Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello trickery: pointers needed

2012-01-04 Thread Frank Shearar
On 25 December 2011 22:18, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The background to the question is that I'm trying to repackage LanguageBoxes so that both the Squeak and Pharo community can use its features (or just parts of it). Cutie-Helvetia defines a class, CURaisedToExample.

[Pharo-project] Suggestion Note:

2012-01-04 Thread S Krish
Should raise this as a separate artifact and probably send out my fixes ( currently these are hacks). Many of the other logics do not work as per standard practices... from other comp usage.. windows/ linux.. * FileOut is silent and saves to the resources folder ... no chance of intervention

Re: [Pharo-project] Keyboard navigation and Settings browser

2012-01-04 Thread Gary Chambers
As long as you have a reference to the window at the time... aWindow rememberKeyboardFocus: aMorph Then, upon opening the window, aMorph should have keyboard focus. Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: Alain Plantec alain.plan...@yahoo.com To:

Re: [Pharo-project] Happy new year!

2012-01-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 02.01.2012 um 11:09 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse: Hi guys I wish you good health (because at the end this is the most important and when we are going well we do not estimate how cool it is). I read: Health is like freedom, we understand their importance when we lost it

[Pharo-project] VM crash on update

2012-01-04 Thread Milan Mimica
Hello! I can quite easily crash the VM when updating pharo 1.4 image (Right click - System - Software Update). It crashes almost always. VM is Cog r2522. (gdb) bt #0 markAndTrace (oop=-7168) at /home/eliot/oscogvm/src/vm/gcc3x-cointerp.c:20994 #1 0x080602c2 in markAndTraceStackPage

[Pharo-project] why World Menu System Software Update missing from Pharo 1.3

2012-01-04 Thread Ben Coman
Milan Mimica wrote: Hello! I can quite easily crash the VM when updating pharo 1.4 image (Right click - System - Software Update). It crashes almost always. VM is Cog r2522. As an aside, I actually went looking for a Software Update menu item in Pharo 1.3 yesterday and could not find it. I

Re: [Pharo-project] roadmap

2012-01-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
Can we lower tension a bit? To me it sounds as you are pretty much in sync. Am 03.01.2012 um 09:09 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse: Then my question is: How can anybody use Pharo that does not want to use your changes of AST and FS? Normally we talk and we reach a consensus. The issue here

Re: [Pharo-project] glamour and pharo ( roadmap)

2012-01-04 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 03.01.2012 15:44, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 3 January 2012 15:21, Ben Comanb...@openinworld.com wrote: I am reminded of an article Things You Should Never Do [1] by one of my favourite authors. This is not to discourage the clean out and re-architecture of Pharo which is overall a good

Re: [Pharo-project] roadmap

2012-01-04 Thread Tudor Girba
+1 On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Can we lower tension a bit? To me it sounds as you are pretty much in sync. Am 03.01.2012 um 09:09 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse: Then my question is: How can anybody use Pharo that does not want to use your changes of

Re: [Pharo-project] xpath queries

2012-01-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Alain, By mistake I somehow did not see this mail. Thanks for the pointer. I did not know about it. Looking at the repository, there is no license. Of course, this can be just a mistake, but as it stands, it mean it is not open source. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Alain

Re: [Pharo-project] xpath queries

2012-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
We can ask giovanni because he wrote it. Doru you can use the ConfigurationOfXMLSupport to load it. Stef On Jan 4, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi Alain, By mistake I somehow did not see this mail. Thanks for the pointer. I did not know about it. Looking at the repository,

Re: [Pharo-project] Happy new year!

2012-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Don't be too hard to yourself. Don't worry I'm not. Just thinking about life :) It is really hard to think about it until you develop some severe illness yourself. Or you decide to become a buddhist. Norbert

Re: [Pharo-project] why World Menu System Software Update missing from Pharo 1.3

2012-01-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jan 4, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Ben Coman wrote: Milan Mimica wrote: Hello! I can quite easily crash the VM when updating pharo 1.4 image (Right click - System - Software Update). It crashes almost always. VM is Cog r2522. As an aside, I actually went looking for a Software Update menu

Re: [Pharo-project] Prematurely ending document on purpose with the SAXParser

2012-01-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 03.01.2012 um 16:14 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: On 03 Jan 2012, at 13:31, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: I wonder what to do in this kind of situations. See 1) XML is one of the most important packages 2) There is no mailng-list for xml ? 3) Nobody replies and 4) You want latest

Re: [Pharo-project] TWM warning while loading

2012-01-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
laurent laffont wrote Is there a nice way to apply an extension only if the class is here ? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/TWM-warning-while-loading-tp4257854p4261459.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] TWM warning while loading

2012-01-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
laurent laffont wrote Is there a nice way to apply an extension only if the class is here ? Yes, see http://groups.google.com/group/metacello/browse_thread/thread/3545a13ba07b4c21 -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/TWM-warning-while-loading-tp4257854p4261463.html Sent

Re: [Pharo-project] About ConfigurationOfXMLSupport

2012-01-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 29.12.2011 um 23:04 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse: Hi guys I thought that XMLSupport was about parsing and XMLNode traversal. So why the configuration contains references to SIXX and Grease Core? It is called XMLSupport. So it combines xml support technologies (otherwise it should be named

Re: [Pharo-project] xpath queries

2012-01-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Actually, it seems I cannot. Or at least I do not know how. The problem is that Pastell is not mentioned in any group, and the 'default' group only points to Core. So, how do people load this? Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: We can

Re: [Pharo-project] xpath queries

2012-01-04 Thread ncalexan
Tudor Girba-2 wrote Actually, it seems I cannot. Or at least I do not know how. The problem is that Pastell is not mentioned in any group, and the 'default' group only points to Core. So, how do people load this? Hi Doru, I load ConfigurationOfXMLSupport as usual, then just loaded the

[Pharo-project] linesOfCode or another simple/understandable metric vaguely related to 'effort'

2012-01-04 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi: I see #linesOfCode in my image to get a basic idea of what I look at in terms of size. Are there any other 'simple' things? I have heard of Moose, but rather to visualize a system and to dig further into it. But I want rather to 'summarize' and 'compare'. Thus, the typical thing we often

Re: [Pharo-project] linesOfCode or another simple/understandable metric vaguely related to 'effort'

2012-01-04 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Check the attached. Check the class side method #ghostStats as an example. Just print the result. Cheers On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Stefan Marr smallt...@stefan-marr.dewrote: Hi: I see #linesOfCode in my image to get a basic idea of what I look at in terms of size. Are there any

[Pharo-project] happy new year plus cogdroid news

2012-01-04 Thread Alain Rastoul
Hi Pharo guys, First, let me wish you a happy new year, health, and success in your projects. I also wanted to mention that I started the first day of this year trying Pharo on an android tablet (sony) with my develoment image (Pharo 1.3 with lot of stuff loaded : seaside, glorp, dbx, moose

Re: [Pharo-project] linesOfCode or another simple/understandable metric vaguely related to 'effort'

2012-01-04 Thread Janko Mivšek
Hi Stefan, Code Mariano sent is used for doing this stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Atnb1W9vuq9ndG4wbUpxNXpKQnFZRlFyQXpHclhZa2c and can be found also here: http://www.squeaksource.com/WebCodeStats.html Best regards Janko S, Mariano Martinez Peck piše: Check the attached.

Re: [Pharo-project] linesOfCode or another simple/understandable metric vaguely related to 'effort'

2012-01-04 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
2012/1/4 Janko Mivšek janko.miv...@eranova.si Hi Stefan, Code Mariano sent is used for doing this stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Atnb1W9vuq9ndG4wbUpxNXpKQnFZRlFyQXpHclhZa2c and can be found also here: http://www.squeaksource.com/WebCodeStats.html Sorry I forgot to

Re: [Pharo-project] linesOfCode or another simple/understandable metric vaguely related to 'effort'

2012-01-04 Thread Janko Mivšek
S, Mariano Martinez Peck piše: 2012/1/4 Janko Mivšek janko.miv...@eranova.si mailto:janko.miv...@eranova.si Code Mariano sent is used for doing this stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Atnb1W9vuq9ndG4wbUpxNXpKQnFZRlFyQXpHclhZa2c and can be found also here:

Re: [Pharo-project] linesOfCode or another simple/understandable metric vaguely related to 'effort'

2012-01-04 Thread Stefan Marr
Hi: On 04 Jan 2012, at 23:34, Janko Mivšek wrote: S, Mariano Martinez Peck piše: Sorry I forgot to mention you did them ;) I am trying to remember if I change something but I think I didn't. No problem Mariano, I just wanted to encourage Stefan to look at the code by impressing him with

[Pharo-project] Pharo by Example

2012-01-04 Thread Gerry Weaver
Hello All, I'm new to Pharo and SmallTalk. I am trying to follow Pharo by Example, but my Pharo browser is not the same. I tried to follow the FAQ about how to fix that, but the drop down menu doesn't look the same either. Should I be using a different version of Pharo? I'm using 1.3. Thanks,

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by Example

2012-01-04 Thread Serge Stinckwich
2012/1/5 Gerry Weaver ger...@compvia.com: Hello All, I'm new to Pharo and SmallTalk. I am trying to follow Pharo by Example, but my Pharo browser is not the same. I tried to follow the FAQ about how to fix that, but the drop down menu doesn't look the same either. Should I be using a

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by Example

2012-01-04 Thread Gerry Weaver
Hi Serge, Wow! Thanks for the speedy reply. I will do as you suggest. Thanks, Gerry  -Original Message- From: Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Date: 01/04/12 19:07 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by Example 2012/1/5

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by Example

2012-01-04 Thread Gerry Weaver
Hi, I've been trying various downloads, but I haven't found anything that works. I guess I may be making it harder than it needs to be, but I really have no idea how to proceed. I've been trying to find some doc on basic things like creating a package, class, etc., but I'm not having much

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by Example

2012-01-04 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Gerry Weaver ger...@compvia.com wrote: Hi, I've been trying various downloads, but I haven't found anything that works. I guess I may be making it harder than it needs to be, but I really have no idea how to proceed. I've been trying to find some doc on

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by Example

2012-01-04 Thread Gerry Weaver
Hi Serge, I guess I don't know what I'm supposed to load the image into. I've tried the VM downloads on the site, but they all crash when trying to open the image. Is there a particular VM I need to use with the image at the link you provided? I should probably mention that I would really be

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by Example

2012-01-04 Thread Gerry Weaver
Hi, Perhaps I should just take a shot at explaining what I'm having trouble understanding. My current take on the environment is that an image is basically a container that holds everything in the application. In development mode it also includes the IDE and tools. I assume one would

[Pharo-project] Tomcat on Smalltalk/X

2012-01-04 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi, I would like to mention an interesting success by colleauges from Smalltalk/X. They are able to run Tomcat directly on their stX:libJava. https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/blog/libjava_tomcat Cheers, -- Pavel

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by Example

2012-01-04 Thread Max Leske
Hi Gerry From your talk of application entry points it seems to me that you might be talking about web development with Pharo. In that case PharoByExample won't help you much. Maybe, if you could tell us what you are trying to accomplish, we would be able to help you better. Right now, at