[Pharo-project] migrating PharoNonCorePackages/Sound to PharoExtras/Sound

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi guys I will also copy the configuration files from MetacelloRepository. Then I will update these configurations to propose SoundSynthesis SoundScore SoundTools Then I will try to make them work on 2.0 Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] where to report vm crashes? (while running Moose tests)

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: thanks doru! Hi, Where should I report Pharo VM crashes with Pharo 2.0? here first :) In particular, I wanted to report the problem related to running Moose tests from

Re: [Pharo-project] where to report vm crashes? (while running Moose tests)

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
more clear :) Ok :) Cheers, Doru On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:54 AM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Doru You cannot expect people to work when there are on vacation :). BTW I only saw the second report. In addition this is why we are building the consortium

Re: [Pharo-project] where to report vm crashes? (while running Moose tests)

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 12, 2013, at 11:02 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Thank you very much. It makes a lot of sense doing things the Pharo way. Now, I have been trying to get the InterpreterSimulator to work in Pharo but there are some things to fix before being able to do so (one is to have an image in

Re: [Pharo-project] Zeroconf: config command issue - oops

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
add a bug entry so that we handle it. Sred On Mar 12, 2013, at 12:10 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: In the book, we have that config should show the help. As in: Examples: # display this help message $PharoVM My.image config but...

Re: [Pharo-project] Help with MenuMorph

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
, 2013, at 10:25 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: The problem is that selectedValue will not work on other menuItem :) So I'm playing with something like that. setFFTSize Set the size of the FFT used for frequency analysis. | aMenu sz on | aMenu

Re: [Pharo-project] migrating PharoNonCorePackages/Sound to PharoExtras/Sound

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Silly me I was not aware that there was pharosound so I will migrate it. Stef On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:42 AM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Hi guys I will also copy the configuration files from MetacelloRepository. Then I will update these configurations to propose

Re: [Pharo-project] When is 2.0 shipping?

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Normally it was last friday and we decide to postpone it until today. Then the snow came and blocked everybody at home. So probably tomorrow. Stef As I saw 11/3 in the fogbugz tracker, I wondered. BTW, hi there, Penelope :-) Funny! Phil

Re: [Pharo-project] beta 1.4 documentation online

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
yes, maybe let's wait until next weekend :) since it doesn't run under 2.0 yet :P. I won't work on during the day :P that is reserved for Guido and the paper… I love to read that :)

Re: [Pharo-project] Porting SmaCC from 1.4 to 2.0; doSilently: equivalent ?

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Thierry I added you to the PharoExtras team and I created a project for Smacc. owner: PharoExtras project: Smacc … After I can have a look and create a ci job :) On Mar 12, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: Le 11/03/2013 17:45, stephane ducasse a écrit

Re: [Pharo-project] Help with MenuMorph

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Jannik I'm studying right now choose… So I think that I will add a method add: value: to the instance side to see how it look like. Stef chooseFrom: aList lines: linesArray title: queryString Choose an item from the given list. Answer the index of the selected item.

Re: [Pharo-project] some little aif files

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
Simple they are in the SoundLibrary class variable of SampledSound Stef On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: There are creative commons sounds here: http://soundbible.com/free-sound-effects-3.html but they should be converted to aiff In other hand,

Re: [Pharo-project] Latest pharo issue with Eliot's latest Cog

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 12, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, I understand and encourage the streamlining of efforts. And I have no problem with dealing with the bumps of living on the latest version, be it the VM or the image. But, please consider the point of view of the

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
sounds like a cool set of issues :) On Mar 12, 2013, at 5:04 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: * Trying out new image and messing around, reporting bugs in the process * Reporting issues with the iOS VM build * Getting the iOS VM to

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:08 PM, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter!

Re: [Pharo-project] about communication and collaboration

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Dear Pharoers last january I visited another lab and I realised that the Pharo Team was not good at systematically telling

Re: [Pharo-project] World menu System Switch User : What's that?

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
We forgot to remove it. But the idea is to provide different user experience and capability. Stef I was wondering what this was for? Permissions? Huh? Thanks for shedding some light on that! Phil PharoScreenshot.1.png

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting SoundRecorder to work: how?

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
PharoExtras/Sound on SmalltalkHub On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:33 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: No, link please? 2013/3/12 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr: did you try with the new Sound configuration I just published on SmalltalkHub? On Mar 12, 2013, at 5:11

Re: [Pharo-project] beta 1.4 documentation online

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 12, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-03-12, at 19:39, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Why don't we add a link in the Pharo website with such an online help? It would be nice if this is indexable by Google. once I fixed the

Re: [Pharo-project] Help with MenuMorph

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
of these days. I think that cleaning again a bit more is needed. I added some entries in fogbugz for that. Stef On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:23 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: Jannik I'm studying right now choose… So I think that I will add a method add: value: to the instance

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting SoundRecorder to work: how?

2013-03-12 Thread stephane ducasse
I tried too on 2.0 and RecordingControlsMorph new openInWorld (show will not work because it was relying on a soundNamed: 'croak' - do not ask me if this is a good idea or design to define class that cannot initialize themselves) Now it looks like the buffers are not filled up. I should try

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting SoundRecorder to work: how?

2013-03-13 Thread stephane ducasse
In fact recordedSound as a sequentialSound… but I know nothing there. Stef On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:27 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: I tried too on 2.0 and RecordingControlsMorph new openInWorld (show will not work because it was relying on a soundNamed: 'croak' - do

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24

2013-03-14 Thread stephane ducasse
Alex did you get a real look on the profiler of Andreas? Did it help? I would like to understand when it is really better? Stef On Mar 13, 2013, at 3:26 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger-driven development (was Re: WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24)

2013-03-14 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi Frank Since you are present in the Pharo mailing-list, may be you want to send the code to get it included into pharo, please do it? (Squeak trunk now lets you create methods not just on an MNU but also where people have things like self subclassResponsibility, self notYetImplemented or

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24

2013-03-14 Thread stephane ducasse
Sven - update Zinc documentation before PharoConf It would be good if you could edit the pier.txt so that we can see if you handle it. I have a list of remarks still pending that I always wanted to add to your documents. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] how to use Shared smalltalk workspaces?

2013-03-15 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Esteban, On 14 Mar 2013, at 13:39, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: I'll see what I can do... I added a simple web interface to create a new Shared Smalltalk Workspace to http://ws.stfx.eu From the

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Some love to NBOpenGL (making it up-to-date with pharo 2.0)

2013-03-15 Thread stephane ducasse
I love green :) Do not forget to create a jenkins job on https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/ https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/NBOpenGL/ On 2013-03-14, at 16:58, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] grease-core extensions that exist in pharo 2.0

2013-03-16 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi doru excellent! We would really like to integrate more of the nice extensions of grease into pharo. So this would be a nice opportunity and it should be simple to do using a configuration. If you need help let us know. Stef PS: yes we want the best infrastructure we can :) On Mar 15,

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Log of the retrospective analysis from Pharo 2.0

2013-03-16 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Thanks for the report. It's great to see you doing a retrospective. I hope you will do it regularly :). Yes we will do that everything cycle. a cycle will be around a month. Cheers, Doru On Mar 15, 2013, at

Re: [Pharo-project] WhatsUp from: 2013-03-11 until: 2013-03-24

2013-03-17 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks damien :) On Mar 17, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Damien Pollet damien.pol...@gmail.com wrote: Ok… apparently the day-of-month and day-of-week fields in a crontab do not act as AND but as OR. Now the email should get sent on 1st and 3rd mondays only. On 17 March 2013 07:00,

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug with drag and drop

2013-03-17 Thread stephane ducasse
fogz bugs :) On Mar 17, 2013, at 7:29 PM, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a bug with drag and dropping windows inside Pharo. For example, take Nautilus and drag-drop the browser outside pharo. It should come back to its place, but there is a MessageNotUnderstood:

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug with drag and drop

2013-03-18 Thread stephane ducasse
wrote: ok, where is it ? Jannik On Mar 17, 2013, at 9:01 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: fogz bugs :) On Mar 17, 2013, at 7:29 PM, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a bug with drag and dropping windows inside Pharo. For example

Re: [Pharo-project] moose job on jenkins

2013-03-18 Thread stephane ducasse
Doru in your blog you did not mention if you added the tag on the class side of the handler. I have the impression that you have to. May be I could use your blog as an example for the zeroConfig chapter. Stef On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Camillo,

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] [ANN] Pharo 2.0

2013-03-18 Thread stephane ducasse
For those of you that want to know a bit more: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/w/edit/ActionsInPharo20 Here is a log of all the actions done in 2.0. The idea is not to replicate the bug tracker, as it is easy to get a complete list

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo 2.0

2013-03-18 Thread stephane ducasse
I love this picture!!! Stef Lighthouse-Rocket-Launch--55330.jpg

Re: [Pharo-project] [Esug-list] [ANN] Pharo 2.0

2013-03-18 Thread stephane ducasse
Marcus On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:10 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: First link fails. it is http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharo20 2013/3/18 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 3

2013-03-19 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:48 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: I wonder If the March/April integrations don't break any existing API, and the new debugger runs in parallel with the old one, then maybe that might be a 2.x release, and move to 3.0 only when PackageInfo and the old

Re: [Pharo-project] some little aif files

2013-03-19 Thread stephane ducasse
| SampledSound playSoundNamed: each ]. --- so it seemed to work, but I can't hear anything. I attach the fuel file, so to reproduce you can just put it in the image directory and evaluate my code above. Best, Martín On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:52 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Next steps of the Pharo Kernel

2013-03-19 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 19, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, this is the list of things that should be done for at start of the Pharo 3.0 release: - make KeyChain package (UsersManager) standalone package or at least clean Kernel and MC dependencies. Yes - include

Re: [Pharo-project] PharoSound does not have the same behavior in a one-click

2013-03-19 Thread stephane ducasse
may be a plugin is not found. Could you print the VM version for both images ? Smalltalk vm version or something like that Stef On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:35 PM, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: I tried with the latest version available on Pharo website :) Jannik On Mar 19, 2013,

Re: [Pharo-project] how to know plugins directory ?

2013-03-19 Thread stephane ducasse
Jannik to know if the plugin is found by the VM you should do SmalltalkImage current listBuiltinModules SmalltalkImage current listLoadedModules Stef On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:40 PM, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Is there a way to obtain the

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

2013-03-19 Thread stephane ducasse
ben may be we should explain that the penelope web site and I agree with phil that the monkey picture is a bit strong On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: FogBugz does not provide (yet) a way for non logged on user to see the open entries (why

Re: [Pharo-project] Penelope is in town! (or how to have access to the new issue tracker)

2013-03-20 Thread stephane ducasse
about Ulysse. Nicolas 2013/3/19 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr: ben may be we should explain that the penelope web site and I agree with phil that the monkey picture is a bit strong On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: FogBugz

Re: [Pharo-project] Running tests on 2.0 and first impression

2013-03-20 Thread stephane ducasse
Hello nicolas I know what you think about seeing code changes. So what can we do to improve it. I'm in favor to send diff to the mailing-lists especially since SmalltalkHub will support the charge now. Stef Totally agree, but for this specific bug I think that the process can be improved

Re: [Pharo-project] Running tests on 2.0 and first impression

2013-03-20 Thread stephane ducasse
Maybe renaming the instance variables to reflect their UTC nature would help, but there is a difference between internal representation and external behaviour - if it is documented that seems OK to me. The #midnight example probably needs an extra normalisation of the internal

Re: [Pharo-project] Running tests on 2.0 and first impression

2013-03-20 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 20, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Miguel Moquillon miguel.moquil...@gmail.com wrote: You're lucky, because in my own machine running GNU/Linux Ubuntu 12.04 the tests running in Pharo 2.0 either kills the VM or most of the time freezes the environment, depending on the weather… this is fun

Re: [Pharo-project] Running tests on 2.0 and first impression

2013-03-20 Thread stephane ducasse
My little contribution logically comes after the release mainly for these reasons 1) my previous attempts to catch up with 2.0 were abandonned because deep changes were going on, a bit too much instability for too little time 2) the buzz convinced me to try again on a more stabilized image

Re: [Pharo-project] about mac/win/linux VM for 2.0?

2013-03-20 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks! On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't planned it, but I can do it... it should be quite trivial :) Esteban On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Esteban do you plan to do the same that

Re: [Pharo-project] where is the inbox for 3.0?

2013-03-22 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks We should add it to 3.0a Stef On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: MCHttpRepository location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30Inbox/main' user: '' password: '' Ben On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] one-click is dead, now we have platform specific builds

2013-03-22 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Dennis Groves dennis.gro...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 Mar 2013, at 8:08, Camillo Bruni wrote: can you add a issue tracker entry? yes I already reported it: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10062#72825 Thank you, I haven't ever used fogbugz before,

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem downloading packages with Monticello from Smalltalkhub because of setAcceptEncodingGzip

2013-03-22 Thread stephane ducasse
Andrei we will introduce your debugger model in 3.0a. It is ok? Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] Configurations PetitParser, Grease and Seaside31 for Pharo20

2013-03-22 Thread stephane ducasse
Since the configuration of Seaside 3.1 is still unfinished: contact me if you would like to have this configuration, or SeasideRest and/or Magritte, as they depend on Seaside 3.1. The configurations of Grease and PetitParser are done and load properly. I included them here. Can I put

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30008

2013-03-22 Thread stephane ducasse
10094 Slice copy just copy the slice https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10094/ excellent!!! Now hen we copy a slice all its dependents get copied too :) Thanks ben. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] New consortium member: Thanks a lot High Octane!

2013-03-22 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 22, 2013, at 5:32 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Hello, My pleasure. Hope to generate decent money with the platform so that I can drown you guys in cash. BTW, I do have an opportunity for something pretty around real-time dynamic inventory management calculations, if you have the

Re: [Pharo-project] SocketStream#next:

2013-03-23 Thread stephane ducasse
+1 I'm all in for fixing and getting a simpler and nicer system. #nextAvailable: says better what we mean, agreed. But the 'available' word is not used anywhere else either. As Igor showed, how can the strange #next: behavior be useful ? I am more for simplifying what we have, instead

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalkhub non-mcz files

2013-03-24 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 24, 2013, at 3:36 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Does Smalltalkhub allow non-mcz files into the repository - for example for file based data required for Tests and examples? not that I know. Or what is the preferred way of versioning test data and example data along

Re: [Pharo-project] Please help! Weird error!

2013-03-24 Thread stephane ducasse
weird bugs with hash and = redefinition? On Mar 24, 2013, at 5:14 AM, Steven R. Baker ste...@stevenrbaker.com wrote: Heya folks, I've got a failing test here, screenshot attached. When I inspect events, it contains the mock I'm looking for. For some reason, the self assert: (events

Re: [Pharo-project] Contribution CI Semantics

2013-03-24 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks, I would like that - but I'll hold off until I have time to look at it properly - after I finish writing up my dissertation use pomodoro technique to get focused and get rid of it :). - when I want to move my project to Pharo 2.0, create a Configuration and add it as a CI

Re: [Pharo-project] one-click is dead, now we have platform specific builds

2013-03-24 Thread stephane ducasse
You are probably right. Now we are all underestimating the amount of energy that we spend on addressing stupid/boring/idiot issues that unfortunately must be done. Yes esteban, marcus and Igor I know you know. I think that in general we do not value these little issues, we believe that somebody

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] 9 issues need reviews

2013-03-24 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks I will try to allocate time to have a look at them. Stef Hi, Even with the integrations of saturday, there was a lot done that need attention: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/22/3-0-Integration 6 are ready to be integrated, 9 need a code review. (for getting

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading webdoc

2013-03-24 Thread stephane ducasse
I guess I missed the point, but can't we just make the configuration do whatever the jenkins job does and declare it as the development version for 2.0? We (as the Pharo community) will most probably have to do that, but it is not the right way or the best for the future. Seaside

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Phratch: Scratch on Pharo2.0

2013-03-24 Thread stephane ducasse
Hi Jannik and Bernat I was wondering if it is necessary to keep the CCodeGenerator and Primitives-Plugins inside the system. In addition may be this code is really outdated so may be packaging it in a separate package for archival would make sense. I'm surprised that so many classes do not

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Phratch: Scratch on Pharo2.0

2013-03-24 Thread stephane ducasse
ScratchFrameMorph open It does not work Path / 'Users' / 'ducasse' / 'Workspace' / 'FirstCircle' / 'ActiveResearch' / 'Pharo' / 'PharoHarvestingFixes' / '20' / 'Released' / 'ScratchSkin' not found. Stef

Re: [Pharo-project] redefining default smalltalk shortcuts in (pluggable)textmorph

2013-03-24 Thread stephane ducasse
You can also try to do: aMorph on: $s cmd do: [ my custom code ]. guillermo we will have to fix the api before it spreads :) The only thing is that PluggableTextmorph+friends are a bit of a mess, so the code that initializes the shortcuts is here: no a large mess :) Alain is

Re: [Pharo-project] redefining default smalltalk shortcuts in (pluggable)textmorph

2013-03-24 Thread stephane ducasse
You can also try to do: aMorph on: $s cmd do: [ my custom code ]. guillermo we will have to fix the api before it spreads :) Pharo 2.0 summer? :D :D https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoForTheEnterprise-english/blob/master/KeyMapping/KeyMapping.pier :)

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading webdoc

2013-03-24 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 24, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: it does not load and fails on the strange statement: spec configuration: 'Swazoo2' with: [ spec version: #stable; loads: #( 'Swazoo'); repository:

Re: [Pharo-project] Spec documentation and examples

2013-03-25 Thread stephane ducasse
thnkas daniela we should update the spec tutorial and turn it into a chapter. Probably during the 14 hours train to the pharo conf we will give a try to fix it. Stef Hi: I'm starting to develop with pharo using spec. I really like the spec approach. I already review some examples that

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for media to illustrate one important idea :)

2013-03-25 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/3/25 Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com: or do you know how Egyptians created their obelisks? Hundreds of them were sitting in a pit and were beating again and again with small stones for moths and

Re: [Pharo-project] HOPomodoro (was Contribution CI Semantics)

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
Cool :) One of my plan for 3.0 is more agile tools :) I have started a new auto test, and I wanted a Pomodoro :) Yes I want more tdd tools. Now pay attention not to be too BigBrother. Now we can join forces :) What I thought was cool is a pomodoro which block the ui during pauses, log

Re: [Pharo-project] Suggestion about Phexample and StateSpecs(Mocketry) integration

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: I am a big fan of stupid english: `foo should isKindOf: Bar` vs. `foo should be an instance of: Bar` + 1

Re: [Pharo-project] Suggestion about Phexample and StateSpecs(Mocketry) integration

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 26, 2013, at 7:46 AM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: If I want to figure out how the first one works, I can simply browse the implementors of #should and/or #isKindOf: where is the StateSpec version I am lost. I have to rely on contains string literal to get the sources,

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for media to illustrate one important idea :)

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
I'm trying to make people using pharo understanding that the consortium and the association are a huge opportunity to make the future better. I look forward to know why :) Because without a legal structure how can you collect money? how can indivirduals or small companies can get an

Re: [Pharo-project] looking for media to illustrate one important idea :)

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
, Philippe 2013/3/25 Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com: 2013/3/25 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr: I'm looking for labor and many tasks :) Something like a space launch control center would do it? Stephane: Does it need to be shown as a picture? It can be in words as long

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30013

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
It totally agree. However we could have cleaned the senders of those deprecated first, because DNUs will appear eventually. Ok then this is ok to me. normally the person who deprecates a method should fix all senders. I was so sure that this is the case that I did not even check.

Re: [Pharo-project] GSoC13: Google Summer of Code started, your ideas please!

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
Camille excellent idea!!! Stef On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Janko, Here is another project proposition. Programming tools for Pharo based on Type Inference Level: intermediate/advanced Possible mentor: Camille Teruel Possible

Re: [Pharo-project] GSoC13: Google Summer of Code started, your ideas please!

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
yes for example. Stef On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I like this project proposal. A little addition would be to add type inference for code written in the inspector where we already have concrete types that we could leverage for development tools.

Re: [Pharo-project] GSoC13: Google Summer of Code started, your ideas please!

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote: That includes both Francisco Garau's and Santiago Bragagnolo's work on Concrete Type Inference, yes we should build on top of them. I wish francisco would like to continue pushing his master with us but he is busy

Re: [Pharo-project] [3.0] 9 issues need reviews

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
No I can tell you that this is not what I got :) May be now this is ok but I just add a list with fix it if time allows…. Stf On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: now 15 issues need a review. now 18 issues need a review. How do I see them?

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] More GSoC ideas wanted, 3 days left ....

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Janko Mivšek janko.miv...@eranova.si wrote: Hi Stef, Dne 26. 03. 2013 13:35, piše stephane ducasse: Janko Can you put andrei chis and nicolas passerini for Debugger improvment projects. Put where? As mentors? Yes they are more into it. I know

Re: [Pharo-project] GSoC idea: Spec over Aida component model

2013-03-26 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the explanation :) My question was more Can I be a student for project Foo and a mentor for project Bar ? yes I do not see why :) Ben On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Janko Mivšek

Re: [Pharo-project] in anybody out there? who uses 2.0?

2013-03-27 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks! STef Esteban wrote: Here in Pharo headquarters we are shock that there are just 10 new bugs reported for 2.0 after the release... So... I wonder... is that because we made a really cool release, or just because nobody is using it? It is a cool release and we are using it.

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for a Seaside 3.1 Configuration for Pharo 2.0

2013-03-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Excellent! I really want to demo Seaside with 2.0 I'm merging mine and Paul's configuration for Seaside 3.0.7 into Diego's and Stefan's work. Of course, there's always stuff that gets in the way of finishing that (like moving our offices ;-). I hope to have one by end of the week for

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for a Seaside 3.1 Configuration for Pharo 2.0

2013-03-28 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks Paul. I should say that I would have love not to have 3.0.1. 3.0.2 so I'm really eager to get seaside 3.1 out but at least something that can be marketed as movement. Stef On Mar 27, 2013, at 11:29 PM, Paul DeBruicker pdebr...@gmail.com wrote: Stéphane

Re: [Pharo-project] Nautilus: Class Side vs. Instance Side

2013-03-28 Thread stephane ducasse
did you see that when there is no class methods the checkbox tell it to you ;) Hi people, I've installed Pharo 2.0 to give it a try. All good until now! Looking at Nautilus I see that where there used to be two buttons for switching between class-side and instance-side methods, now

Re: [Pharo-project] in anybody out there? who uses 2.0?

2013-03-28 Thread stephane ducasse
we should plit that in bug entries and take actions collectively :) On Mar 28, 2013, at 4:56 AM, Yanni Chiu ya...@rogers.com wrote: On 27/03/13 10:24 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: Here in Pharo headquarters we are shock that there are just 10 new bugs reported for 2.0 after the release...

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for a Seaside 3.1 Configuration for Pharo 2.0

2013-03-28 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 28, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote: I think it's not a good idea to dump the 3.0.x branch this is not what I meant. I was talking about marketing = name of the release ( I prefer to use a soft that is 3.3 and 3.0.0.0.2.alpha - even if semantic versionning is

Re: [Pharo-project] Versionner in pharo 2.0

2013-03-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Christophe is… and will probably reply. We want this tool. On Mar 28, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Is there work in progress to make Versionner work in pharo 2.0? The problems I see are at first related to the removal SystemChangeNotifier. If nobody is working

Re: [Pharo-project] Multiselect in method pane

2013-03-28 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 28, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: What is the rationale for having the method pane as multi-select list? I don't think it is of greater use when editing code. I could imagine that some refactoring tasks could be easier having multi-select lists.

Re: [Pharo-project] bump: pharo wikipedia page sucks

2013-03-28 Thread stephane ducasse
I could but I do not want people bash me if I focus on Pharo on that page. Stef On Mar 28, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, have you seen it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharo it is old, small, non-accurate and well... it could receive a lot of love

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo inbox changed

2013-03-28 Thread stephane ducasse
Ah we will have to address this. EstebanLM wrote yes, I agree with everything... we will fix it soon :) Great, I know everyone is working hard. I like the progress even if it hurts sometimes :) EstebanLM wrote Sean, you are part of Pharo team members, you should be able to upload to

[Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30017

2013-03-29 Thread stephane ducasse
30017 - 10127 New cleans for CriticsBrowser https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10127 10175 New transformation rule + some corrections https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10175 Diff information:

Re: [Pharo-project] Request write access to PharoInbox

2013-03-30 Thread stephane ducasse
Do you have an account on smalltalkhub? Normally (Smalltalkhub should provide an inbox per project so that we do not have to simulate it but nicolas is busy). So I will check and add you if you have an account on Smalltalkhub else let us know. Stef On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Nicolas Cellier

Re: [Pharo-project] Request write access to PharoInbox

2013-03-30 Thread stephane ducasse
I added you to the pharo team On Mar 29, 2013, at 1:21 AM, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 March 2013 20:41, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, can someone give me write access to PharoInbox? Me too, please. frank Nicolas Cellier

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess problem with Windows

2013-03-30 Thread stephane ducasse
is the same expression working on the machine? Hi, When I try OSProcess command: 'cd C:\Users\Jannik Laval\Desktop\Pharo2.0-one-click.app\Contents\Resources\Help\en' There is an error. Can anyone help me ? Thanks -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai

Re: [Pharo-project] I stumbled upon

2013-03-30 Thread stephane ducasse
the above fucntions would get: capitalized Return a copy with the first letter capitalized ^ self withFirstLetterTransformed: [:value | value asUppercase ]. and withFirstCharacterDownshifted withFirstCharacterLowercase? Return a copy with the first letter

Re: [Pharo-project] TxText progress and discussion

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
Hello deni this is great to see your effort on that side of the front :) One question: do you paste all these explanation in class side comments :)? I want easily understand what kind of position method means. In TxLayoutSpan I try to distinct it by charPosition and xyPosition. I dont

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Fuel Release Version 1.9

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
Thanks guys this is great. I'm really happy to see that the effort we started two years ago is paying off. Stef On Mar 28, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, We are happy to announce Fuel 1.9. Fuel is an open-source general-purpose object serialization

Re: [Pharo-project] bump: pharo wikipedia page sucks

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
, Miguel Coba, Mike Roberts, Nicolas Cellier, Niko Schwarz, Norbert Hartl, Noury Bouraqadi, Oscar Nierstrasz, Peter Hugosson Miller, Philipp Marshall, Rob Rothwell, Serge Stinckwich, Sergio Del Franco, Sheridan Mahoney, Simon Denier, Stephane Ducasse, Stephan Eggermont, Torsten Bergmann Thanks also

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] GSoC deadline passed, record number of ideas collected

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
On Mar 29, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Janko Mivšek janko.miv...@eranova.si wrote: Dear Smalltalkers, Serge and me just submitted the application for the GSoC (see its copy here: http://gsoc2013.esug.org/application), now let we wait finger crossed to the Monday 8.April when accepted organizations

Re: [Pharo-project] Request write access to PharoInbox

2013-03-31 Thread stephane ducasse
-modify-a-class-why-using-it-nicolascellier.1 2013/3/30 stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr I added you to the pharo team On Mar 29, 2013, at 1:21 AM, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 March 2013 20:41, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote

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