Re: [Pharo-dev] A question on the catalog

2016-06-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > >> On 11 Jun 2016, at 08:53, Alistair Grant wrote: >> >> Hi Esteban, >> >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 02:52:46PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was doing a pass on the

Re: [Pharo-dev] IMPORTANT: Proposal to create a github team for Voyage and MongoTalk

2016-06-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On the subject on git lets make some things clear 1) You dont need github to use git, you can use any hosting service that can share your git folder like dropbox or your own personal server running pharo 2) No pharo github tool will ever replace github and giy gui tools, they have the community

Re: [Pharo-dev] A question on the catalog

2016-06-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
The emphasis here is "I dont think" so this is a personal assumption not a fact based theory. So I would not talk about evidence but indications , I have been an active participant of the pharo community for 4 years now. There are not many messages that I have missed in Pharo-dev or Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-dev] A question on the catalog

2016-06-11 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > I don't thinks it's a huge issue because most people use catalog as an > easy install and not to discover new packages. Do you have any evidence to back up "most people" claim? We don't have any good mechanisms to discover Pharo projects and catalog is frankly the most complete one (although

Re: [Pharo-dev] A question on the catalog

2016-06-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
First of all how many are undocumented ? Do we have any statistics ? Personally I don't thinks it's a huge issue because most people use catalog as an easy install and not to discover new packages. I have not even bothered to read the ones that are documented. Frankly I don't mind because I always

Re: [Pharo-dev] A question on the catalog

2016-06-11 Thread Pavel Krivanek
2016-06-11 10:17 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > > > On 11 Jun 2016, at 09:17, stepharo wrote: > > > > Esteban > > > > The current catalog is an inbox. We should define the rules for the real > ones and validate the entries. > > > > Entries that are not

Re: [Pharo-dev] A question on the catalog

2016-06-11 Thread stepharo
right now We should remove the ones with no documentation. Or let us in Pharo 60 we only accept the ones with documentation. Le 11/6/16 à 10:17, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : On 11 Jun 2016, at 09:17, stepharo wrote: Esteban The current catalog is an inbox. We should define

Re: [Pharo-dev] CodeImporter and Rubric will not be external projects managed by configurations

2016-06-11 Thread stepharo
Cargo all the packages have a configuration and it should be easier. even if projects will have to specify their hosts. BTW I hope that we will kill rubric because alain did it just as a hack to help synectique. Yes, good idea, external projects only make sense if they really can exist

Re: [Pharo-dev] spotter usage - a rough analysis of categories

2016-06-11 Thread Alistair Grant
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 09:47:40AM +0200, Guille Polito wrote: > Also, from the top of my head there is at least one use case that I cannot yet > replace with spotter, and I have to use a normal workspace/playground to do it > => browse senders or implementors. While i use senders/implementors

Re: [Pharo-dev] A question on the catalog

2016-06-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 11 Jun 2016, at 09:17, stepharo wrote: > > Esteban > > The current catalog is an inbox. We should define the rules for the real ones > and validate the entries. > > Entries that are not described should not be put in the real catalog. yes, but validation rules is

Re: [Pharo-dev] A question on the catalog

2016-06-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, > On 11 Jun 2016, at 08:53, Alistair Grant wrote: > > Hi Esteban, > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 02:52:46PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was doing a pass on the catalog??? I think is very negative that >> non-documented projects appear there???

Re: [Pharo-dev] A question on the catalog

2016-06-11 Thread stepharo
Esteban The current catalog is an inbox. We should define the rules for the real ones and validate the entries. Entries that are not described should not be put in the real catalog. Stef Le 10/6/16 à 14:52, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : Hi, I was doing a pass on the catalog… I think is

Re: [Pharo-dev] A question on the catalog

2016-06-11 Thread Alistair Grant
Hi Esteban, On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 02:52:46PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > > I was doing a pass on the catalog??? I think is very negative that > non-documented projects appear there??? because most people does not know > what does projects are about and newcomers will find weird