Re: [Pharo-dev] Are these changes good enough

2015-05-01 Thread Peter Uhnák
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 7:44 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Could you send the license agreement and send it to us? Ha! I completely forgot about doing this. I'm just surprised that legally having somewhere written something like by contributing to blablabla you agree with license

Re: [Pharo-dev] build pharo vm on windows (old mingw package)

2015-05-01 Thread Merwan Ouddane
I've downloaded it twice and the archive is corrupted Regards Merwan On 01/05/2015 23:34, p...@highoctane.be wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e5ws36rxo2z19lf/pharo-vm.zip?dl=0 On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de mailto:nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-04-30

Re: [Pharo-dev] Are these changes good enough

2015-05-01 Thread Sergio Fedi
Yes In the site it says that it is preferable via surface mail. But a fax is good enough. Does this still hold true? (if so, I would rather send it via fax, or scanned, or another medium)

[Pharo-dev] [ANN]: Tiny Dev Tools for SimplePersistence and STON

2015-05-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
I often find myself writing the same boilerplate over and over for my basic persistence needs. My usual pattern is to serialize/materialize a class-side instance variable with accessors of the same name. Some time ago, I added the following to SimplePersistence (IIRC it gets loaded by default):

Re: [Pharo-dev] Next Pharo sprint Moose dojo

2015-05-01 Thread Sergio Fedi
Couple of questions: 1 - Since this start at 5 am (Buenos Aires Time, GMT -3) until what hour is the sprint? 2 - Is this event appropiate/useful for newbies to Pharo?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN]: Tiny Dev Tools for SimplePersistence and STON

2015-05-01 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sean P. DeNigris wrote I created the same in STON-Tools Of course I just realized that they clobber each other ha ha, so now its #simplePersist: and #stonPersist: - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Marcus Denker
But there is a second error: the mustBeBooleanInMagic: normally should work. (the VM executes the optimised construct — raised an exception — we recompile the expression with no optimisation - execute. There is tiny bug there (it should be #methodNode). I will commit a fix for that…

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread stepharo
Kind of because we got or: Boolean * block - Object and now we have Object * Object - Object I already discussed by emails too mcuh this point with marcus. Since we do not have even the start of a process to document the design rationale behind such decisions I will not discuss it.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Are these changes good enough

2015-05-01 Thread stepharo
Thanks Sergio Could you send the license agreement and send it to us? Stef Le 27/4/15 18:37, Sergio Fedi a écrit : Hi, I'm new to the Pharo community and recently installed Pharo 4.0. While using it I've found that the TestRunner didn't have coverage and after investigating a little I've

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Fuel version

2015-05-01 Thread Johannes Rasche Kreuzberg
Max, well the ConfigurationOfFuel in Pharo 3 does not know Fuel 1.9.4 and in Pharo 4 there is no ConfigurationOfFuel neither in the image (ConfigBrowser) nor on http://smalltalkhub.mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo40/main what's up? do I oversee somthing relevant ? Johannes Am 30.04.15 um 15:04

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread stepharo
Yes Le 1/5/15 11:52, Marcus Denker a écrit : On 01 May 2015, at 11:49, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 01 May 2015, at 11:46, stepharo steph...@free.fr mailto:steph...@free.fr wrote: We should at least have a rules stating pay attentino you

[Pharo-dev] Next Pharo sprint Moose dojo

2015-05-01 Thread Jean-Christophe Bach
Hello Pharoers, We propose a Pharo sprint / Moose dojo on Friday, 22nd May, starting at 10:00am. (Local Time Lille). It will be at the Inria Lille, Building B, third floor (RMoD offices). Remotely, you can join us on the official IRC channel #pharo on irc.freenode.net server. During the sprint,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Fuel version

2015-05-01 Thread Max Leske
On 01 May 2015, at 18:14, Johannes Rasche Kreuzberg johan...@rasche-kreuzberg.de wrote: Max, well the ConfigurationOfFuel in Pharo 3 does not know Fuel 1.9.4 and in Pharo 4 there is no ConfigurationOfFuel neither in the image (ConfigBrowser) nor on

Re: [Pharo-dev] build pharo vm on windows (old mingw package)

2015-05-01 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-04-30 11:33 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: aren’t you able to install an older version of gcc in your newer version of mingw? hm, downgrading the compiler was suprisingly easy. But I have still the same error. This is the gcc version information: Using built-in specs.

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01 May 2015, at 11:49, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 01 May 2015, at 11:46, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: We should at least have a rules stating pay attentino you use an optimised selector. Im not sure what should be form of the warning but we should make

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread stepharo
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15459

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01 May 2015, at 10:10, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Clement thanks for the information. I thought about that. From a language perspective what you describe is plain bad. Implementation should not creep in the language semantics. Yes, this is why we implemented the

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 30 Apr 2015, at 22:57, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 30 Apr 2015, at 21:47, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: In nautilus I get an error MNU: RBBlockNodemethod When I select several groups and select merge mergeGroups: aCollection aCollection

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread stepharo
We should at least have a rules stating pay attentino you use an optimised selector. Im not sure what should be form of the warning but we should make progress I see two cases - the dev uses a non optimized version and the warning tell him that it would be better to use the optimised

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Idea icon pack now in Configuration Browser

2015-05-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
is the “tiling window manager” is proved to work on Pharo 3. I don’t know what about Pharo 4… I suppose it will load. Esteban On 01 May 2015, at 11:49, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: Phil, can I ask what is the sidebar on the left? It looks interesting. Peter On Thu, Apr 30,

[Pharo-dev] Breakpoint of variable write

2015-05-01 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi, is it possible to do a halt whenever some instance variable is written? Because this week I’ve spent a lot of time debugging because something was setting some strange values to variables and it was hard to track that down. Uko

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread stepharo
Clement thanks for the information. I thought about that. From a language perspective what you describe is plain bad. Implementation should not creep in the language semantics. As a normal developer I do not want to know how I can redefine special optimized selectors. either the compiler

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread stepharo
Thanks. Le 30/4/15 22:57, Marcus Denker a écrit : On 30 Apr 2015, at 21:47, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: In nautilus I get an error MNU: RBBlockNodemethod When I select several groups and select merge mergeGroups: aCollection aCollection ifNotEmpty: [:groups || group |

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread stepharo
Marcus we should add a rule for the or: [b] Stef Le 30/4/15 22:57, Marcus Denker a écrit : On 30 Apr 2015, at 21:47, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: In nautilus I get an error MNU: RBBlockNodemethod When I select several groups and select merge mergeGroups: aCollection aCollection

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01 May 2015, at 10:08, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Marcus we who uld add a rule for the or: [b] Not possible as it is correct if the receiver is a boolean. Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01 May 2015, at 10:17, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 01 May 2015, at 10:10, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Clement thanks for the information. I thought about that. From a language perspective what you describe is plain bad. Implementation should not creep

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] f707f5: 50026

2015-05-01 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/5.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: f707f55ef5d8cd787ced538afba81e1b6088737f https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/f707f55ef5d8cd787ced538afba81e1b6088737f Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2015-05-01 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/50026 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01 May 2015, at 11:46, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: We should at least have a rules stating pay attentino you use an optimised selector. Im not sure what should be form of the warning but we should make progress why? I see two cases - the dev uses a non optimized version

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Idea icon pack now in Configuration Browser

2015-05-01 Thread Peter Uhnák
Phil, can I ask what is the sidebar on the left? It looks interesting. Peter On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, I fix it. please keep informing me the problems as they arise, is hard to test all the system to be sure :) Esteban On 30

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01 May 2015, at 11:48, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: To make the whole thing easier to understand we need to distinguish the two bugs. 1) or: is somehow special. No, it is not. We fixed that, but the fix was broken. See my other mail. I would add two different kind of

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread stepharo
To make the whole thing easier to understand we need to distinguish the two bugs. 1) or: is somehow special. No, it is not. We fixed that, but the fix was broken. See my other mail. I would add two different kind of rules to help people and slow the use of redefinition of special

Re: [Pharo-dev] build pharo vm on windows (old mingw package)

2015-05-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Did you tried this ? https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/blob/master/README-Win32.md (I wrote that thing a while ago). http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/Automated%20MinGW%20Installer/mingw-get-inst/ was where I got the env from. I've got a PharoVM built with gcc 4.8.1

Re: [Pharo-dev] build pharo vm on windows (old mingw package)

2015-05-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e5ws36rxo2z19lf/pharo-vm.zip?dl=0 On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-04-30 11:33 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: aren’t you able to install an older version of gcc in your newer version of mingw? hm,

Re: [Pharo-dev] build pharo vm on windows (old mingw package)

2015-05-01 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-05-01 23:05 GMT+02:00 p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be: Did you tried this ? https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/blob/master/README-Win32.md Yes, I already worked with mingw and setup a build environment (at that time it was with gcc 4.6.x) All went well and I build working

Re: [Pharo-dev] Breakpoint of variable write

2015-05-01 Thread Marcus Denker
On 01 May 2015, at 12:41, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi, is it possible to do a halt whenever some instance variable is written? Soon… I am working on it. Make a class TT with ivar ‘tt’, method tt tt := 1. Then we can define a meta-link to call Halt now”: | link

Re: [Pharo-dev] Breakpoint of variable write

2015-05-01 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Thanks Marcus! This will be very useful. Uko On 01 May 2015, at 12:51, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 01 May 2015, at 12:41, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi, is it possible to do a halt whenever some instance variable is written? Soon… I am working on it.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Breakpoint of variable write

2015-05-01 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 01/05/2015 12:51, Marcus Denker a écrit : On 01 May 2015, at 12:41, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi, is it possible to do a halt whenever some instance variable is written? Soon… I am working on it. Make a class TT with ivar ‘tt’, method tt tt := 1. Then we can

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Andrei Chis
Well, we need to have that discussion then, since we can't roll back: the slots are already there, and I guess that with the Meta links, we will have to do something about it. So, what would it take to improve the debugger? Since you can add meta links to any ast node the best approach

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 01/05/2015 13:43, Clément Bera a écrit : 2015-05-01 11:58 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com: Le 01/05/2015 11:50, Marcus Denker a écrit : On 01 May 2015, at 11:48, stepharo steph...@free.fr

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Clément Bera
2015-05-01 11:58 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com: Le 01/05/2015 11:50, Marcus Denker a écrit : On 01 May 2015, at 11:48, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: To make the whole thing easier to understand we need to distinguish the two bugs. 1) or: is somehow special.

[Pharo-dev] Proportional layout philosophy?

2015-05-01 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi, I want to change the size of my nautilus plugin, as I don’t need it always to be as big as it is by default and it takes too much space. But as soon as I use #hight: to change the hight, it gets set back. I guess it’s done by the layout, but I’m not sure, as putting halt somewhere in

Re: [Pharo-dev] Breakpoint of variable write

2015-05-01 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi, is it possible to do a halt whenever some instance variable is written? Because this week I’ve spent a lot of time debugging because something was setting some strange values to variables and it was hard to track

Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-05-01 Thread Clément Bera
2015-05-01 13:59 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com: Le 01/05/2015 13:43, Clément Bera a écrit : 2015-05-01 11:58 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com: Le 01/05/2015 11:50, Marcus Denker a écrit : On 01