Sorry, I was replying to the old mailing list address. Here comes again.
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Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] Setters for instance variables
Fecha: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:41:13 -0500
De: Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas off...@riseup.net
Para:
I bought more popcorn when I read in one of the articles
http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/:
*30 years programming in* FORTRAN, C/C++/*C#*/Objective-C, Java, Python
Hi Stef, I don't have a good minimal example to hand, but my UI is just a
simple Spec model with two widgets, the aforementioned TextModel and a
TextInputFieldModel that I use to actually take user commands.
I am not wedded to Spec, if it doesn't handle colors well. If it is a
long-shot to get
Le 20/01/2015 00:08, Ben Coman a écrit :
-1 to pharo-vm. No need to dilute vm-dev.
vm-dev ?
Of course, if it already exists please don't dilute! :)
And now that you said that, I reminds me may be there was a name like
that in a recent post and I found squeak.vmdevel on gmane.
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A two-column UI similar to the Swift playground may be useful. Everything would
be printed in parallel in a separate column. (The aforementioned output may be
partially visually obscured by half a dozen means for output typically
considered irrelevant — for example, perhaps a disclosure
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Hi All.
I have decided to share with the community some tools we developed at
Debris Publishing, Inc., to simplify project start-up with regard to
database access. In particular, the tools allow you to use the Glorp
interface on Pharo (or Gemstone) writing to Fuel files on the
Excerpts from Tudor Girba's message of 2015-01-19 08:33:04 +0100:
I worked with Andrei to find a solution for improving the print-it support.
You can take a look here:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/improving-print-it-support-in-gtplayground
have not tried it yet, but i wondered about
Thanks to all of you for the advice!
On Jan 18, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Johan Fabry jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl wrote:
Hi Daniel,
I have disclaimers as the 2 previous responses, this is my feeling about the
matter. :-)
I would prefer to think purely in terms of the API that you want to use when
-1 to pharo-vm. No need to dilute vm-dev.
:)--ben
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:56 AM, Alain Rastoul alf.mmm@gmail.com
wrote:
Le 19/01/2015 13:34, Marcus Denker a écrit :
We really need a “smalltalk-talk” mailing list.
Marcus
+1
other lists could be helpful
pharo-vm :
Looks fantastic. But from can I install it? Did I overlook some detail?
thanks,,
Norbert
Am 19.01.2015 um 15:19 schrieb Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com:
Dear All,
This week end I have integrated the excellent work of Onil Goubier and
Thierry Goubier. They have worked on a
Hi Cam,
Glad to hear of your project and your plans to make it available to the
community. As to the copyright approach, see
http://choosealicense.com/licenses/mit/
http://choosealicense.com/licenses/mit/. If the code was developed by
employees of your company as part of their job, use
Forgot to mention I want to use a relative path if at all possible.
Pe 19 ian. 2015, la 00:46, Mircea S. mir...@unom.ro a scris:
Hello everyone,
I was looking into NBSQLite3 using the guide on smalltalkhub, pasted it below.
1. NBSQLite3 seems to be missing from Tools - Configuration
Hi Doru,
works nicely and makes the playground for the first time actually usable
for me. i like the way it works: the automatic commenting and that i
only need to press enter.
werner
Le 20/1/15 05:57, Alexander Svyazin a écrit :
There is a working example of text coloring in my toy MUD client
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~AlexanderSvyazin/MudTalk
http://smalltalkhub.com/#%21/%7EAlexanderSvyazin/MudTalk. It
actually has support of ANSI escape sequences (only colors yet) :)
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H Sven,
I didn't move nor rename any of them. In fact some methods have t1, t2, t3,
... but some others have real variable names.
Davide
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
Hi Davide,
That means you are looking at decompiled code, because the system can no
longer access the
Thanks for your nice words
Cheers,
Alexandre
On Jan 19, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 19 Jan 2015, at 15:19, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:
Again, thanks Onil and Thierry. This is a very valuable contribution for the
whole community!
btw, I found this post
http://forum.world.st/pharo-ide-task-force-morphic-issues-td3682765.html
2015-01-19 14:36 GMT+01:00 Mark Rizun mri...@gmail.com:
Hi everyione,
When one selects piece of code in any code editor pane, every other same
piece is highlighted with less bright color.
I'm
Hi Mircea,
- About the library:
You can either install the sqlite library close to the VM or, as mac is a
unix, in /usr/lib. I have for example mine in here:
/usr/lib/libsqlite3.dylib
The VM loads the libraries dinamically, so putting the library in one of
those locations should IIRC by default
Hi Werner,
Aha. So, you want to compare multiple runs of the same code? Do you use the
print-it for anything else?
Cheers,
Doru
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Werner Kassens wkass...@libello.com
wrote:
one thing, i guess it could eventually be preferable if the comment would
go on the
Hello!
Thanks for the change, I think it will come in handy.
2015-01-19 10:27 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu:
For me, you nailed it.
It makes Playgrounds even more useful.
I also want this in every code pane, including all browsers.
+1, if it's possible, I would like to see
On 18 Jan 2015, at 13:16, horrido horrido.hobb...@gmail.com wrote:
This is a fine line to tread. I have several problems with self-censorship:
First of all, Generalissimo is just a handle. My previous handle,
horrido, was surely objectionable as well, since it's a play on the battle
cry
On 19 Jan 2015, at 06:07, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Thanks for the feedback.
I am still looking for concrete use cases why people need to see the printout
in the editor. Could you provide an example of when you need it?
I like to construct expressions step by step,
Hi everyione,
When one selects piece of code in any code editor pane, every other same
piece is highlighted with less bright color.
I'm using spec to build a UI and would like to know which event is
responsible for this highlihts.
For example, in TextModel there is one event that probably is
Wow, wow, wow, this is really nice.
It was on my todo list to look at but I did not yet find the time, now you made
it super easy and accessible.
Is this in the latest moose 5.1 build ?
On 19 Jan 2015, at 15:19, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:
Dear All,
This week end I
On 18 Jan 2015, at 19:37, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com
wrote:
Please don’t take it as self-censorship but as strategy on communication.
It’s fine that you have a taste for history but you need to calculate the way
you make rapport (or not) with your audience and don’t
2015-01-19 14:36 GMT+01:00 Mark Rizun mri...@gmail.com:
Hi everyione,
When one selects piece of code in any code editor pane, every other same
piece is highlighted with less bright color.
I'm using spec to build a UI and would like to know which event is
responsible for this highlihts.
Ok, I see. That's not good, but thanks.
However, TextModel has selection as instance variable, so maybe I could
implement event that I need?
2015-01-19 15:13 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de:
2015-01-19 14:36 GMT+01:00 Mark Rizun mri...@gmail.com:
Hi everyione,
When one selects
And nice documentation too !
On 19 Jan 2015, at 15:19, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:
Dear All,
This week end I have integrated the excellent work of Onil Goubier and
Thierry Goubier. They have worked on a bridge between OpenStreetMap and
Roassal. As a result, you can
Hi Alex,
I strongly believe that the concrete implementation that links Roassal to
the data format should be moved to a separate package and ideally, to
another configuration.
The generic engine should be decoupled from concrete data sources.
Cheers,
Doru
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:30 PM,
We have a couple of essays published at Smalltalk renaissance
https://smalltalkrenaissance.wordpress.com/category/essays/ . *We need
more.*
This is our opportunity to answer the questions, concerns, and criticisms of
non-Smalltalk developers, an opportunity afforded by the SRP, which is
drawing
I must be old and jaded, or living like a recluse, because I don’t recall
anything special beyond an article in Medium, the link to it in ycombinator,
and a couple of posts on wordpress . Could you help me out and point me the
rest? TIA.
On Jan 19, 2015, at 16:56, horrido
It should yes
Roassal2 now depends on NeoJSON by the way.
Alexandre
On Jan 19, 2015, at 11:26 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
Is this in the latest moose 5.1 build ?
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Just tried, nope it doesn't work :)
2015-01-19 15:51 GMT+01:00 Johan Fabry jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl:
I’m not sure that this is what you need, but have you tried changing the
read selection block? ( TextModelreadSelectionBlock: aBlock ) I would
imagine that that is the block that is called when a
Yes, the print-it now is much better than the classic ST behavior! I appreciate
the latest feature of being able to get the response as commented text. I have
needed that in the past, sporadically. (But I don’t remember specific cases,
sorry.)
On Jan 19, 2015, at 08:33, Tudor Girba
I’m not sure that this is what you need, but have you tried changing the read
selection block? ( TextModelreadSelectionBlock: aBlock ) I would imagine that
that is the block that is called when a selection is changed.
On Jan 19, 2015, at 15:20, Mark Rizun mri...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, I see.
one thing, i guess it could eventually be preferable if the comment
would go on the next line so that one can repeatedly evaluate or print
that line. this is at least a common use case for me.
werner
On 01/19/2015 10:01 AM, Werner Kassens wrote:
Hi Doru,
works nicely and makes the playground
Thanks for the feedback.
I am still looking for concrete use cases why people need to see the
printout in the editor. Could you provide an example of when you need it?
Cheers,
Doru
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Werner Kassens wkass...@libello.com
wrote:
Hi Doru,
works nicely and makes
You seem to very good at knowing what other people are supposed to be doing.
We really need a “smalltalk-talk” mailing list.
Marcus
On 17 Jan 2015, at 12:56, horrido horrido.hobb...@gmail.com wrote:
Alexandre, i was born human. One day i fell in love and my heart was
broken. Not having found a fix, i remain since then a heartless bot.
2 + 3 = 3 + 2
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com
wrote:
Guys…
I am convinced that Laura is not a real person, but
This might be a robot, with all his weird handles, and strange talk, we have
had some trouble with robots trolling the lists.
Then again, he violates the first law of robotics, 'A robot may not injure a
human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm', so he
must be
2015-01-19 17:48 GMT+01:00 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
:
Maybe you can share some facts before you say things like I achieved more
in a few weeks than ESUG achieved in years. I'd be curious to see what you
are talking about and I guess I am not alone.
sure, I am curious
Hehe … good joke.
But seriously, I would like to know what I missed.
On Jan 19, 2015, at 17:33, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
What does the wife of a public relations expert do when she has insomnia?
She rolls over and says, “Tell me again, darling, just what is it that you
I think this whole discussion is about te get completely out of control.
Anyone who wants to help promote Smalltalk in the IT world is welcome -
whether he or she has been in the Community for ages or came to it just
the other day.
Richard has been doing Smalltalk for quite a few years now, so
Yes, I thought about joking. But see, having this kind of e-mails with tone
of accusation and request for proof... sounds horrible.
This is not a nice welcome for newbies.
Hernán
2015-01-19 11:34 GMT-03:00 Johan Fabry jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl:
AI has come a long way in the last few years ! :-)
Boys dont be fooled , this is Skynet. The End is Nigh!
On the subject of manners, you look like a sensible being even for an AI,
just be polite. And yes replying to messages is a way to be polite also its
not about manners, generally sharing your experience with pharo can help
benefit all of us
I had a quick look. I confirm that TextModel keeps a value holder on the
current selection interval, in the instance variable named ‘selection', but
apparently there is no API to register to notifications to that. I consider
that a missing feature, so I think it is best that you add a bug
That looks great. Thank you for your work.
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com
wrote:
Yes, I agree. This is on our todo.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On Jan 19, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Hi Alex,
I strongly believe that
On 19 Jan 2015, at 20:00, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
wrote:
Sven,
I got Richard’s message about ESUG and I asked for facts. It seems you didn't
read my full post…
I did read it, it was well written and I agree with what you said.
But you were too polite, you give
Actually I could add the book to github group for Pharo documentation so
everyone can contribute as long as he is the member of the group which
already contains the source for the new PBE and Pharo for the Enterprise
and all other books.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:41 PM, nacho 0800na...@gmail.com
Stef,
pdf and Open Document Presentation (Libre Office) are fine as formats.
Thanks,
Offray
El 12/01/15 a las 13:20, stepharo escribió:
In which format?
I will put them on a dropbox folder and send them to you. If I forget,
please reminded it to me.
Stef
Le 12/1/15 00:05, Offray Vladimir
I was reflecting on the PR efforts and the scale and nature of our
community.
There is one single thing that is our core: we are a bunch of individuals
dedicated to Pharo and we deeply like (should I say love?) it.
That very fact that we are committed to investing in understanding it and
making
Hernán wrote:
My goal is to search the contents of the Description form field in
SmalltalkHub.
I don't know if matches the design and idea of Hubcap (really nice package
BTW).
I wonder if anyone (Torsten?) tried to download all package metadata first and
perform off-line search?
What I did
I am very happy with Pharo and of course I love it.
I love Pharo because it is very good, and its very good because people have
worked hard to improve it. New libraries, new bug fixes, new tools , even
pharo is small its actually quite hard to follow its evolution because it
surprisingly active.
Great!! Great!! Kilon,
Please let me help you, at least reading the drafts or whatever I can be
usefull to.
I'm eager to learn morphic!!!
cheers
Nacho
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Nacho
Smalltalker apprentice.
Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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Le 19/01/2015 13:34, Marcus Denker a écrit :
We really need a “smalltalk-talk” mailing list.
Marcus
+1
other lists could be helpful
pharo-vm : vm, vmmaker, compiler, plugins, whatever system level
pharo-general : orientation of pharo, general open questions
I don't think a chat
Yes, I agree. This is on our todo.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On Jan 19, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Hi Alex,
I strongly believe that the concrete implementation that links Roassal to the
data format should be moved to a separate package and ideally, to another
Sven,
I got Richard’s message about ESUG and I asked for facts. It seems you didn't
read my full post…
Joachim
Von: Sven Van Caekenberghe
Gesendet: Montag, 19. Januar 2015 19:17
An: Any question about pharo is welcome
On 19 Jan 2015, at 17:48, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
2015-01-19 15:07 GMT-03:00 Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl:
Hernán wrote:
My goal is to search the contents of the Description form field in
SmalltalkHub.
I don't know if matches the design and idea of Hubcap (really nice
package BTW).
I wonder if anyone (Torsten?) tried to download all
On 19 Jan 2015, at 17:48, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote:
All that's been said so far is that some people do not like the use of some
military terms, no matter where they come from and whether people know what
these mean or not. We are not on a crusade, and this is not about conquering
There is much to respond to here. First of all, I was NOT putting down ESUG
or Smalltalk Foundation. I was simply pointing out that, despite their
promotional efforts, Smalltalk has slipped out of the public consciousness,
as evidenced by language rankings and coverage in the IT press, as well as
Torsten,
Can you tell me which packages you needed, and what you did to get this
working? I've been trying to get it working with Postgres, but I'm not married
to the database engine.
Craig
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From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf
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Hi!
It happened that variables of my methods changed to t1, t2, t3, etc etc (see
here: http://imgur.com/ptbmzMH ) and when I try to see the versions of a
method, pharo shows Improper store into indexable object (see here:
http://imgur.com/pwWT0yc ).
Can you help me, please?
Hi Davide,
That means you are looking at decompiled code, because the system can no longer
access the source code. Source code lives either in the .sources or .changes
file. Did you move or rename any of them ?
Sven
On 19 Jan 2015, at 22:22, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users
Le 19/1/15 10:01, Werner Kassens a écrit :
Hi Doru,
works nicely and makes the playground for the first time actually
usable for me. i like the way it works: the automatic commenting and
that i only need to press enter.
:)
I suggested to put it on the next line in addition :)
werner
Le 19/1/15 14:18, Marcus Denker a écrit :
On 19 Jan 2015, at 06:07, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Thanks for the feedback.
I am still looking for concrete use cases why people need to see the printout
in the editor. Could you provide an example of when you need it?
I like to
Le 19/1/15 10:15, Werner Kassens a écrit :
one thing, i guess it could eventually be preferable if the comment
would go on the next line so that one can repeatedly evaluate or print
that line. this is at least a common use case for me.
yes me too.
werner
On 01/19/2015 10:01 AM, Werner
Le 19/1/15 10:21, Tudor Girba a écrit :
Hi Werner,
Aha. So, you want to compare multiple runs of the same code?
not necessarily
Do you use the print-it for anything else?
keep trace.
Cheers,
Doru
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Werner Kassens wkass...@libello.com
RTOSM was not yet in the latest successful build of Moose 5.1
Just for the record, I got it by loading ConfigurationOfRoassal2 1.9
On 19 Jan 2015, at 15:30, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:
It should yes
Roassal2 now depends on NeoJSON by the way.
Alexandre
On Jan
Thanks for these words, Phil.
Doru
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:03 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be
wrote:
I was reflecting on the PR efforts and the scale and nature of our
community.
There is one single thing that is our core: we are a bunch of individuals
dedicated to Pharo and we
Thanks Phil for these great words.
I can tell you that sometimes we are overwhelmed by the size of our
tasks and the fact that if people would
put all the energy together we would obtain something magic and great.
Now when you want to on top of a large mountain looking at the pick does
not
One step at a time. Your videos are good! keep pushing.
We learned slowly the system too
Stef
Le 19/1/15 19:16, kilon alios a écrit :
I am very happy with Pharo and of course I love it.
I love Pharo because it is very good, and its very good because people
have worked hard to improve it.
Sven,
I got Richard’s message about ESUG and I asked for facts. It seems you didn't
read my full post…
I did read it, it was well written and I agree with what you said.
Thanks.
But you were too polite, you give him the benefit of the doubt.
No, I asked for proof. Too polite? Well, not
Great.
Doru
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com
wrote:
Yes, I agree. This is on our todo.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On Jan 19, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Hi Alex,
I strongly believe that the concrete implementation
Le 19/1/15 14:14, Marcus Denker a écrit :
On 18 Jan 2015, at 13:16, horrido horrido.hobb...@gmail.com wrote:
This is a fine line to tread. I have several problems with self-censorship:
First of all, Generalissimo is just a handle. My previous handle,
horrido, was surely objectionable as well,
Le 18/01/2015 22:25, Alexandre Bergel a écrit :
Immersion in a living system, that's one thing you definitely want to
stick with.
And the visualization is really cool
Thank you Sven
:)
Yes, this is a cool article!
Alexandre
On Jan 18, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com
Steph,
I completely agree. This type of hyperbole makes the casual observer think
that the Smalltalk community can come off as petty. We're better than this.
We should ALL have the goal of promoting Smalltalk. I know that a lot of you
have and I applaud all of you for your efforts. The more the
Hi Craig,
I've Glorp working with Pharo 4 and NBSQlite3 now without any problem.
That's why it is now also in the config browser.
As you see from the repo I restructured a bit the Glorp package
to dig deeper into it and hopefully find the time updating the port
once I have access to the VW code.
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