Re: [Pharo-dev] 14606 Really Important bug - Can't see some variables values while debugging closure

2015-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > I got annoyed since a few times I thought I'd solved everything just the > issue looking at the manual examples of one issue, only to find I'd caused > the other case to fail. Also keeping track of all cases as I threw away > images with partial

Re: [Pharo-dev] 14606 Really Important bug - Can't see some variables values while debugging closure

2015-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
I got annoyed since a few times I thought I'd solved everything just the issue looking at the manual examples of one issue, only to find I'd caused the other case to fail. Also keeping track of all cases as I threw away images with partial solutions was awkward. So I turned the examples from all

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter

2015-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: > Hi Ben, >> >> >> This is quite a hidden and implicit key stroke. Regardless that I know >> I've used it before follow a tutorial, I forgot it. Since Spotter has a >> (which I like and think it could be pushed as a standard >> throughout t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter

2015-04-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Ben Coman wrote > One thing, can you remind me how when it shows 5/30 implementors I get a > list of all 30? One strange thing is that the arrow in "[category] x/yy ->" only appears in the top category, so you can't go to the second or third category and click it. - Cheers, Sean -- View thi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter

2015-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
Thanks Aliaksei. This is quite a hidden and implicit key stroke. Regardless that I know I've used it before follow a tutorial, I forgot it. Since Spotter has a (which I like and think it could be pushed as a standard throughout the system in Pharo 5), it might be useful for Pharo 4 if the Spott

Re: [Pharo-dev] 14606 Really Important bug - Can't see some variables values while debugging closure

2015-04-04 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-04-01 18:56 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman : > Issue 14606 [1] is tagged "Really Important" where evaluating > > | t1 t2 t3 t4 t5 t6 | > t1 := 1. > t2 := 2. > t3 := 3. > t4 := 4. > t5 := 5 . > t6 := 6. > [t5 := 50. > t6 := 60. > t3 + t4. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter

2015-04-04 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
Hi Ben, It's CMD+Shift+Right On Apr 5, 2015 2:23 AM, "Ben Coman" wrote: > Just a note, I went back to an old image and really miss the Spotter > workflow. > > One thing, can you remind me how when it shows 5/30 implementors I get a > list of all 30? I'm sure I've done this before but can't reme

[Pharo-dev] Spotter

2015-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
Just a note, I went back to an old image and really miss the Spotter workflow. One thing, can you remind me how when it shows 5/30 implementors I get a list of all 30? I'm sure I've done this before but can't remember. Perhaps this means its not obvious and maybe should appear in a "How To Use" s

Re: [Pharo-dev] Who maintains Aconcagua & Chalten?

2015-04-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Hernan Wilkinson-3 wrote > I answer you in the morning, contact me directly if you did not get the > answer Hi Hernan, I emailed you a few times. I'm afraid my messages have either gotten trapped in your spam filter or I have the wrong address. Let me know... - Cheers, Sean -- View this me

Re: [Pharo-dev] Downloading the latest 40 Image -> Error

2015-04-04 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
I think this has to do with CDN caching or cache invalidation. > On 04 Apr 2015, at 21:09, Max Leske wrote: > > Confirmed. > >> On 04 Apr 2015, at 20:46, Hernán Morales Durand >> wrote: >> >> FYI >> >> $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash >> --2015-04-04 18:41:59-- http://get.pharo.org/40

Re: [Pharo-dev] Downloading the latest 40 Image -> Error

2015-04-04 Thread Max Leske
Confirmed. > On 04 Apr 2015, at 20:46, Hernán Morales Durand > wrote: > > FYI > > $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash > --2015-04-04 18:41:59-- http://get.pharo.org/40+vm > > Resolving get.pharo.org... 128.93.162.72 > Connecting to

[Pharo-dev] Downloading the latest 40 Image -> Error

2015-04-04 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
FYI $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/40+vm | bash --2015-04-04 18:41:59-- http://get.pharo.org/40+vm Resolving get.pharo.org... 128.93.162.72 Connecting to get.pharo.org|128.93.162.72|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 2885 (2.8K) [text/html] Saving to: `STDOUT' 100

Re: [Pharo-dev] UpdatedPharoByExample for 3.0, 4.0, 5.0

2015-04-04 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
I agree 100% that we should keep separate book versions for the corresponding Pharo versions. Specifically: - Use the 'master' branch for the current stable version (4.0). Basically, the way things are right now. This at least won't break existing CI jobs (tests and PDF generation). - Have a 3.0 a

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM and .sources in separate dirs question

2015-04-04 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
Ok, that's awesome. Thank you for explaining! On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Max Leske wrote: > > On 03 Apr 2015, at 19:02, Dmitri Zagidulin wrote: > > Do you happen to know how it does it? (I wouldn't know where to look, in > the source code). Does it still work if you move the sources to ano

Re: [Pharo-dev] UpdatedPharoByExample for 3.0, 4.0, 5.0

2015-04-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
stepharo wrote > there is a huge time / energy investment problems. I don't see it. The simplest thing (which is 0 extra work AFAICT) would be to tag the last version before we start updating for 5.0 as something like 'Pharo-4-final'. Almost as easy would be to have a branch per version, so e.g. t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-04 Thread stepharo
doru it would be fun to have an even redder GTSpotter and some colored windows In a dark background it can be really "efficient" :) Stef Le 3/4/15 18:27, Tudor Girba a écrit : I wonder :) Doru On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe > wrote: Maybe th

Re: [Pharo-dev] UpdatedPharoByExample for 3.0, 4.0, 5.0

2015-04-04 Thread stepharo
there is no technical problem. there is a huge time / energy investment problems. We will reintroduce in pillar the possibility to run tests. and we will add support (should check what stephan did to get automatic scrneeshots). Stef Le 4/4/15 15:04, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit : Would it make se

Re: [Pharo-dev] UpdatedPharoByExample for 3.0, 4.0, 5.0

2015-04-04 Thread kilon alios
I agree it makes sense, we can use git tags , or branches. Having separate docs for every version is how it works for all other languages I have used. Its zero extra work. I dont know about the generation of pdfs though, I am not familair with CI / Jenkins and how easy it is to assign specific bui

[Pharo-dev] UpdatedPharoByExample for 3.0, 4.0, 5.0

2015-04-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Would it make sense to freeze the documentation for each image version? Maybe a branch per image? This way, people who choose/need to work with previous image versions have an accurate reference. From my limited Git experience it shouldn't be much extra work. - Cheers, Sean -- View this mess

Re: [Pharo-dev] Binding semantics of SystemDictionary

2015-04-04 Thread Max Leske
Bump… I really think this is something we should talk about… Otherwise I’ll open an issue on phogbugz. > On 01 Apr 2015, at 22:58, stepharo wrote: > > Please do not use Smalltalk at: > We will ban it for real! Good to know. I wasn’t aware of that. > > Stef > > Le 31/3/15 20:49, Max Leske a

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM and .sources in separate dirs question

2015-04-04 Thread Max Leske
> On 03 Apr 2015, at 19:02, Dmitri Zagidulin wrote: > > Do you happen to know how it does it? (I wouldn't know where to look, in the > source code). Does it still work if you move the sources to another > directory, from your current one? Does Pharo do a whole-disk search every > time? (Or ju

Re: [Pharo-dev] Freeze while running a loop

2015-04-04 Thread Gaurav Singh
Thanks Alain :) On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Alain Rastoul wrote: > Hi Gaurav, > > As said by Aliaksei, the problem is string concatenation with , > your example takes 33 secs on a core i7 3.3Ghz (quite some ms ;) ) > In Smalltalk, you handle that with streams (see Aliaksei example). > You ca

Re: [Pharo-dev] Freeze while running a loop

2015-04-04 Thread Alain Rastoul
Hi Gaurav, As said by Aliaksei, the problem is string concatenation with , your example takes 33 secs on a core i7 3.3Ghz (quite some ms ;) ) In Smalltalk, you handle that with streams (see Aliaksei example). You can also add objects to all types of collections, not only strings (Arrays etc). Yo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Forcing GTInspector to refresh

2015-04-04 Thread stepharo
Ok I found the icon. Now redoing for the third time my video Stef Hi I was doing a video on teaching how to build a simple counter and I would like to know how I can refresh the value of an instance variable in GT. I really hope that we will fix such kind of problem because it kills my fun

Re: [Pharo-dev] Magritte = Auto-GT Presentation

2015-04-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
Cool! Can you add a spec based editor for the object? ;) That woule be übernice, haha. Norbert > Am 04.04.2015 um 06:01 schrieb Sean P. DeNigris : > > gtInspectorMagritteIn: composite > >| table | >table := composite table >title: 'Magritte'; >display: [ self magri

[Pharo-dev] Forcing GTInspector to refresh

2015-04-04 Thread stepharo
Hi I was doing a video on teaching how to build a simple counter and I would like to know how I can refresh the value of an instance variable in GT. I really hope that we will fix such kind of problem because it kills my fun showing Pharo. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Magritte = Auto-GT Presentation

2015-04-04 Thread stepharo
Cool :) I still have on my endless todo to write a new chapter on magritte 3 :( Le 4/4/15 06:01, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit : gtInspectorMagritteIn: composite | table | table := composite table title: 'Magritte'; display: [ self magritteDes

Re: [Pharo-dev] MethodContextTest

2015-04-04 Thread Marcus Denker
Yes! > On 04 Apr 2015, at 08:41, Ben Coman wrote: > > As I understand it, MethodContext is not more, and now there is only Context. > > Should MethodContextTest be renamed ContextTest ?