Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-09 Thread Pavel Krivanek
2017-11-09 23:50 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > I think this is two different problems: > > 1. pharo itself supporting different languages/keyboards, etc. > 2. pharo allowing the development of i18n applications > > I think we still need to work on point 1, but for point 2

[Pharo-users] i18n in Pharo

2017-11-09 Thread Викентий Потапов
Thanks all for a feedback! I really feel that i'm not alone :) > Vikenti did you check the Entreprise Pharo book because it contains > nice chapters from svn on cahracter encoding. Thank you, i'll take a look at this chapter. And i'll look at gettext. > Did you report it? Yes, i reported it

Re: [Pharo-users] Unable to load SmaCC on pharo6 (or pharo5)

2017-11-09 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 09/11/2017 à 21:02, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : Yes thierry :) your turn now :) That's will be harder than I expected. I have issues in the LaTeX setup used by the booklet. Thierry Stef On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Thierry Goubier wrote: Le 09/11/2017 à

Re: [Pharo-users] Why does the test runner show red when I correct a test?

2017-11-09 Thread Richard Sargent
> > I think it is correct to show green if you fix your problem in the > debugger and then proceed and it passes all assertions. But it should > equally fail if you proceed and it asserts false or craps out. > It would be a lie. The truth is only that from that point on, it is correct. You have

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-09 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I think this is two different problems: 1. pharo itself supporting different languages/keyboards, etc. 2. pharo allowing the development of i18n applications I think we still need to work on point 1, but for point 2 we already have gettext package, which is a standard we can/should use. Maybe

Re: [Pharo-users] Why does the test runner show red when I correct a test?

2017-11-09 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Thanks Denis - I'll try my simple TDD test case in Pharo 7 (I haven't tried it yet - probably time to). I think it is correct to show green if you fix your problem in the debugger and then proceed and it passes all assertions. But it should equally fail if you proceed and it asserts false or

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-09 Thread Torsten Bergmann
The Pharo 7/8 roadmap does not (yet) include I18N: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-workingRoadmaps/blob/master/Pharo7/ROADMAP.md and the Pharo core image still includes the "NaturalLanguageTranslator" solution still from Squeak. See this class for more details and all senders of

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-09 Thread Denis Kudriashov
In my experience I used my own custom implementation to support multiple languages. It was based on super simple dictionary of lang->labelName->text. I loaded it from custom xml file. My problem was that I never understood how gettext is supposed to be used on Windows. 2017-11-09 21:29 GMT+01:00

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-09 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi 2017-11-09 22:15 GMT+01:00 Stephane Ducasse : > Hi vikenti > > I would love. Now if nobody using a different alphabet does not give > us feedback and help we will not really make progress. > Denis how do you it? > I got this kind of errors in past with Pharo 1 on

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi vikenti I would love. Now if nobody using a different alphabet does not give us feedback and help we will not really make progress. Denis how do you it? Hilaire is using gettext or something like that in DrGeo. Vikenti did you check the Entreprise Pharo book because it contains nice chapters

[Pharo-users] FileReference basename of current dir

2017-11-09 Thread Norbert Hartl
is there a good explanation why ‚foo‘ asFileReference parent basename gives ‚/‘ ?

Re: [Pharo-users] Soup bug(fix)

2017-11-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Indeed the interaction with the inspector is great. Now could you still improve soup? What is your smalltalkhub account? Stef On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Siemen Baader wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:45 PM, PBKResearch > wrote: >> >>

Re: [Pharo-users] Soup bug(fix)

2017-11-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
You should try the Xpath tutorial because the code of the magic the gathering was quite ugly generated html and I could find my way. Stef On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:00 AM, Kjell Godo wrote: > i like to collect some newspaper comics from an online newspaper > but it

[Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-09 Thread Викентий Потапов
Will Pharo 7 be ready for i18n of applications? I mean some simple and useful way like in Cincom Visual Works, where translation dictionaries are separated from code and could be dinamycally changed without changing my application. It is very important for huge commercial applications,

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher directories

2017-11-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks Christophe!!! On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Christophe Demarey wrote: > thanks > >> Le 9 nov. 2017 à 20:10, stephan a écrit : >> >> On 09-11-17 11:49, Christophe Demarey wrote: >>> Stephan, could you open an issue for that on GH? >> >>

Re: [Pharo-users] Unable to load SmaCC on pharo6 (or pharo5)

2017-11-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thierry andrew would like to write a new chapter. Now as soon as you fix the current version I will publish it on the books.pharo.org stef On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Yes thierry :) your turn now :) > > Stef > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:41

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher directories

2017-11-09 Thread Christophe Demarey
thanks > Le 9 nov. 2017 à 20:10, stephan a écrit : > > On 09-11-17 11:49, Christophe Demarey wrote: >> Stephan, could you open an issue for that on GH? > > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/issues/51 > > Stephan > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Unable to load SmaCC on pharo6 (or pharo5)

2017-11-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Yes thierry :) your turn now :) Stef On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Le 09/11/2017 à 20:15, Federico.Balaguer a écrit : >> >> I am following this tutorial >> >> >> http://files.pharo.org/books-pdfs/booklet-Smacc/2017-05-05-Smacc-Spiral.pdf >>

Re: [Pharo-users] Why does the test runner show red when I correct a test?

2017-11-09 Thread Denis Kudriashov
In Pharo 7 it works. 2017-11-09 18:29 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon : > Thanks for looking at this - there is an issue however - when you apply > that change (at least in a Pharo 6.1 image) - it shows green even when a > test fails? So I think its turned one problem into the opposite

Re: [Pharo-users] Unable to load SmaCC on pharo6 (or pharo5)

2017-11-09 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 09/11/2017 à 20:15, Federico.Balaguer a écrit : I am following this tutorial http://files.pharo.org/books-pdfs/booklet-Smacc/2017-05-05-Smacc-Spiral.pdf I typed the first example and when I try to compile either LR(1) or LALR(1) there is a pop-up saying that both clases where not specified.

Re: [Pharo-users] Unable to load SmaCC on pharo6 (or pharo5)

2017-11-09 Thread Federico.Balaguer
I am following this tutorial http://files.pharo.org/books-pdfs/booklet-Smacc/2017-05-05-Smacc-Spiral.pdf I typed the first example and when I try to compile either LR(1) or LALR(1) there is a pop-up saying that both clases where not specified. I also tried adding the classes for the scanner and

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher directories

2017-11-09 Thread stephan
On 09-11-17 11:49, Christophe Demarey wrote: Stephan, could you open an issue for that on GH? https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-launcher/issues/51 Stephan

[Pharo-users] Unable to load SmaCC on pharo6 (or pharo5)

2017-11-09 Thread Federico.Balaguer
I would like to check if I need to use SmaCC for a project. I tried to install it on Pharo 6.1 32bits with iceberg but I was not able to do it. Then I tried to get SmaCC on an Pharo5 and Pharo6 images with "Catalog Browser" but I was not able to do it neither. The tool did pop up a message

Re: [Pharo-users] Why does the test runner show red when I correct a test?

2017-11-09 Thread Richard Sargent
I saw this earlier and thought it was wrong to make that change. You cannot assign a colour to the test if it does not run all the way through without interruption. You cannot know whether it truly succeeded or not until you finally run it all the way through without error or interruption. Leave

Re: [Pharo-users] Why does the test runner show red when I correct a test?

2017-11-09 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Thanks for looking at this - there is an issue however - when you apply that change (at least in a Pharo 6.1 image) - it shows green even when a test fails? So I think its turned one problem into the opposite one. Unfortunately I haven’t got a chance to look a bit deeper to help - but it might

Re: [Pharo-users] LiteratureResearcher - where graphs, PDFs, and BibTex happily live together

2017-11-09 Thread Manuel Leuenberger
Hi everyone, The estimation of packaging everything over the weekend was overly optimistic. There were just too many issues with portability and dependencies, leading to a long chain of installation requirements. Nevertheless, I decided to publish what I have so far, maybe some of you have

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing "powerpoint" like presentations in Pharo?

2017-11-09 Thread Andrew Glynn
People mistake my notion of a platform having a stable core so that it can be built on, with never changing that core one bit. A stable, evolving core is precisely what allows rapid and flexible new product improvement. Wasn’t that the whole point of deprecation rather than replacement? It

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing "powerpoint" like presentations in Pharo?

2017-11-09 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 9 Nov 2017, at 14:22, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas > wrote: > > Sophie looked very promising... Unfortunately it was not open source and died > before porting it to Java (following the Illuminati conspiracy of porting > Smalltalk break througts to "inferior"

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing "powerpoint" like presentations in Pharo?

2017-11-09 Thread Andrew Glynn
Search and ye shall receive! … Or find, or whatever … Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfFFI'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfFFI) project latestVersion) load. Gofer new squeaksource: 'SophieGoldDig'; package:

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing "powerpoint" like presentations in Pharo?

2017-11-09 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
As said, Illuminati everywhere... :-D On 09/11/17 08:26, Andrew Glynn wrote: > > Lol, you can joke from where you are, my father-in-law firmly believes > I’m a member of the “Illuminati” due to having gone to Jesuit > seminaries until the end of secondary school. > >   > > Then again, it makes

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing "powerpoint" like presentations in Pharo?

2017-11-09 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Sophie looked very promising... Unfortunately it was not open source and died before porting it to Java (following the Illuminati conspiracy of porting Smalltalk break througts to "inferior" technology, as happens once and again :-P). Offray On 09/11/17 02:40, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Everytime I

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher directories

2017-11-09 Thread Christophe Demarey
> Le 9 nov. 2017 à 10:18, Guillermo Polito a écrit : > > - launching Pharo from the pharo launcher (taken from this thread) > Apparently the pharo launcher is launching the image from a > directory internal to the launcher. In the Pharo launcher, I

[Pharo-users] Why does the test runner show red when I correct a test?

2017-11-09 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hi - I really like the build in test runner in the Pharo browsers, and I was preparing a talk to show how great TDD is in Pharo and how we aren’t ashamed of our debugger when testing (it augments the experience in fact - letting you poke around and get your thoughts straight). However - if I

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher directories

2017-11-09 Thread stephan
On 09-11-17 10:18, Guillermo Polito wrote: An analysis of the situation so people out of context can understand better the forces in play here :) Thanks Guille, that clears up a number of my misunderstandings Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher directories

2017-11-09 Thread Guillermo Polito
An analysis of the situation so people out of context can understand better the forces in play here :) - *Working directory and files constant property:* files defined using a *relative path* are created relative to the working directory. In other words: File named:

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher directories

2017-11-09 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hi Stefan, > Le 8 nov. 2017 à 15:56, stephan a écrit : > > I run into all kinds of issues with the directory structure used by the new > PharoLauncher. pharo-local seems to be shared now for multiple images. I never saw this issue. PharoLauncher does not have influence on