[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re:[PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-17 Thread Zeev Suraski
I think we should be realistic about what we can and cannot pull. Using this approach as the standard release process is simply not going to work - we barely manage an RC branch and a dev branch properly, and having to maintain an old release branch sync'd with bug fixes is not going to be

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re:[PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-15 Thread Stig S. Bakken
Andi Gutmans wrote: At 01:36 AM 11/14/2001 +0100, Stig S. Bakken wrote: I didn't quite understand what you mean :) All I said was that if you create a branch say 4.1.0 and you want to release 4.1.x from that branch later on whilst HEAD has already moved a couple of months you're

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re:[PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-13 Thread Stig S. Bakken
Andi Gutmans wrote: At 12:31 AM 11/11/2001 +0100, Stig S. Bakken wrote: Andi Gutmans wrote: Jani, I think in theory what you writes makes sense but it just doesn't work in the PHP project. (I'm talking about the minor versions coming out of branches). There are always cries

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re:[PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-13 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 01:36 AM 11/14/2001 +0100, Stig S. Bakken wrote: I didn't quite understand what you mean :) All I said was that if you create a branch say 4.1.0 and you want to release 4.1.x from that branch later on whilst HEAD has already moved a couple of months you're going to have a hard time

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-12 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 05:28 12/11/2001, Jani Taskinen wrote: Zeev suggested at some point that we should drop the last number altogether. I *what*? Perhaps I was high on that Kossu :) I was never in favour of dropping the 3rd digit. That indeed would make the current way of doing things more correct but

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-11 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 05:28 AM 11/12/2001 +0200, Jani Taskinen wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Andi Gutmans wrote: I didn't quite understand what you mean :) I didn't get it first either. :) All I said was that if you create a branch say 4.1.0 and you want to release 4.1.x from that branch later on whilst HEAD

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Stig S. Bakken
Andi Gutmans wrote: Jani, I think in theory what you writes makes sense but it just doesn't work in the PHP project. (I'm talking about the minor versions coming out of branches). There are always cries to go with HEAD because it's got new goodies (I think it often makes sense) and then

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Stig S. Bakken
Jani Taskinen wrote: On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: Guys, We have a bit of a dilemma here. As you all know, the 4.0.7 branch, on which 4.1.0 is currently scheduled to be based on, has branched away a few months ago. Some people have expressed concern that releasing 4.1.0

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 12:31 AM 11/11/2001 +0100, Stig S. Bakken wrote: Andi Gutmans wrote: Jani, I think in theory what you writes makes sense but it just doesn't work in the PHP project. (I'm talking about the minor versions coming out of branches). There are always cries to go with HEAD because it's

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV]4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Zeev Suraski
Guys, I mentioned this in the conference. Version numbers aren't going to change anything significant. If we're concerned about the users' perception of what the version number means, moving to Jani's versioning scheme, I'm pretty confident it'll mean less to more people. The reason being

[PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: Guys, We have a bit of a dilemma here. As you all know, the 4.0.7 branch, on which 4.1.0 is currently scheduled to be based on, has branched away a few months ago. Some people have expressed concern that releasing 4.1.0 based on that branch is not a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Andi Gutmans
Jani, I think in theory what you writes makes sense but it just doesn't work in the PHP project. (I'm talking about the minor versions coming out of branches). There are always cries to go with HEAD because it's got new goodies (I think it often makes sense) and then people don't want to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.1.0)

2001-11-10 Thread Mike Rogers
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 4:34 PM Subject: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for release process (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] 4.1.0) On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote: Guys, We have a bit of a dilemma here. As you all know, the 4.0.7 branch, on which 4.1.0