Re: [Pharo-project] Please review DrGeo

2012-10-28 Thread Olivier Auverlot
Hi Hilaire, Could you provide a direct download of the free version of drGeo on the drGeo web site because many Android tablets have no access to Google Play ? Another solution is to distribute your product on the other Android shops (Amazon, Archos appstore, Luxia download center, Soc.io

[Pharo-project] [update 2.0] #20368

2012-10-28 Thread Marcus Denker
20368 - Issue 6868: Failing test: Tests.Release.ReleaseTest.testUnpackagedClasses http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6868 MCWorkingCopy allManagers do: #packageSet. RPackageOrganizer initialize Diff information: -- Marcus Denker --

Re: [Pharo-project] Tips for efficient multi-serial handling

2012-10-28 Thread Udo Schneider
Hi Sven, Dealing with a set of IO channels using 1 thread/process per channel like you describe should not be a problem. To do it efficiently, you have to consider if the low level API you are dealing with is blocking or not. If it is blocking (optionally with a timeout), like for

Re: [Pharo-project] Tips for efficient multi-serial handling

2012-10-28 Thread Udo Schneider
Hi Sebastian, thanks for the pointer - I'll take a look at it. From what I can tell this is basically node.js with a Smalltalk-JavaScript cross-interpreter. Definitely looks interesting! Best Regards, Udo On 27.10.12 13:24, Sebastian Sastre wrote: Hey Udo! well, if node does a great

Re: [Pharo-project] Tips for efficient multi-serial handling

2012-10-28 Thread Udo Schneider
Hi Stef, but isn't Amber targeting the client side? My Deployment Platform would be the server. Best Regards, Udo On 27.10.12 17:30, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: better look at amber (because it is better to get the original than the copy). Stef Hey Udo! well, if node does a great job and

[Pharo-project] Bug 6596

2012-10-28 Thread Benoit St-Jean
Hello everyone, While looking at bug 6596, I started wondering why we didn't have more options to print dates (and/or their parts).  I've gathered date formats printing options from various sources and started implementing all those different formats and options. I have implemented 6 new

Re: [Pharo-project] How to deliver real-time web and mobile applications?

2012-10-28 Thread Herby Vojčík
Interesting thoughts, but it reminds me of: 1. CouchDB. It is able to connect and synchronize two-way, master-master, and has implementation for server as well as for mobile, so, in a way, they are already there - you work, online of offline, on the same data. But they have problems, when

Re: [Pharo-project] How to deliver real-time web and mobile applications?

2012-10-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Awesome vision Seba! It leaves me with the kind of unrealistic feeling that great ideas provoke :D 3 thoughts: 1. homogeneity sounds great but the tech future is heterogeneous (and not a little but in a Long Tail fashion!) 2. dynamic technologies already won. So we might try to take more

Re: [Pharo-project] Please review DrGeo

2012-10-28 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
I can't. I am bound to GooglePlay once I start using it. Hilaire Le 28/10/2012 08:42, Olivier Auverlot a écrit : Hi Hilaire, Could you provide a direct download of the free version of drGeo on the drGeo web site because many Android tablets have no access to Google Play ? Another

[Pharo-project] File sharing on the network

2012-10-28 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Hello Is there anyway to implement fileshareing with Dropbox or GoogleDrive on a Pharo client application? Thanks Hilaire

Re: [Pharo-project] File sharing on the network

2012-10-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
why not? https://www.dropbox.com/developers/start https://developers.google.com/drive/ sebastian o/ On Oct 28, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Hello Is there anyway to implement fileshareing with Dropbox or GoogleDrive on a Pharo client application? Thanks Hilaire

Re: [Pharo-project] File sharing on the network

2012-10-28 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
So it does not need any Smalltalk code ? Does it work with http messages or something like that? I am total newby on that. I wrote an interface for file shareing through FTP with DrGeo (on its repo) but it is too cryptic for users. Hilaire Le 28/10/2012 17:11, Sebastian Sastre a écrit : why

Re: [Pharo-project] Tips for efficient multi-serial handling

2012-10-28 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 28 October 2012 10:45, Udo Schneider udo.schnei...@homeaddress.de wrote: Hi Sven, Dealing with a set of IO channels using 1 thread/process per channel like you describe should not be a problem. To do it efficiently, you have to consider if the low level API you are dealing with is

Re: [Pharo-project] Tips for efficient multi-serial handling

2012-10-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 28, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Udo Schneider wrote: Hi Stef, but isn't Amber targeting the client side? My Deployment Platform would be the server. yes amber is more client side. But if you have a JS VM on a server then Amber is server side. Now we should definitively improves the

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug 6596

2012-10-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 28, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Benoit St-Jean wrote: Hello everyone, While looking at bug 6596, I started wondering why we didn't have more options to print dates (and/or their parts). I've gathered date formats printing options from various sources and started implementing all those

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug 6596

2012-10-28 Thread Benoit St-Jean
Yeah, same thing here...  But I was wondering about other languages...  I mean, yes we can support French and English but what about Spanish, Italian, etc?  Should we use the NaturalLanguageTranslator tool/mechanism ?   - Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean A standpoint is

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug 6596

2012-10-28 Thread Camillo Bruni
I started a (STAMP)[https://github.com/jeremyw/stamp] port for Pharo http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/dh83/c/main which follows an example drive date-formatting scheme. Instead of using a cryptic compressed form you use an example string DateAndTime now stompFormat: '2012-12-31 14:32:12'.

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug 6596

2012-10-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Oct 2012, at 18:07, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: I started a (STAMP)[https://github.com/jeremyw/stamp] port for Pharo http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/dh83/c/main which follows an example drive date-formatting scheme. Instead of using a cryptic compressed form you use an

Re: [Pharo-project] Tips for efficient multi-serial handling

2012-10-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
yeah right? a great way to completely wipe out all that CoffeScript hype :D and take a look a this too! https://github.com/NicolasPetton/amber/tree/master/examples/nodejs and maybe this: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/amber-lang/sd5UwcXv8mg an architecture that can provide results

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug 6596

2012-10-28 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-10-28, at 18:38, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 28 Oct 2012, at 18:07, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: I started a (STAMP)[https://github.com/jeremyw/stamp] port for Pharo http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/dh83/c/main which follows an example drive

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug 6596

2012-10-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Oct 2012, at 11:08, Benoit St-Jean bstj...@yahoo.com wrote: Comments, complaints and suggestions are welcome! Both formatting AND (strict) parsing should be provided, symmetrically. Names of months and weekdays should be translatable into arbitrary languages, probably other aspects as

Re: [Pharo-project] File sharing on the network

2012-10-28 Thread Alexandre Bergel
So it does not need any Smalltalk code ? Does it work with http messages or something like that? I think so since you get files from a webbrowser Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu

Re: [Pharo-project] File sharing on the network

2012-10-28 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Le 28/10/2012 20:30, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : So it does not need any Smalltalk code ? Does it work with http messages or something like that? I think so since you get files from a webbrowser Alexandre Do you know Smalltalk code example I can get inspiration from ? Thanks Hilaire

Re: [Pharo-project] File sharing on the network

2012-10-28 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2012-10-28, at 20:38, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@edu.ge.ch wrote: Le 28/10/2012 20:30, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : So it does not need any Smalltalk code ? Does it work with http messages or something like that? I think so since you get files from a webbrowser Alexandre

Re: [Pharo-project] File sharing on the network

2012-10-28 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Le 28/10/2012 20:48, Camillo Bruni a écrit : Do you know Smalltalk code example I can get inspiration from ? If you plan to go big, why not an Amazon S3 backend for FileSystem? I checked once, shouldn't be that much of work. Once you got that, sharing files is as easy as accessing local

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug 6596

2012-10-28 Thread Benoit St-Jean
Unfortunately Stéphane, it looks like someone put the axe in all the Localization/Translation stuff...  Unless there's a new Locale/Translation framework and I missed it, it'll take some major effort to be able to print months, week days and other stuff in French or any other language!  :( 

Re: [Pharo-project] File sharing on the network

2012-10-28 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Zinc should do the thing I guess. I have no experience in that as well Alexandre On Oct 28, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@edu.ge.ch wrote: Le 28/10/2012 20:30, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : So it does not need any Smalltalk code ? Does it work with http messages or

[Pharo-project] Localization and translation

2012-10-28 Thread Benoit St-Jean
Bonjour Stéphane, I seem to have found the cause of the problem with Locale and translation :  http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2424 Is this migration to gettext still en route and active? Was it abandoned? If we want a truly multilingual Pharo (and/or at least provide support

Re: [Pharo-project] File sharing on the network

2012-10-28 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Le 28/10/2012 20:30, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : So it does not need any Smalltalk code ? Does it work with http messages or something like that? I think so since you get files from a webbrowser Alexandre Do you know Smalltalk code example I can get inspiration from ?

Re: [Pharo-project] Tips for efficient multi-serial handling

2012-10-28 Thread Udo Schneider
Hi Igor I should have written process with a capital P. I meant the Smalltalk class Process - a OS process :-) Best Regards, Udo On 28.10.12 17:44, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 28 October 2012 10:45, Udo Schneider udo.schneider-1km8gppntmzsorrrgtp...@public.gmane.org wrote: Hi Sven,

Re: [Pharo-project] Localization and translation

2012-10-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Bonjour Stéphane, I seem to have found the cause of the problem with Locale and translation : http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2424 Is this migration to gettext still en route and active? Was it abandoned? No abandoned but not top priority. If we want a truly

Re: [Pharo-project] [Bug] New critical issue for 2.0 6885

2012-10-28 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Issue 6885: Image can't starts and hangs when can't found required free type font files On Oct 28, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: Hello. I open new ticket http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6885 And I think it is very critical to be solved in 2.0. Best

Re: [Pharo-project] Localization and translation

2012-10-28 Thread Benoit St-Jean
What does it mean truly?    Well, I guess more and more people would make their apps multilingual if they had a localization/translation framework.  I guess this is especially true in Europe (and in Quebec for sure!) but also in many specific parts of the USA (for instance in Texas I guess one

Re: [Pharo-project] How to deliver real-time web and mobile applications?

2012-10-28 Thread Craig Latta
Hi Sebastian-- Imagine having 2 related VMs (or unrelated, but with some related object graph) in two parts of the world. One user changes one object in the fist one, another changes another (or the same) object in the second one. When they contact the cloud they synchronize automatically

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug. Incredible date parsing by StringasDate

2012-10-28 Thread Chris Cunningham
you are aware that both of those dates are correct, just in different parts of the world? Of course, the first could be 1 March, 2012 just a easily as 3 January, 2012. If you make it consistent, which way are you leaning towards? Maybe more specific asXXXDate keywords to indicate which one you

Re: [Pharo-project] File sharing on the network

2012-10-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Oct 2012, at 20:48, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: If you plan to go big, why not an Amazon S3 backend for FileSystem? I checked once, shouldn't be that much of work. There is Zinc-AWS, that can read/write to/from Amazon S3. The basic stuff works just fine, not all of the

Re: [Pharo-project] Localization and translation

2012-10-28 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 28.10.2012 21:37, Benoit St-Jean wrote: Bonjour Stéphane, I seem to have found the cause of the problem with Locale and translation : http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2424 Is this migration to gettext still en route and active? Was it abandoned? If we want a truly

Re: [Pharo-project] File sharing on the network

2012-10-28 Thread Sebastian Sastre
both have fantastic usability and sounds like they will add great (and familiar) value to your product what I would do is to start using the Zinc http client from a client object (say DropboxAPI and GoogleDriveAPI) and move forward one command and reaction to its response at the time add