Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: Re: ESUG SummerTalk - Fuel, binary object serializer

2011-05-25 Thread Martin Dias
Hi Yanni, On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > On 25/05/11 11:53 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> Sorry Yanni, I didn't follow. Could you please explain a bit more? what >> do you want to serialize? do you want to be able to choose some classes >> as light and some as non

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 25 May 2011 19:50, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On May 25, 2011, at 7:41 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > >> Is 1.3 will be a release of one or two images finally ? >> > > Two, as changing it would mean doing that instead of a release. (remember, a > "release" is just a snapshot of what is done, it >

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread laurent laffont
Gastòn, I've downloaded the new version - thanks a lot for contributing, it brings fun :) Some comment: - tiling browsers don't work any more with OB, WMWithAnOBBrowserAndDockingBarsTest does not create an OBBrowser anymore but a Browser - you've changed TilingWM>>visibleWindows to TilingWM>>wi

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread Gastón Dall' Oglio
2011/5/25 laurent laffont > 2011/5/25 Gastón Dall' Oglio > >> Excelent! >> >> IMHO, it's better that's not integrated to TaskBarMorph, lets it free :) >> For example, click in unused space of the TWMBar and you can move it >> around you wish in the screen, similar to use DockingBarMorph>>beFloat

Re: [Pharo-project] Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread David T. Lewis
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 05:46:00PM +0200, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > P.S. it is great that you were able to fix plugin & build VM with little help. > If you have questions, do not hesitate to ask. We need people who are > not afraid to get their hands dirty and to fix something in VM :) Yes! Dave

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] Re: Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread David T. Lewis
For the SerialPlugin, there are two enhancements that will be found in VMMaker and Squeak that should be added to Cog and to Pharo: 1) The named serial port updates are documented at 2) A separate bug fix for SerialPlugin on Unix is at

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > A third option could be to build a polymorph theme for iPAD. > This is an intermediate option I discussed a bit with Bert, to do a > DrGeo port for iPAD. > Frankly speaking if someone is interested to work with me on that > direction we

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Background Changer

2011-05-25 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
nice tool :) I always put backgrounds. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > FYI > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Lemuus > *Date: *24 May 2011 18:35:00 GMT-04:00 > *To: *pharo-ch...@googlegroups.com > *Subject: **Background Changer* > *Reply-To: *pharo-ch...@googlegr

[Pharo-project] [COTDC] 68#2 MultiTextComposer

2011-05-25 Thread laurent laffont
Today: MultiTextComposer Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment Rules: #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Commen

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] some news about the consortium

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks a lot for your trust! For us, we receive that as gift and responsibility. We feel honored. If was never and will never be a question of ego or power. What I learned is that when you really want something to happen the best thing to do is to do it. May be people will join and you will have

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] some news about the consortium

2011-05-25 Thread Michael Forster
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi pharoers > > yesterday we got a meeting with INRIA people and we discussed the creation of > an INRIA consortium. > We will follow the INRIA process and propose officially the creation. For > that we will have to present > a proposal

[Pharo-project] tests ui errors in headless mode

2011-05-25 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, We have some smoke tests in Moose that basically spawn a UI and check for Error. This used to work when running headless in Pharo 1.2 but now they fail in Pharo 1.3. I believe this has to do with the new changes in the UI Manager, but I do not know what to do. To reproduce the problem, you

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
I have no idea how hard it is to pass the apple check. It can indeed temper any effort doing a theme. Hilaire Le 25/05/2011 18:29, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : > Sorry, but no, this is not an option. > A theme will never pass the apple quality check :( > > Esteban > > El 25/05/2011, a las 1:22p

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk/Pharo User Group in Spain

2011-05-25 Thread Germán Arduino
Not forget SqueakRos (http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/squeakRos/) that it is more a kind of bar where we talk about Smalltalk but also many other things. We have people of several countries but mostly talk in Spanish. Cheers. 2011/5/24 Serge Stinckwich : > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Maria

[Pharo-project] some news about the consortium

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi pharoers yesterday we got a meeting with INRIA people and we discussed the creation of an INRIA consortium. We will follow the INRIA process and propose officially the creation. For that we will have to present a proposal by end of June so we will do it. I would like to see the consortium t

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
On May 25, 2011, at 7:41 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > Is 1.3 will be a release of one or two images finally ? > Two, as changing it would mean doing that instead of a release. (remember, a "release" is just a snapshot of what is done, it should never require anything do be done other than wha

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread laurent laffont
Is 1.3 will be a release of one or two images finally ? Laurent On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hello, > > 1.3 seems to stabilize... > >http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone=1.3 > > just 12 issues left. > > We could freeze soon. > > > -- >

Re: [Pharo-project] Feedback on Nautilus

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
which version are you using Alex can you report bugs in a way that we can immediately check and take actions. the icons are not definitive. > * Can I add a number of packages (based on regular expression?) to a group in > one click? Have a look at the 'promote categories' command in OB. It

[Pharo-project] Feedback on Nautilus

2011-05-25 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! * What the icon means? <> <> * Can I add a number of packages (based on regular expression?) to a group in one click? Have a look at the 'promote categories' command in OB. It is a bit boring to have to look for a particular package, especially when they are alphabetically ordered. * Wha

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
mmm... I'm seeing dr. geo (never did before, he), and I think a version of it as a single screen, like a game, who can popup cocoa dialogs (for copyright, etc.) could work. More or less a "mix" of first approach with John's approach. It can work for Dr.Geo but that is still a specific case...

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Sorry, but no, this is not an option. A theme will never pass the apple quality check :( Esteban El 25/05/2011, a las 1:22p.m., Hilaire Fernandes escribió: > A third option could be to build a polymorph theme for iPAD. > This is an intermediate option I discussed a bit with Bert, to do a > DrGe

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
A third option could be to build a polymorph theme for iPAD. This is an intermediate option I discussed a bit with Bert, to do a DrGeo port for iPAD. Frankly speaking if someone is interested to work with me on that direction we may be able to produce something in our range and useful for the commu

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Dr. Geo II release 11.06

2011-05-25 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Announced there http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/drgeo-11-06 The XO version of Dr. Geo II comes with the new COG Smalltalk Virtual Machine from Eliot Miranda, giving an average boost of +300% Feedback welcome! Enjoy Hilaire -- Education 0.2 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Well... I'm going to use this post to talk a bit about Pharo in iOS, because it is more complex than "having a vm working" But first, a summary of where we stand: 1) The Stack VM is working with iPhone/iPad, but needs some minor adjustments (some tuning). One problem here is that I didn't integr

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: ESUG SummerTalk - Fuel, binary object serializer

2011-05-25 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > On 25/05/11 11:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> - globals behaviors (classes and traits) are managed (by default) in >> kind of "light" serialization. Where we only serialize the global name >> which means that the class has to be pr

Re: [Pharo-project] Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 25 May 2011 17:30, Friedrich Dominicus wrote: > Mariano Martinez Peck writes: > >> I have no idea. Maybe someone in the VM mailing list can help you. >> > Ok I  finally got the serialPort access under Cog VM and Linux > I concede it is currently a hackerish solution a combination out of > Sque

Re: [Pharo-project] Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
But I think there are a few problems with Pharo 1.3 and Cog. AFAIKT one > needs AbstractLauncher. I shamlessly stole it from Squeak. If I do > not have it and start my generated CogVM I just get an open window with > some black rectangle in the upper left. > This problem was mentioned at: > > htt

[Pharo-project] Fwd: Background Changer

2011-05-25 Thread Alexandre Bergel
FYI Begin forwarded message: > From: Lemuus > Date: 24 May 2011 18:35:00 GMT-04:00 > To: pharo-ch...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Background Changer > Reply-To: pharo-ch...@googlegroups.com > > Hi, > I tend change the background on Pharo a lot, so i made a little application > to change the b

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: ESUG SummerTalk - Fuel, binary object serializer

2011-05-25 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 25/05/11 11:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: - globals behaviors (classes and traits) are managed (by default) in kind of "light" serialization. Where we only serialize the global name which means that the class has to be present in Smalltalk globals in the image that you want to materiali

Re: [Pharo-project] Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread Friedrich Dominicus
Mariano Martinez Peck writes: > I have no idea. Maybe someone in the VM mailing list can help you. > Ok I finally got the serialPort access under Cog VM and Linux I concede it is currently a hackerish solution a combination out of Squeak sources and Cog sources with a good mixture of Cog So wh

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> so a version purely for inhouse/research/educational use isn't likely to be > created? Why not. But so far what is the microprocessor of ipad if this is not an intel then it means that the assembly generation has to be done and our plate is full. Stef > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:57 AM, S

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Re: ESUG SummerTalk - Fuel, binary object serializer

2011-05-25 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > On 24/05/11 4:39 PM, Martin Dias wrote: > >> >> We really appreciate all kind of feedback and comments. If you want to >> try it, check in the website how to do it. It is extremely easy. >> > > I had a brief look and will look some more. I may

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Steve Wirts
so a version purely for inhouse/research/educational use isn't likely to be created? On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: > the regulation of apple makes that JIT are forbidden. Now you can run pharo > Cog Stack (no JIT) interperter. > We would su

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
the regulation of apple makes that JIT are forbidden. Now you can run pharo Cog Stack (no JIT) interperter. We would support any speed improvements that help in that direction. We are planning to clean event handling and other in that perspective. Stef On May 25, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Steve Wirts w

Re: [Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 25 May 2011 16:22, Steve Wirts wrote: > Hi All, > Sorry if this topic has been covered in a previous email, I couldn't find > anything conclusive so I'm posting it for my own clarity. > I am a smalltalk programmer at heart but have been working in java at a java > shop for sometime.  Recently t

[Pharo-project] cog vm for iOS

2011-05-25 Thread Steve Wirts
Hi All, Sorry if this topic has been covered in a previous email, I couldn't find anything conclusive so I'm posting it for my own clarity. I am a smalltalk programmer at heart but have been working in java at a java shop for sometime. Recently there's been a very strong directive from management

[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13215

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
13215 - Issue 4269: MultiCanvasCharacterScanner is unused http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4269 Issue 4271: remove update uploading support from FileList http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4271 Issue 4270: SegmentScanner is unused

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread laurent laffont
Now there's a button to open the world menu. Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:20 AM, laurent laffont

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
>> > > If you want to keep and improve the existing "localisation & translation" > support, I think it's a good idea to integrate Gettext. It uses a format that > is used beyond the Smalltalk community. yes > > But I guess the above depends wether the 'core' Pharo tools require some > "tra

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Johan Brichau
Ok thanks Hilaire. I will take a look at the current state of the package in etoys and split up the code as I mentioned. I'm new to this kind of internationalization stuff, so I will do some work as part of internationalizing our web apps. On 24 May 2011, at 23:13, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > I

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Johan Brichau
On 25 May 2011, at 11:34, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> But does it belong into that what we call Pharo? > > yes probably. If you want to keep and improve the existing "localisation & translation" support, I think it's a good idea to integrate Gettext. It uses a format that is used beyond the Sm

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13215

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
On May 25, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > 13215 > - > > Issue 4266: TasklistMorph>>selectTask DNU > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4266 > Issue 1817: [etoy] Should remove project > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1817 I will revert

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4273 :) On May 25, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > Also, a problem with finalisation of FT2Handles... > > Fix: > > FT2Handle class>>deregister: aHandle > Registry ifNotNil: [ :reg | | finalizer | > finalizer := reg remove: aHandle ifAbse

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Gary Chambers
Also, a problem with finalisation of FT2Handles... Fix: FT2Handle class>>deregister: aHandle Registry ifNotNil: [ :reg | | finalizer | finalizer := reg remove: aHandle ifAbsent: []. finalizer ifNotNil: [ finalizer executor beNull. self knownHandles remove: aHandle ifAbsent: [ ] ] ] Regards,

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4272 Stef On May 25, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: > Aside from an issue I've encountered with Windows VM answering an empty > string for the first command line parameter, rather than nil. > > Workaround : > > CommandLine class>>comm

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks! On May 25, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: > Aside from an issue I've encountered with Windows VM answering an empty > string for the first command line parameter, rather than nil. > > Workaround : > > CommandLine class>>commandLineInput > "self commandLineInput" > > | st

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Gary Chambers
Aside from an issue I've encountered with Windows VM answering an empty string for the first command line parameter, rather than nil. Workaround : CommandLine class>>commandLineInput "self commandLineInput" | str index args | args := OrderedCollection new. str := Smalltalk getSystemAttribu

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> But does it belong into that what we call Pharo? yes probably. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
+1 On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hello, > > 1.3 seems to stabilize... > >http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone=1.3 > > just 12 issues left. > > We could freeze soon. > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille --

[Pharo-project] Do we freeze 1.3?

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
Hello, 1.3 seems to stabilize... http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone=1.3 just 12 issues left. We could freeze soon. -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread laurent laffont
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: > I do not understand. > > how can I get a browser? > Hey, this is just a start :) I will add a button to open the world menu. once this is one is created I get the browser full screen > but then how do I ge

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
On May 25, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > On 25.05.2011 08:14, Marcus Denker wrote: >> On May 24, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> >>> I ported the gettext package from Etoys to Pharo with help of other >>> (Henrik). >>> I have to admit I mostly forgot about its

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I do not understand. how can I get a browser? once this is one is created I get the browser full screen but then how do I get a chance to create a new one if I want. dividing the browsers based on the screen size results in rather small browsers :) Stef > TWMBar new open. > > The real manag

Re: [Pharo-project] Gettext package?

2011-05-25 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 25.05.2011 08:14, Marcus Denker wrote: On May 24, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: I ported the gettext package from Etoys to Pharo with help of other (Henrik). I have to admit I mostly forgot about its internal, even if I amn using it for DrGeo. In between, some part of the gette

Re: [Pharo-project] Questions of understanding

2011-05-25 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
I have no idea. Maybe someone in the VM mailing list can help you. Cheers 2011/5/25 Friedrich Dominicus > Mariano Martinez Peck writes: > > > https://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed/blobs/master/platforms/unix/plugins/ > > SerialPlugin/sqUnixSerial.c > This code contains the old implementaton of t

Re: [Pharo-project] Tiling windows

2011-05-25 Thread Adrian Lienhard
I like it :) Adrian On May 24, 2011, at 22:25 , laurent laffont wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Stéphane Ducasse > wrote: > >> Ok we need a 1.3 version because now we get excited. >> > > Here's a first shot (not integrated to TaskBarMorph though) which works in > 1.3: > > Gofer it

Re: [Pharo-project] [Ann] Ephemerons for Cog

2011-05-25 Thread Andres Valloud
In VisualWorks, the place where objects that are likely never garbage live is called perm space. You get a GC speedup roughly proportional to the fraction of the image that is perm space (because you don't have to scan it or mark it), as long as the GC is not global (i.e.: when you also want t

[Pharo-project] [update 1.3] #13215

2011-05-25 Thread Marcus Denker
13215 - Issue 4266: TasklistMorph>>selectTask DNU http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4266 Issue 1817: [etoy] Should remove project http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1817 -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europ