-12-05 8:35 GMT+01:00 Max Leske : > > > On 05 Dec 2014, at 08:02, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Am 04.12.2014 um 23:31 schrieb Thierry Goubier < > thierry.goub...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'm just wondering. > >> > >> Would it work to have a package format based on

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-05 Thread Guillermo Polito
I will summon Martin and Mariano here :). Introducing fuel in the loading infrastructure had so far AFAIK two different experimental setups: - tanker: a package completely written in fuel - mixing tanker/fuel with monticello. However, the results were not so promising I remember. Apparently when

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-05 Thread Thierry Goubier
2014-12-05 10:55 GMT+01:00 Guillermo Polito : > I will summon Martin and Mariano here :). > > Introducing fuel in the loading infrastructure had so far AFAIK two > different experimental setups: > - tanker: a package completely written in fuel > Oh, I missed that one, yes. I remember the name.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Semaphore seems to timeout prematurely

2014-12-05 Thread Ben Coman
Jan Vrany wrote: Hi there, I have encountered a situation where semaphore timeouts prematurely when run in "non-interactive" mode (eval cmdline handler). Setup (script prepare.sh) 1) Fresh Pharo image (3.0 / 4.0, both exhibits the same behaviour) 2) Evaluate: == Smalltalk at: #WaitBlock

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo+Git cons?

2014-12-05 Thread Ben Coman
Thierry Goubier wrote: 2014-12-04 23:59 GMT+01:00 Eliot Miranda >: I'm also delighted that work like Chris Muller's version server is out there. This is very nicely integrated to allow me to find out which package versions contain versions of a part

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-05 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > I will summon Martin and Mariano here :). > > Introducing fuel in the loading infrastructure had so far AFAIK two > different experimental setups: > - tanker: a package completely written in fuel > This one is the one I explain below. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-05 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianop...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Guillermo Polito < > guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I will summon Martin and Mariano here :). >> >> Introducing fuel in the loading infrastructure had so far AFAIK t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-05 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 05 Dec 2014, at 14:09, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com Hey Mariano, Welcome back ! (Not that you left, but I read your latest blog entry) We miss(ed) your expertise and your work. Regards, Sven

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-05 Thread Thierry Goubier
2014-12-05 14:07 GMT+01:00 Mariano Martinez Peck : > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Guillermo Polito < > guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I will summon Martin and Mariano here :). >> >> Introducing fuel in the loading infrastructure had so far AFAIK two >> different experimental setups:

[Pharo-dev] RBSmalllintContext>>primitiveComputerLiterals

2014-12-05 Thread Ben Coman
I just noticed RBSmalllintContext>>primitiveComputerLiterals doesn't seem to follow the typical pattern for that naming convention. Without digging to really understand it, I just wondered if it maybe should be called #computeLiteralsForPrimitive, or #basicComputerLiterals, or something else..

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] d5c6eb: 40400

2014-12-05 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: d5c6eb2010fdff8d389e4a67eaa9cd586142c93c https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/d5c6eb2010fdff8d389e4a67eaa9cd586142c93c Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-12-05 (Fri, 05 Dec 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-12-05 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40400 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Semaphore seems to timeout prematurely

2014-12-05 Thread Jan Vrany
On Fri, 2014-12-05 at 20:52 +0800, Ben Coman wrote: > Jan Vrany wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I have encountered a situation where semaphore timeouts > > prematurely when run in "non-interactive" mode (eval cmdline handler). > > > > Setup (script prepare.sh) > > > > 1) Fresh Pharo image (3.0 /

Re: [Pharo-dev] RBSmalllintContext>>primitiveComputerLiterals

2014-12-05 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi, maybe it is wrong, but the long term goal is to remove contexts completely, as it introduces one more custom environment implementation. Uko > On 05 Dec 2014, at 17:40, Ben Coman wrote: > > > I just noticed RBSmalllintContext>>primitiveComputerLiterals > doesn't seem to follow the typic

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo+Git cons?

2014-12-05 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
> Am 04.12.2014 um 23:59 schrieb Eliot Miranda : > > Hi Thierry, > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Thierry Goubier > wrote: > > > 2014-12-03 4:16 GMT+01:00 Eliot Miranda >: > > Yes, but *I* care about the Monticello metada

[Pharo-dev] Repeatable VM crash

2014-12-05 Thread Hilaire
When playing with equality in a class hierarchy I have repeatable VM crash. It is today Pharo VM 3.9-7 from Jenkins and Pharo3. Am I using an out of date VM? Crashdump enclosed Hilaire -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu Segmentation fault Fri Dec 5 21:31:32 2014 /h

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Twittering Smalltalk

2014-12-05 Thread Tudor Girba
+1. Doru On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Thushar G R wrote: > Thank you. > > Made my day. > thushar > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianop...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Very nice indeed to read that. >> >> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe >> wro

Re: [Pharo-dev] Repeatable VM crash

2014-12-05 Thread Hilaire
Hi again, I must add it occurs from a test or when comparing something like this in the Workspace: (CGDonator firstname: 'Eric' lastname: 'Dupont') = (CGParticipant firstname: 'Eric' lastname: 'Dupont') I get a false returned value printed in the Workspace, then VM crash. Thanks Hilaire Le 0

[Pharo-dev] Problem copy pasting from internet browser to GTPlayground

2014-12-05 Thread kilon alios
I try to copy this code here https://www.facebook.com/ObjectProfile/posts/742756179144315 and paste it to Playground to do it. It inserts illegal characters. I am on MacOS Yosemite and tried Chrome and Safari. Workspace also has same issue. Is there a solution to this ? Copy pasting code from a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Repeatable VM crash

2014-12-05 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Hilaire, can you try and concoct an image that crashes from start-up without operator intervention? What I mean is that if the expression that crashes is the one you give then in a workspace evaluate Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true. (CGDonator firstname: 'Eric' lastname: 'D

[Pharo-dev] TextModel>>#aboutToStyle:

2014-12-05 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
While we're creating an API, it would be great to make #aboutToStyle: something more intuitive. Somehow this questionable (always confusing to me anyway) bit leaked out from the Morphic implementation underneath. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/TextMode

[Pharo-dev] Slow TreeListMorph

2014-12-05 Thread Nicolai Hess
Anyone knows for what this is used: TreeListMorph>> addSubmorphsAfter: parentMorph fromCollection: aCollection allowSorting: sortBoolean "Update the font on each morph." |answer| answer := super addSubmorphsAfter: parentMorph fromCollection: aCollection allowSorting: sortBoolean. "--

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo+Git cons?

2014-12-05 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > Thierry Goubier wrote: > >> >> 2014-12-04 23:59 GMT+01:00 Eliot Miranda > >: >> >> I'm also delighted that work like Chris Muller's version server is >> out there. This is very nicely integrated to allow m

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slow TreeListMorph

2014-12-05 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2014-12-06 0:27 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess : > Anyone knows for what this is used: > > TreeListMorph>> > addSubmorphsAfter: parentMorph fromCollection: aCollection allowSorting: > sortBoolean > "Update the font on each morph." > > |answer| > answer := super addSubmorphsAfter: parentMorph f

Re: [Pharo-dev] GetOpt

2014-12-05 Thread stepharo
I liked that you propose yourself also to edit the zeroConf chapter. Thanks. I must admit that I'M FED UP to feel the only one with Sven that seems to be able to write a documentation in our wonderful community. So at least changes should be retrofitted in the available doc. Do not worry LaTex i

Re: [Pharo-dev] 12854 TestRunner>>categorySelected hard coded zero

2014-12-05 Thread stepharo
sometimes this is because when you click on the other list you need to reset or something like that? Le 2/12/14 16:07, Ben Coman a écrit : Anyone know why TestRunner>>categorySelected was hard coded to return zero? It breaks shift-click multiple selection in TestRunner. Seems we've lived wi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour-core maybe missing from Pharo40/main

2014-12-05 Thread stepharo
Le 3/12/14 10:08, Marcus Denker a écrit : Yes, seemingly we lost again the repos of external packages... this is a bug, something in the integraton process resets the reopsitories. Yes because else we can have dangling refs (you remember the mess in Squeak3.9). Now this is why we should have

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

2014-12-05 Thread stepharo
Hi Juraj Excellent. I would like to have a nice way to import ttf and install not an horrible method full of binary data but a method that load a ttf and that creates font description directly. And as Pharo we should have a simple font ttf file server. Stef Le 2/12/14 15:02, Juraj Kubelka a é

Re: [Pharo-dev] GetOpt

2014-12-05 Thread stepharo
IMO all that needs to be fine is to take a careful look at start-up and eliminate costly but unnecessary activities. You should easily be able to get startup times down to tens if milliseconds on modem hardware. I always wanted to have a pharoDaemon.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo+Git cons?

2014-12-05 Thread stepharo
Hi eliot I would like to check the ressources addition to MC. In the past I tried to harvest the refactorings did by chris in MC but I failed because of lack of patience and time. Now can you tell a word about the version server? Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] GetOpt

2014-12-05 Thread stepharo
Can you be more concrete because I like what Camillo designed. Le 2/12/14 16:06, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit : EstebanLM wrote is cool. I would like to explore the possibility to replace our command line parser with getopt. You know… is more compatible at the end :) I find the implementation of o

[Pharo-dev] How can I specify the bindings when evaluating an expression?

2014-12-05 Thread stepharo
I would like to be able to express Compiler new bindings: { a -> 3. b -> 4}; evaluate: 'a + b'; result and get 7 How can I do that? Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] default fonts changed in Pharo 4.0

2014-12-05 Thread stepharo
It would be good to avoid to duplicate the font description as binary and the font description as object. It would be nice to also have a nice way to import font from the ttf description files. This is what we should put on a server not pharo method containaing binary that after creates object a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-05 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Max Leske wrote: > > > On 05 Dec 2014, at 08:02, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Am 04.12.2014 um 23:31 schrieb Thierry Goubier < > thierry.goub...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'm just wondering. > >> > >> Would it work to have a package for

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo+Git cons?

2014-12-05 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 7:31 PM, stepharo wrote: > Hi eliot > > I would like to check the ressources addition to MC. > In the past I tried to harvest the refactorings did by chris in MC but I > failed because of lack of patience and time. > Now can you tell a word about the version server? > I th

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello and Fuel

2014-12-05 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Max Leske wrote: > >> >> > On 05 Dec 2014, at 08:02, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Am 04.12.2014 um 23:31 schrieb Thierry Goubier < >> thierry.goub...@gmail.com>: >> >> >> >> Hi all, >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] GetOpt

2014-12-05 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > Eliot Miranda wrote: > >> One if these, which Ben Coman's recent changes above my 64-bit >> microsecond clock should have fixed is a spin loop of up to a second to >> synchronize the second and millisecond clocks. >> > > Is this in the image or

[Pharo-dev] Announcements & inter-thread communication

2014-12-05 Thread Ben Coman
_BACKGROUND_ In relation to... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13182 "Refactor MCFileRepositoryInspector >> versionSearchAccept:" I am reviewing... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13007 "Cannot integrate a slice with monticello (red square in the UI)" and in general considering how

Re: [Pharo-dev] Repeatable VM crash

2014-12-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
yes, but the first step is to be sure you have the latest vm version :) Esteban > On 05 Dec 2014, at 22:37, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > Hi Hilaire, > > can you try and concoct an image that crashes from start-up without > operator intervention? What I mean is that if the expression that cra