And there is DynamicProtocols. Which show abstract methods and more
2010/4/12 Simon Denier
>
> On 12 avr. 2010, at 14:26, Cyrille Delaunay wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Would it be difficult to generate automatically superclass-abstract
> methods (with an empty contents) when creating a new subcla
On linux, configure fails:
-- Configuring done
CMake Error in CMakeLists.txt:
Cannot find source file "aio.c". Tried extensions .c .C .c++ .cc .cpp
.cxx
.m .M .mm .h .hh .h++ .hm .hpp .hxx .in .txx
aio.c is in .unix/vm/aio.c
Cheers,
Laurent Laffont
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Geoffr
On 22.04.2010 04:45, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
I was looking for a SystemNavigator>> allMethodsUsingPragma: aSymbol, or
something like that. With that funtionality, I guess it really wouldn't
matter where they were located - or am I missing an easy way to find these
methods?
Sean
You could tr
Ping!
I know everyone is busy, but could someone test these CMake files? I
can't install a VM to build unix Squeak right now, but I'll do it in
the future.
I just want to know if it's still possible to create unix squeak with
these files :)
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Geoffroy Couprie wrot
On 4/21/2010 4:32 AM, Hannes Hirzel wrote:
A question: Art the ToolBuilder in Squeak 4.1 and Pharo 1.0 the same?
Or if there is a difference what is the impact of it?
Or put the question in another way. If I code an UI using the
ToolBuilder in Squeak 4.1 will it run in Pharo?
They are mostly t
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> Alain is our setting expert and we gotstuck on the how do write a setting
> chapter.
> So I'm happy other people like you push this further.
>
My experience as a settings beginner. It was actually really easy because:
* '*setting*' is used everywhere, so I did a '
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.mora...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/4/21 Lukas Renggli :
> >> thisContext is a special object for representing an activation in a
> >> stack frame in a stack-based VM.
> >
> > Actually "thisContext" represents *the current* activation/st
2010/4/21 Lukas Renggli :
>> thisContext is a special object for representing an activation in a
>> stack frame in a stack-based VM.
>
> Actually "thisContext" represents *the current* activation/stack-frame.
>
> foo: anObject
> ^ thisContext at: 1
>
> is the same as
>
> foo: anObject
yes I think that is a nice idea. we would need to see how it fitted in
with http://pharo-project.org/documentation as it is currently, and if
we load cms-box with all content or something else for dynamically
generated stuff like your seaside example (or -> static html).
cheers,
Mike
2010/4/21 la
John & Stephane,
Fair enough and good to know that folks like ESUG will be weighing
in. I think you're on the right track re: gathering vocal support
from the Scratch community that is constructive rather than bashing
Apple, and have mainly been wondering why there wasn't a more
concerte
Oh, and this one does not work, bad.
Anyway try the latest one #185 from Squeaksource, it is a moving
target so there are no ConfigurationOfDrGeo for it
Much better! I played a bit, this is really cool. I haven't noticed
any non-functional bugs.
Cheers,
Alexandre
Hilaire
Alexandre
O
Yes, Python documentation is really impressive, the best I know.
May be we can go the other way, from HelpSystem to web. I've tried something
like some months ago.ex:
http://magaloma.seasidehosting.st/Collections-Streams.
So we can have a documentation page like http://docs.python.org/py3k/ with:
I was in pharo integration desintoxication phase :)
We will have to fix it somehow. but this is cool to see people pushing fixes.
Stef
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Hi pharo
Gofer new
squeaksource: 'HelpSystem';
version: 'HelpSystem-Core-tbn.35';
load
and enjoy
HelpBrowser openOn: SystemReference
HelpBrowser openOn: (SystemReference forClass: Integer)
HelpBrowser openOn: (SystemReference hierarchyFor: Integer)
HelpBrowser o
Woah
This sounds really really cool.
Alain is our setting expert and we gotstuck on the how do write a setting
chapter.
So I'm happy other people like you push this further.
Setf
> In Inbox. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2329.
>
> Details:
>
>
> Michael Roberts-2 wrote:
>
Phil, last week I asked the smalltalk community (ESUG etc), to stay claim and
wait for Apple to think about it based on an email
exchange I had with Steve Jobs. At the time I thought it prudent to wait a
further decision or statement.
Give that Wired publish Alan & my thoughts on the matter i
Laurent, i think this is a tension that a number of us feel. should we
put documentation in the colab book, or in the system? For me the two
are distinct. The book, ultimately, should read as a book. That is
there is a logical flow from start to finish and the content is
consistent, from start to
On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Phil (list) wrote:
> I've been surprised that I haven't seen any statement from ESUG re: how these
> policies negatively impact the future prospects for Smalltalk on the
> iPhone/iPad and the investments they've made in the platform to date that
> Apple seems will
On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:26 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:
>
> On 2010-04-21, at 1:13 PM, stephane ducasse wrote:
>
>> Good!
>> John in future version it may be good to mention that ESUG supported this VM
>> work for the iphone.
>>
>> STef
>
> Yes, I did conduct a magazine interview today where I
Torsten may be you should trun your explanation mail into a book section on
book.pharo-project.org because it was cool.
> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2010-April/024857.html
I think that HelpSystem will be an important piece of Pharo.
And I was planning to push it into 1.1
I would love to. In the meantime you may find the code instructing,
starting from the DrGeo class you can follow to the polymorph use.
Hilaire
Simon Denier a écrit :
It looks good already. It would be great if you could share your tips and
tricks for Polymorph in the Pharo book ;)
On 21 avr
On Apr 21, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So it's time for me to stop lurking and do some stuff. However, although I am
> an experienced Smalltalk programmer (VisualAge Smalltalk continuously since
> 1995), I am a complete newb when it comes to Pharo and Squeak, i
I've been surprised that I haven't seen any statement from ESUG re:
how these policies negatively impact the future prospects for
Smalltalk on the iPhone/iPad and the investments they've made in the
platform to date that Apple seems willing to wipe out. Wouldn't now
be a good time to try t
On 2010-04-21, at 1:13 PM, stephane ducasse wrote:
> Good!
> John in future version it may be good to mention that ESUG supported this VM
> work for the iphone.
>
> STef
Yes, I did conduct a magazine interview today where I ensured I did mentioned
that ESUG funding was
instrumental in gettin
On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>> thisContext is a special object for representing an activation in a
>> stack frame in a stack-based VM.
>
> Actually "thisContext" represents *the current* activation/stack-frame.
>
>foo: anObject
> ^ thisContext at: 1
>
> is the
Good!
John in future version it may be good to mention that ESUG supported this VM
work for the iphone.
STef
On Apr 21, 2010, at 8:12 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:
> Morning, I've posted the letter I had posted to the Apple developer forums
> and sent to Steve Jobs at
>
> http://www.mobilewikis
well this is in a bad taste
but you can by loading
Gofer new
squeaksource: 'Coral';
load
CoralLoader load
I did not try in 1.1
let me know if you succeed
Now I'm too busy to push it but I should argh.
Syntax is like that:
[ Point < #ColoredPoint
iv: 'color';
In Inbox. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2329.
Details:
Michael Roberts-2 wrote:
>
> I appreciate I hijacked this thread somewhat
>
That's it - I'm pissed and I'm taking my damn thread back ;-)
Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?i
Hi,
It's cool to have so many interests in documentation. I deeply think it's a
key point to success.
As an hobbyist contributor to Pharo documentation :) I wonder whether I
should write doc in HelpSystem (which indeed is very cool !) or in the
collaborator active book (which is very attractive f
It looks good already. It would be great if you could share your tips and
tricks for Polymorph in the Pharo book ;)
On 21 avr. 2010, at 18:36, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> Known to work with Pharo 1.0.
>
> Someone asked for a more elaborated UI for DrGeo, here are some progresses in
> this pol
And because we should continue to shake the trees to get the bad fruits done.
>> Why does datedVersion appear in both SmalltalkImage and SystemVersion?
>>
>> SmalltalkImage delegates to SystemVersion. Why have both?
>>
>> Sean
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://n4.nabble.com/W
Thanks you and janko for your energy to carry this adventure in presence of
pain in the asses like me :)
Stef (I know I'm a pain)
On Apr 21, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
> Hi folks. First of all, let me apologize for being quite offline the last
> weeks and for not helping to
Alexandre Bergel a écrit :
I did a 'ConfigurationOfDrGeo load '
Oh, and this one does not work, bad.
Anyway try the latest one #185 from Squeaksource, it is a moving target
so there are no ConfigurationOfDrGeo for it
Hilaire
Alexandre
On 21 Apr 2010, at 15:21, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
I did a 'ConfigurationOfDrGeo load '
Alexandre
On 21 Apr 2010, at 15:21, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Hum, I see strange info related to Flap, should be gone. Did you
install version #185?
Hilaire
Alexandre Bergel a écrit :
Hi Hilaire,
I gave a try, but I bumped into an error:
PastUpMorph>>a
Hum, I see strange info related to Flap, should be gone. Did you install
version #185?
Hilaire
Alexandre Bergel a écrit :
Hi Hilaire,
I gave a try, but I bumped into an error:
PastUpMorph>>adaptToWorld: send a message adaptToWorld: to an instance
of EventHandler, which is not defined. I atta
Hi Hilaire,
I gave a try, but I bumped into an error:
PastUpMorph>>adaptToWorld: send a message adaptToWorld: to an instance
of EventHandler, which is not defined. I attached a log.
I tried on a OSX with a Pharo-1.0-10517-rc4dev10.04.1. If I have a
wrong config, let me know. I would like to
Hi folks. First of all, let me apologize for being quite offline the last
weeks and for not helping too much. I had some personal stuff to do ;)
Fortunately, Janko could take care of it and keep it rolling. Thanks a lot
Janko.
Here are what all of you want to know: the final results of voting for
Morning, I've posted the letter I had posted to the Apple developer forums and
sent to Steve Jobs at
http://www.mobilewikiserver.com/Interpreters.html
I'll suggest there was some lifting of concept and quotes by Wired from letter.
As of this morning I have no further news, I have heard thru v
To clearify a few things from my side on the discussion
on squeak-dev:
1. HelpSystem is working, if ASCII is OK for now we can use
it Pharo/Squeak - otherwise I would see it as an early preview.
I have clear goals how it should look like in the
next iterations. For this more patie
> thisContext is a special object for representing an activation in a
> stack frame in a stack-based VM.
Actually "thisContext" represents *the current* activation/stack-frame.
foo: anObject
^ thisContext at: 1
is the same as
foo: anObject
^ anObject
> There are two k
On Apr 21, 2010, at 6:44 05PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
>
>
> Henrik Johansen wrote:
>>
>> "SqueakSource is currently down. We are sorry for the inconvenience and
>> working on the problem. In the meantime you can still commit to a
>> directory repository on your disk and later c
2010/4/21 Peter Hugosson-Miller :
> Hi all,
> So it's time for me to stop lurking and do some stuff. However, although I
> am an experienced Smalltalk programmer (VisualAge Smalltalk continuously
> since 1995), I am a complete newb when it comes to Pharo and Squeak, it's
> hard to find my way aroun
Just uploaded a latest snapshot for XMl support.
Hilaire
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On Apr 21, 2010, at 6:09 02PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So it's time for me to stop lurking and do some stuff. However, although I am
> an experienced Smalltalk programmer (VisualAge Smalltalk continuously since
> 1995), I am a complete newb when it comes to Pharo and Squeak,
Hi,
I was wondering if there is some documentation about Coral?
I would like to play a bit with it :)
Cheers,
Nico
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Henrik Johansen wrote:
>
> "SqueakSource is currently down. We are sorry for the inconvenience and
> working on the problem. In the meantime you can still commit to a
> directory repository on your disk and later copy the versions to
> SqueakSource."
>
Oh, thanks. I
thisContext reifies the activation contexts (if that is the exact way
to describe it?). I don't believe you have it in VA. So you can just
walk it. If you look for some of the fatal error handling logic you
can see how the debug log is written out on crash containing the
stack. Cheers mike
On Wedn
Known to work with Pharo 1.0.
Someone asked for a more elaborated UI for DrGeo, here are some
progresses in this polymorphization of DrGeo. In its latest Monticello
package one can grab DrGeo at http://www.squeaksource.com/DrGeoII
See enclosed screenshot for a quick view.
To start a DrGeo in
Peter,
Welcome aboard! IMHO, this is a fine place for the discussion that will
hopefully result.
Two links that I find useful are:
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.pharo.devel
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general
as they allow searching of the lists.
Hav
On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:21 40PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
>
> Why does datedVersion appear in both SmalltalkImage and SystemVersion?
>
> SmalltalkImage delegates to SystemVersion. Why have both?
>
> Sean
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://n4.nabble.com/Why-does-datedVersion-appear-i
Hi all,
So it's time for me to stop lurking and do some stuff. However, although I
am an experienced Smalltalk programmer (VisualAge Smalltalk continuously
since 1995), I am a complete newb when it comes to Pharo and Squeak, it's
hard to find my way around, and it's going to take me some time to g
Why does datedVersion appear in both SmalltalkImage and SystemVersion?
SmalltalkImage delegates to SystemVersion. Why have both?
Sean
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Sent from th
Environment variables can be interrogated, at least in Linux (perhaps
other OS's, I haven't tried), via OSProcess:
OSProcess thisOSProcess environment
Hope that helps..
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Michael Roberts wrote:
> i'm not sure what either of you mean. I want there to be no UI choi
On 21 April 2010 14:48, Saris Hein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to get some stuff done with REST using Pharo.
> So far, I am able to do GETs, but I am unable to do PUTs because the REST
> service expects the content sent to be JSON.
> For this to work, I need to set the Content-Type of the reques
I added this example in Monticello.tex, section repositories.
Thanks Dale!
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:18, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
we should add that to the pharo book :)
On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:42 AM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
Sean,
Don't know if this has already mentioned, but you
The Cloudfork (amazon web services wrappers) guys propose two options:
- SWHTTPClient
- CurlPlugin
I've never tested the former one, but you'll maybe find what you need ?
http://code.google.com/p/cloudfork/wiki/InstallingForSqueak
Having a version of the CurlPlugin that allows me to set a custo
> Ah, OK. I guess it's really a question of perception.
not perception. Just money.
Give me three engineers full times during two years and you will not recognize
pharo :)
> The world in which I work is a bit different from the wonderful world of
> Pharo (no sarcasm intended!), in that we can't
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Tudor Girba
> wrote:
> > Basically yes.
> >
> > It's not just for giving it to someone else, but also for yourself. The
> idea is to qui
On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Saris Hein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to get some stuff done with REST using Pharo.
> So far, I am able to do GETs, but I am unable to do PUTs because the REST
> service expects the content sent to be JSON.
> For this to work, I need to set the Content-Type of the
Hi,
I am trying to get some stuff done with REST using Pharo.
So far, I am able to do GETs, but I am unable to do PUTs because the REST
service expects the content sent to be JSON.
For this to work, I need to set the Content-Type of the request to
'application/json'.
I have successfully installe
cool!
On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:26 PM, laurent laffont wrote:
> Here http://book.pharo-project.org/book/TipsAndTricks/PharoRC
>
> Can someone adapt it for Windows ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laurent Laffont
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
> wrote:
> Cool I will do that too.
> Can
On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
> Basically yes.
>
> It's not just for giving it to someone else, but also for yourself. The idea
> is to quickly notice when tests change color (from green to red), so instead
>
On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
> I'm trying to follow along with this discussion, but now I feel really stupid
> :-(
>
> I've been using SUnit since 1998 (when it was still called
> "BeckTestingFramework"),
testingFramework on VW :)
> and ever since "expected fail
Here http://book.pharo-project.org/book/TipsAndTricks/PharoRC
Can someone adapt it for Windows ?
Cheers,
Laurent Laffont
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Cool I will do that too.
> Can you create a book entry with that because this is cool :)
>
> Stef
>
> On Apr 21,
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:23:36PM -0700, Andreas Raab wrote:
>
> On 4/20/2010 10:24 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> >
> >Dont know what should be the next steps to get Alien
> >into the Win32-VM code base. Maybe Andreas could tell
> >you more.
>
> Perhaps David and/or Eliot can help? From my persp
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
> Basically yes.
>
> It's not just for giving it to someone else, but also for yourself. The
> idea is to quickly notice when tests change color (from green to red), so
> instead of remembering how many failed before and comparing with the curr
Basically yes.
It's not just for giving it to someone else, but also for yourself.
The idea is to quickly notice when tests change color (from green to
red), so instead of remembering how many failed before and comparing
with the current number of failures, you simply mark them as expected
Thanks for answering, Doru!
So if I've understood you correctly, expected failures are useful when one
wants to give some code to someone else, with all the tests running green,
but at the same time let that person know that some specific tests are
really still red, but known about. In other words
Hi,
The idea behind this is that you can use unit tests to document things
you have not done yet, or bugs that you know about but you do not want
to spend time working on right now.
Simply reverting the assertion in your test does make the test runner
green, but it fails to document the i
I'm trying to follow along with this discussion, but now I feel really
stupid :-(
I've been using SUnit since 1998 (when it was still called
"BeckTestingFramework"), and ever since "expected failures" showed up, I've
never understood them. So I wonder if some kind guru-like person
could please exp
We should have a look at what adrian did now the problem is that understanding
a large set of changes is more difficult than a couple of simple ones.
If somebody want to help we are open.
Stef
> I think Adrian Kuhn did that in his SUnit work. I also remember he also
> introduced a difference b
I think Adrian Kuhn did that in his SUnit work. I also remember he
also introduced a difference between expectedFailures and
expectedErrors.
Doru
On 21 Apr 2010, at 10:16, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Yea, I agree, the GUI is suboptimal.
On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> Yea, I agree, the GUI is suboptimal.
>
> I still think, though, that treating this case as a failure is correct. For
> instance, consider the case where you had added a workaround to a known bug
> and when the bug is fixed you need to remov
Please join us on the 10th of June for the next Cologne Smalltalk User Meetup.
Anyone interested in Smalltalk is invited, regardless if you only recently
discovered the magic of doing things the Smalltalk way, are a die hard
VM-Hacker, want to share your experience on web-development in Seaside
Yea, I agree, the GUI is suboptimal.
I still think, though, that treating this case as a failure is correct. For
instance, consider the case where you had added a workaround to a known bug and
when the bug is fixed you need to remove the workaround again. Maybe it even
leads to a wrong behavior
That's cool but we should look to resolve the rc file or env variables
in the image then it doesn't rely on correctly configuring the command
line invocation. shouldn't be too hard. I appreciate I hijacked this
thread somewhat
Cheers mike
On Wednesday, April 21, 2010, Stéphane Ducasse
wrote:
On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> 2010/4/20 John M McIntosh
>> Well I asked for it...
>>
>> (a) you can get graphic cut/copy/paste of complex data on the macintosh and
>> windows.
>>
>> (b) I'd rat
On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> 2010/4/20 John M McIntosh
> Well I asked for it...
>
> (a) you can get graphic cut/copy/paste of complex data on the macintosh and
> windows.
>
> (b) I'd rather have people learn FFI & Alien so they can build their own api
> t
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