[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re:[PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-17 Thread Zeev Suraski
I think we should be realistic about what we can and cannot pull. Using this approach as the standard release process is simply not going to work - we barely manage an RC branch and a dev branch properly, and having to maintain an old release branch sync'd with bug fixes is not going to be wi

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re:[PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-15 Thread Stig S. Bakken
Andi Gutmans wrote: > > At 01:36 AM 11/14/2001 +0100, Stig S. Bakken wrote: > > > I didn't quite understand what you mean :) > > > All I said was that if you create a branch say "4.1.0" and you want to > > > release "4.1.x" from that branch later on whilst HEAD has already moved a > > > couple of

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re:[PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-13 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 01:36 AM 11/14/2001 +0100, Stig S. Bakken wrote: > > I didn't quite understand what you mean :) > > All I said was that if you create a branch say "4.1.0" and you want to > > release "4.1.x" from that branch later on whilst HEAD has already moved a > > couple of months you're going to have a ha

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re:[PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-13 Thread Stig S. Bakken
Andi Gutmans wrote: > > At 12:31 AM 11/11/2001 +0100, Stig S. Bakken wrote: > >Andi Gutmans wrote: > > > > > > Jani, > > > > > > I think in theory what you writes makes sense but it just doesn't work in > > > the PHP project. (I'm talking about the minor versions coming out of > > > branches). Th

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-12 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 05:28 12/11/2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: >Zeev suggested at some point >that we should drop the last number altogether. I *what*? Perhaps I was high on that Kossu :) I was never in favour of dropping the 3rd digit. > That indeed would >make the current way of doing things more correct but

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-11 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 05:28 AM 11/12/2001 +0200, Jani Taskinen wrote: >On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Andi Gutmans wrote: > > >I didn't quite understand what you mean :) > >I didn't get it first either. :) > > >All I said was that if you create a branch say "4.1.0" and you want to > >release "4.1.x" from that branch later on

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
Guys, I mentioned this in the conference. Version numbers aren't going to change anything significant. If we're concerned about the users' perception of what the version number means, moving to Jani's versioning scheme, I'm pretty confident it'll mean less to more people. The reason being t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 12:31 AM 11/11/2001 +0100, Stig S. Bakken wrote: >Andi Gutmans wrote: > > > > Jani, > > > > I think in theory what you writes makes sense but it just doesn't work in > > the PHP project. (I'm talking about the minor versions coming out of > > branches). There are always cries to go with HEAD be

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Stig S. Bakken
Jani Taskinen wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > >Guys, > > > >We have a bit of a dilemma here. As you all know, the 4.0.7 branch, on > >which 4.1.0 is currently scheduled to be based on, has branched away a few > >months ago. Some people have expressed concern that releas

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Stig S. Bakken
Andi Gutmans wrote: > > Jani, > > I think in theory what you writes makes sense but it just doesn't work in > the PHP project. (I'm talking about the minor versions coming out of > branches). There are always cries to go with HEAD because it's got new > goodies (I think it often makes sense) and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Jani Taskinen
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Mike Rogers
n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 4:34 PM Subject: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.1.0) > On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > >Guys, > > > >We h

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Andi Gutmans
Jani, I think in theory what you writes makes sense but it just doesn't work in the PHP project. (I'm talking about the minor versions coming out of branches). There are always cries to go with HEAD because it's got new goodies (I think it often makes sense) and then people don't want to rele

[PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: >Guys, > >We have a bit of a dilemma here. As you all know, the 4.0.7 branch, on >which 4.1.0 is currently scheduled to be based on, has branched away a few >months ago. Some people have expressed concern that releasing 4.1.0 based >on that branch is not