Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
On May 24, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: I ported the gettext package from Etoys to Pharo with help of other (Henrik). I have to admit I mostly forgot about its internal, even if I amn using it for DrGeo. In between, some part of the gettext package in Etoys was improved, I

Re: [Pharo-project] Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com writes: https://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed/blobs/master/platforms/unix/plugins/ SerialPlugin/sqUnixSerial.c This code contains the old implementaton of the Serial Plugin not the extensions of things like openPortByName. The Serail Plugin I'm talking

[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13215

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
13215 - Issue 4266: TasklistMorphselectTask DNU http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4266 Issue 1817: [etoy] Should remove project http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1817 -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] Ephemerons for Cog

2011-05-25 Thread Andres Valloud
In VisualWorks, the place where objects that are likely never garbage live is called perm space. You get a GC speedup roughly proportional to the fraction of the image that is perm space (because you don't have to scan it or mark it), as long as the GC is not global (i.e.: when you also want

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I like it :) Adrian On May 24, 2011, at 22:25 , laurent laffont wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Ok we need a 1.3 version because now we get excited. Here's a first shot (not integrated to TaskBarMorph though) which works in

Re: [Pharo-project] Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
I have no idea. Maybe someone in the VM mailing list can help you. Cheers 2011/5/25 Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com writes: https://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed/blobs/master/platforms/unix/plugins/ SerialPlugin/sqUnixSerial.c

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 25.05.2011 08:14, Marcus Denker wrote: On May 24, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: I ported the gettext package from Etoys to Pharo with help of other (Henrik). I have to admit I mostly forgot about its internal, even if I amn using it for DrGeo. In between, some part of the

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I do not understand. how can I get a browser? once this is one is created I get the browser full screen but then how do I get a chance to create a new one if I want. dividing the browsers based on the screen size results in rather small browsers :) Stef TWMBar new open. The real manager

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
On May 25, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: On 25.05.2011 08:14, Marcus Denker wrote: On May 24, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: I ported the gettext package from Etoys to Pharo with help of other (Henrik). I have to admit I mostly forgot about its internal,

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread laurent laffont
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: I do not understand. how can I get a browser? Hey, this is just a start :) I will add a button to open the world menu. once this is one is created I get the browser full screen but then how do I get a

[Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
Hello, 1.3 seems to stabilize... http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2q=milestone=1.3 just 12 issues left. We could freeze soon. -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
+1 On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: Hello, 1.3 seems to stabilize... http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2q=milestone=1.3 just 12 issues left. We could freeze soon. -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
But does it belong into that what we call Pharo? yes probably. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Gary Chambers
Aside from an issue I've encountered with Windows VM answering an empty string for the first command line parameter, rather than nil. Workaround : CommandLine classcommandLineInput self commandLineInput | str index args | args := OrderedCollection new. str := Smalltalk getSystemAttribute:

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks! On May 25, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: Aside from an issue I've encountered with Windows VM answering an empty string for the first command line parameter, rather than nil. Workaround : CommandLine classcommandLineInput self commandLineInput | str index args

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4272 Stef On May 25, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: Aside from an issue I've encountered with Windows VM answering an empty string for the first command line parameter, rather than nil. Workaround : CommandLine

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Gary Chambers
Also, a problem with finalisation of FT2Handles... Fix: FT2Handle classderegister: aHandle Registry ifNotNil: [ :reg | | finalizer | finalizer := reg remove: aHandle ifAbsent: []. finalizer ifNotNil: [ finalizer executor beNull. self knownHandles remove: aHandle ifAbsent: [ ] ] ] Regards,

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4273 :) On May 25, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: Also, a problem with finalisation of FT2Handles... Fix: FT2Handle classderegister: aHandle Registry ifNotNil: [ :reg | | finalizer | finalizer := reg remove: aHandle ifAbsent: [].

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13215

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
On May 25, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: 13215 - Issue 4266: TasklistMorphselectTask DNU http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4266 Issue 1817: [etoy] Should remove project http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1817 I will revert this

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Johan Brichau
On 25 May 2011, at 11:34, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: But does it belong into that what we call Pharo? yes probably. If you want to keep and improve the existing localisation translation support, I think it's a good idea to integrate Gettext. It uses a format that is used beyond the

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Johan Brichau
Ok thanks Hilaire. I will take a look at the current state of the package in etoys and split up the code as I mentioned. I'm new to this kind of internationalization stuff, so I will do some work as part of internationalizing our web apps. On 24 May 2011, at 23:13, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: I

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
If you want to keep and improve the existing localisation translation support, I think it's a good idea to integrate Gettext. It uses a format that is used beyond the Smalltalk community. yes But I guess the above depends wether the 'core' Pharo tools require some translation

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread laurent laffont
Now there's a button to open the world menu. Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:20 AM, laurent laffont

[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13215

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
13215 - Issue 4269: MultiCanvasCharacterScanner is unused http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4269 Issue 4271: remove update uploading support from FileList http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4271 Issue 4270: SegmentScanner is unused

[Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Steve Wirts
Hi All, Sorry if this topic has been covered in a previous email, I couldn't find anything conclusive so I'm posting it for my own clarity. I am a smalltalk programmer at heart but have been working in java at a java shop for sometime. Recently there's been a very strong directive from

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 25 May 2011 16:22, Steve Wirts stevewi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Sorry if this topic has been covered in a previous email, I couldn't find anything conclusive so I'm posting it for my own clarity. I am a smalltalk programmer at heart but have been working in java at a java shop for

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
the regulation of apple makes that JIT are forbidden. Now you can run pharo Cog Stack (no JIT) interperter. We would support any speed improvements that help in that direction. We are planning to clean event handling and other in that perspective. Stef On May 25, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Steve Wirts

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Steve Wirts
so a version purely for inhouse/research/educational use isn't likely to be created? On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: the regulation of apple makes that JIT are forbidden. Now you can run pharo Cog Stack (no JIT) interperter. We would

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
so a version purely for inhouse/research/educational use isn't likely to be created? Why not. But so far what is the microprocessor of ipad if this is not an intel then it means that the assembly generation has to be done and our plate is full. Stef On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:57 AM,

Re: [Pharo-project] Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com writes: I have no idea. Maybe someone in the VM mailing list can help you. Ok I finally got the serialPort access under Cog VM and Linux I concede it is currently a hackerish solution a combination out of Squeak sources and Cog sources with a good

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: ESUG SummerTalk - Fuel, binary object serializer

2011-05-25 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 25/05/11 11:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: - globals behaviors (classes and traits) are managed (by default) in kind of light serialization. Where we only serialize the global name which means that the class has to be present in Smalltalk globals in the image that you want to

[Pharo-project] Fwd: Background Changer

2011-05-25 Thread Alexandre Bergel
FYI Begin forwarded message: From: Lemuus lem...@gmail.com Date: 24 May 2011 18:35:00 GMT-04:00 To: pharo-ch...@googlegroups.com Subject: Background Changer Reply-To: pharo-ch...@googlegroups.com Hi, I tend change the background on Pharo a lot, so i made a little application to

Re: [Pharo-project] Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
But I think there are a few problems with Pharo 1.3 and Cog. AFAIKT one needs AbstractLauncher. I shamlessly stole it from Squeak. If I do not have it and start my generated CogVM I just get an open window with some black rectangle in the upper left. This problem was mentioned at:

Re: [Pharo-project] Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 25 May 2011 17:30, Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de wrote: Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com writes: I have no idea. Maybe someone in the VM mailing list can help you. Ok I  finally got the serialPort access under Cog VM and Linux I concede it is currently a

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: ESUG SummerTalk - Fuel, binary object serializer

2011-05-25 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Yanni Chiu ya...@rogers.com wrote: On 25/05/11 11:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: - globals behaviors (classes and traits) are managed (by default) in kind of light serialization. Where we only serialize the global name which means that the class has to

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Well... I'm going to use this post to talk a bit about Pharo in iOS, because it is more complex than having a vm working But first, a summary of where we stand: 1) The Stack VM is working with iPhone/iPad, but needs some minor adjustments (some tuning). One problem here is that I didn't

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Dr. Geo II release 11.06

2011-05-25 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Announced there http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/drgeo-11-06 The XO version of Dr. Geo II comes with the new COG Smalltalk Virtual Machine from Eliot Miranda, giving an average boost of +300% Feedback welcome! Enjoy Hilaire -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
A third option could be to build a polymorph theme for iPAD. This is an intermediate option I discussed a bit with Bert, to do a DrGeo port for iPAD. Frankly speaking if someone is interested to work with me on that direction we may be able to produce something in our range and useful for the

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Sorry, but no, this is not an option. A theme will never pass the apple quality check :( Esteban El 25/05/2011, a las 1:22p.m., Hilaire Fernandes escribió: A third option could be to build a polymorph theme for iPAD. This is an intermediate option I discussed a bit with Bert, to do a DrGeo

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
mmm... I'm seeing dr. geo (never did before, he), and I think a version of it as a single screen, like a game, who can popup cocoa dialogs (for copyright, etc.) could work. More or less a mix of first approach with John's approach. It can work for Dr.Geo but that is still a specific case...

[Pharo-project] Feedback on Nautilus

2011-05-25 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! * What the icon means? inline: Screen shot 2011-05-25 at 12.31.56.png inline: Screen shot 2011-05-25 at 12.32.08.png * Can I add a number of packages (based on regular expression?) to a group in one click? Have a look at the 'promote categories' command in OB. It is a bit boring to have to

Re: [Pharo-project] Feedback on Nautilus

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
which version are you using Alex can you report bugs in a way that we can immediately check and take actions. the icons are not definitive. * Can I add a number of packages (based on regular expression?) to a group in one click? Have a look at the 'promote categories' command in OB. It

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread laurent laffont
Is 1.3 will be a release of one or two images finally ? Laurent On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: Hello, 1.3 seems to stabilize... http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2q=milestone=1.3 just 12 issues left. We could freeze

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
On May 25, 2011, at 7:41 PM, laurent laffont wrote: Is 1.3 will be a release of one or two images finally ? Two, as changing it would mean doing that instead of a release. (remember, a release is just a snapshot of what is done, it should never require anything do be done other than what

[Pharo-project] some news about the consortium

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi pharoers yesterday we got a meeting with INRIA people and we discussed the creation of an INRIA consortium. We will follow the INRIA process and propose officially the creation. For that we will have to present a proposal by end of June so we will do it. I would like to see the consortium

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk/Pharo User Group in Spain

2011-05-25 Thread Germán Arduino
Not forget SqueakRos (http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/squeakRos/) that it is more a kind of bar where we talk about Smalltalk but also many other things. We have people of several countries but mostly talk in Spanish. Cheers. 2011/5/24 Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com: On Tue, May

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
I have no idea how hard it is to pass the apple check. It can indeed temper any effort doing a theme. Hilaire Le 25/05/2011 18:29, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : Sorry, but no, this is not an option. A theme will never pass the apple quality check :( Esteban El 25/05/2011, a las 1:22p.m.,

[Pharo-project] tests ui errors in headless mode

2011-05-25 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, We have some smoke tests in Moose that basically spawn a UI and check for Error. This used to work when running headless in Pharo 1.2 but now they fail in Pharo 1.3. I believe this has to do with the new changes in the UI Manager, but I do not know what to do. To reproduce the problem,

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] some news about the consortium

2011-05-25 Thread Michael Forster
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi pharoers yesterday we got a meeting with INRIA people and we discussed the creation of an INRIA consortium. We will follow the INRIA process and propose officially the creation. For that we will have to

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] some news about the consortium

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks a lot for your trust! For us, we receive that as gift and responsibility. We feel honored. If was never and will never be a question of ego or power. What I learned is that when you really want something to happen the best thing to do is to do it. May be people will join and you will

[Pharo-project] [COTDC] 68#2 MultiTextComposer

2011-05-25 Thread laurent laffont
Today: MultiTextComposer Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment Rules: #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. Results:

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Background Changer

2011-05-25 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
nice tool :) I always put backgrounds. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.comwrote: FYI Begin forwarded message: *From: *Lemuus lem...@gmail.com *Date: *24 May 2011 18:35:00 GMT-04:00 *To: *pharo-ch...@googlegroups.com *Subject: **Background Changer*

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: A third option could be to build a polymorph theme for iPAD. This is an intermediate option I discussed a bit with Bert, to do a DrGeo port for iPAD. Frankly speaking if someone is interested to work with me

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] Re: Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread David T. Lewis
For the SerialPlugin, there are two enhancements that will be found in VMMaker and Squeak that should be added to Cog and to Pharo: 1) The named serial port updates are documented at http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7266 2) A separate bug fix for SerialPlugin on Unix is at

Re: [Pharo-project] Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread David T. Lewis
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 05:46:00PM +0200, Igor Stasenko wrote: P.S. it is great that you were able to fix plugin build VM with little help. If you have questions, do not hesitate to ask. We need people who are not afraid to get their hands dirty and to fix something in VM :) Yes! Dave

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread Gastón Dall' Oglio
2011/5/25 laurent laffont laurent.laff...@gmail.com 2011/5/25 Gastón Dall' Oglio gaston.dallog...@gmail.com Excelent! IMHO, it's better that's not integrated to TaskBarMorph, lets it free :) For example, click in unused space of the TWMBar and you can move it around you wish in the screen,