[PHP] Re: [PHP-DB] int(1) and int(11)

2008-08-24 Thread Chris
Shelley wrote: Hi all, Is there any difference between int(1) and int(11) when creating a table? I checked the mysql manual and got that 1 and 11 are used to specify the display width of an column. Is there any other difference? Straight from the manual: The display width does not

[PHP] Re: php not reading file properly

2008-08-20 Thread Lupus Michaelis
sean greenslade a écrit : $fh = fopen($myFile, 'r'); Here, they are some return code to ckeck. but not when I access it thru the web. when I browse to it, it just displays the static text (This weeks apache log (clears every sunday morning):), not the log text. Who owned

Re: [PHP] RE: php-general Digest 19 Aug 2008 20:38:46 -0000 Issue 5633

2008-08-20 Thread Philip Thompson
On Aug 19, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Cox, Chris wrote: Does anyone know why the unsubscribe email address is bouncing. Are there any other ways to unsubscribe? In case you haven't figured it out and you know how to read. To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General

Re: [PHP] RE: php-general Digest 19 Aug 2008 20:38:46 -0000 Issue 5633

2008-08-20 Thread Ashley Sheridan
Are you definately using the correct unsubscribe email? This is the one given in the message headers: list-unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk ---BeginMessage--- On Aug 19, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Cox, Chris wrote: Does anyone know why the unsubscribe email address is

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-19 Thread Pavel
I use Zend Studio (shareware, but i couldn't find better things). There are some plugins for Eclipse,but if you used Zend before, you will be cunfused by that plugins... P.S. Sorry for my English... -- === С уважением, Манылов Павел aka [R-k] icq: 949-388-0 mailto:[EMAIL

[PHP] RE: php-general Digest 19 Aug 2008 20:38:46 -0000 Issue 5633

2008-08-19 Thread Cox, Chris
Does anyone know why the unsubscribe email address is bouncing. Are there any other ways to unsubscribe? Chris Cox 415.681.3665 (direct/fax) Candidate Generation Recruiter http://www.intuit.com/careers View Sailen Saha's profile on LinkedIn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-18 Thread Carlos Medina
It flance schrieb: Hi, What do you think is the best php editor for linux. I'm using the Debian distribution. Thanks Hi it´s allways the same: What for Editor are you using? and blah. Please this dicussion is old and not funny anymore (i think ). The Developer which vi or nano on

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-18 Thread Ashley Sheridan
To be honest, I've always favoured KATE. It's just a plain old text editor with syntax highlighting for most languages. There are plugins for Eclipse which let you edit PHP code, so yu could start looking in that direction. Oh, and it should never really matter what distro you use. You can

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-18 Thread Aschwin Wesselius
Carlos Medina wrote: It flance schrieb: Hi, What do you think is the best php editor for linux. I'm using the Debian distribution. Thanks Hi it´s allways the same: What for Editor are you using? and blah. Please this dicussion is old and not funny anymore (i think ). The Developer

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-16 Thread Richard Heyes
pico :-) ed baby; its all about ed! hexedit /dev/sda1 I do seriously use pico. My editing needs on Linux are small, via a puTTY window and pico is the most like a Windows editor that I've used (compared to vi say with its command/edit modes). I've used it for years, am very

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-16 Thread Brice
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It flance wrote: Hi, What do you think is the best php editor for linux. I'm using the Debian distribution. Thanks I use Aptana which is based on eclipse and has built-in HTML/JS/PHP?SVN stuff. Also a cool

[PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-15 Thread Shawn McKenzie
It flance wrote: Hi, What do you think is the best php editor for linux. I'm using the Debian distribution. Thanks I use Aptana which is based on eclipse and has built-in HTML/JS/PHP?SVN stuff. Also a cool plugin that lets you easily develop for the iPhone and preview it.

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-15 Thread Richard Heyes
What do you think is the best php editor for linux. pico :-) -- Richard Heyes http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-15 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think is the best php editor for linux. pico :-) ed baby; its all about ed! -nathan

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 10:43 -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think is the best php editor for linux. pico :-) ed baby; its all about ed! hexedit /dev/sda1 ;) Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-15 Thread Davi Vidal
Em Friday 15 August 2008, Robert Cummings escreveu: On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 10:43 -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think is the best php editor for linux. pico :-) ed baby; its all about ed! hexedit

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 14:06 -0300, Davi Vidal wrote: Em Friday 15 August 2008, Robert Cummings escreveu: On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 10:43 -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Richard Heyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think is the best php editor for linux.

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-15 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
-Original Message- From: Davi Vidal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 12:07 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux Em Friday 15 August 2008, Robert Cummings escreveu: On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 10:43 -0600, Nathan

[PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-14 Thread Colin Guthrie
Eric Butera wrote: Eclipse with PDT. http://www.zend.com/en/community/pdt#all As much as I hate +1 emails, this is a good options... Good subversion integration too if that floats your boat. Col -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP editor for linux

2008-08-14 Thread Eric Butera
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Colin Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As much as I hate +1 emails, this is a good options... Good subversion integration too if that floats your boat. Col +1 for subclipse! ;D -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

[PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Tom
Problem solved (at one machine)! I can upload a ~ 2 GB File now on a machine with 1 GB Main Memory! No Problem, swap is used but no break now. The answer is, i think, the dramatical overhead for http upload, simply my post_max_size and upload_max_size are to small. If i will upload 1 GB it

Re: [PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote: Im very glad to fix this problem, but the next one is here: Other machine (but 2 GB Ram), same suse version, same (working now) php.ini with limits to 5000M now and i can't upload a File greater than 900MB. A file under 900MB i see the tmp file growing. A File with +1 GB no temp

Re: [PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Peter Ford
Per Jessen wrote: Tom wrote: Im very glad to fix this problem, but the next one is here: Other machine (but 2 GB Ram), same suse version, same (working now) php.ini with limits to 5000M now and i can't upload a File greater than 900MB. A file under 900MB i see the tmp file growing. A File

Re: [PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Luke
You could always program in something (perhaps in Ajax) to monitor the progress of the file upload and check for errors periodically. Luke Slater On 8 Aug 2008, at 11:55, Peter Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Per Jessen wrote: Tom wrote: Im very glad to fix this problem, but the next one is

Re: [PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Tom
What is set this limit? Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom wrote: Im very glad to fix this problem, but the next one is here: Other machine (but 2 GB Ram), same suse version, same (working now) php.ini with limits to 5000M now and i can't upload a

Re: [PHP] Re: php File upload

2008-08-08 Thread Per Jessen
Tom wrote: Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom wrote: Im very glad to fix this problem, but the next one is here: Other machine (but 2 GB Ram), same suse version, same (working now) php.ini with limits to 5000M now and i can't upload a File

[PHP] Re: PHP Brain Teasers

2008-08-06 Thread tedd
At 12:51 PM -0400 8/5/08, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 1:44 PM, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to use some really common phrases that all of us around the world should recognize, but feel free to get really elaborate with the code. function

[PHP] Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.3.0alpha1

2008-08-05 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 09:31, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! Johannes has packed PHP 5.3.0alpha1 yesterday evening, which you can find here: http://downloads.php.net/johannes/ So.. Apparently we will not get Windows builds of alpha1 as some of the new extensions didn't

[PHP] Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.3.0alpha1

2008-08-05 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Hannes Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 09:31, Lukas Kahwe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! Johannes has packed PHP 5.3.0alpha1 yesterday evening, which you can find here: http://downloads.php.net/johannes/ So.. Apparently we

[PHP] Re: PHP Brain Teasers

2008-08-05 Thread Daniel Brown
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 1:44 PM, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to use some really common phrases that all of us around the world should recognize, but feel free to get really elaborate with the code. ?php function youBetter($func) { return Schedule cleared.; } if(!date(s))

[PHP] Re: Php Help

2008-07-30 Thread Shawn McKenzie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot get Php to run on Solaris 10... Here is the error I am getting Trying to run php outside of apache ld.so.1: php: fatal: libldap-2.3.so.0: open failed: No such file or directory With

[PHP] Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.4.9RC1

2008-07-25 Thread Xuefer
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I packed PHP 4.4.1RC9 today, which you can find here: http://downloads.php.net/derick/ 4.4.9RC1? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP] Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.4.9RC1

2008-07-25 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Xuefer wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I packed PHP 4.4.1RC9 today, which you can find here: http://downloads.php.net/derick/ 4.4.9RC1? Uhm yes. regards, Derick -- HEAD before 5_3!: http://tinyurl.com/6d2esb

[PHP] Re: [PHP-INSTALL] Executing a python script from within perl

2008-07-22 Thread Daniel Brown
Forwarded to the appropriate list (PHP General). Anuj: If you're not already subscribed, please visit http://php.net/mailinglists and subscribe to the PHP General list, or send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Anuj Bhatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,

[PHP] Re: [PHP-INSTALL] Executing a python script from within perl

2008-07-22 Thread Daniel Brown
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Daniel Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all else fails, and you're aware of the side-effects, go fork() yourself. ;-P For posterity: http://php.net/pcntl [See: pcntl_fork(), et al.] -- /Daniel P. Brown Better prices on dedicated servers:

[PHP] Re: [PHP-INSTALL] Executing a python script from within perl

2008-07-22 Thread Anuj Bhatt
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 23:27 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: Try this to see if your script is outputting any errors: ?php exec('/path/to/python your-script.py 21',$ret); print_r($ret); ? This worked, was opening a file for which permission was denied. Python didn't show me anything,

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP documentation parsing?

2008-07-19 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Christian A. Reiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sorry for spamming, but i got a error reply from sending this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't worry, you're not spamming, you were following up. The gods have forgiven you, so you're good to go! ;-P [EMAIL

[PHP] Re: PHP documentation parsing?

2008-07-18 Thread M. Sokolewicz
Christian A. Reiter wrote: As you maybe know, the program kdevelop under Linux has a built in documentation browser which uses the online php documentation which was on the homepage of the Minnesota university. Since this homepage isn't available any more the documentation is broken. I tried

[PHP] Re: PHP documentation parsing?

2008-07-18 Thread Christian A. Reiter
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2008 13:03:43 schrieb M. Sokolewicz: This is more of a question for the PHP Documentation Mailinglist than for php-general, so I'm cc'ing it there. Could you perhaps put up such a toc file somewhere online, so we could take a look at what it actually looks like, for those

[PHP] Re: [PHP-DOC] Network Interface Card Name

2008-07-07 Thread Thiago H. Pojda
Forwarding to correct list. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Kapil Kapil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I want the name of network interface cards of server, not of client. Thanks regards Kapil On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Thiago H. Pojda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's client-side

Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-DOC] Network Interface Card Name

2008-07-07 Thread Per Jessen
Thiago H. Pojda wrote: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Kapil Kapil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! I want to get the name of network interface card, like - VIA Rhine I Fast Ethernet Adapter. Is there any function in php for this or perhaps a way to find it out? Not really a PHP question,

Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-DOC] Network Interface Card Name

2008-07-07 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Per Jessen wrote: Thiago H. Pojda wrote: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Kapil Kapil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! I want to get the name of network interface card, like - VIA Rhine I Fast Ethernet Adapter. Is there any function in php for this or perhaps a way to find it out? Not really

Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-DOC] Network Interface Card Name

2008-07-07 Thread Thiago H. Pojda
at 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-DOC] Network Interface Card Name To: php-general@lists.php.net Per Jessen wrote: Thiago H. Pojda wrote: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Kapil Kapil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! I want to get the name of network interface card, like - VIA Rhine

[PHP] Re: [PHP-DB] php upload questions --move_uploaded_file

2008-06-26 Thread Daniel Brown
Hai, I'm forwarding this email over to the PHP-General list, since it's not database-related. If you're not already subscribed there, please subscribe and I'm sure you'll get some responses. ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Liu, Hai Tao (Taylor) [EMAIL

[PHP] Re: PHP and Apache

2008-06-23 Thread Jon Drukman
R B wrote: Hello, I´m developing a PHP system that needs one of these lines in the .htaccess, depending of the server configuration: AddHandler application/x-httpd-php .xyz or AddHandler application/x-httpd-php4 .xyz or AddHandler application/x-httpd-php5 .xyz How can i detect on the fly

[PHP] Re: PHP compile

2008-06-09 Thread zerof
Hélio Rocha escreveu: Hi there, How can i compile or encrypt a PHP project without changing any thing on the server? [Fast-]CGI it's a possibility. Thanks in advance. Hélio http://www.roadsend.com/home/index.php -- zerof http://www.educar.pro.br/ Apache - PHP - MySQL - Boolean Logics -

[PHP] Re: PHP Extensions as Shared Objects?

2008-06-02 Thread Colin Guthrie
mike wrote: On 5/29/08, Weston C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately, I'll have full control of the hosting environment in the context this matters. :) dl is definitely interesting, but I'm worried that runtime invocation might mean performance hits. Is there a way to do load/startup time

[PHP] Re: PHP eg.

2008-05-31 Thread zerof
mukesh yadav escreveu: Hi, I'm trying to learn a PHP by myself...and i need a help. I have learned all the basic but i dont know how to implement the stuff. Can you please guys help me out give me a small site in PHP so that i can study and learn. thank you. Maybe, this site can help you to

[PHP] Re: PHP authenticating user over SSL

2008-05-23 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 05/23/2008 05:06 PM Gunnar Vestergaard said the following: Where do I post feature requests for PHP? I need some functions in PHP to let a user log on to a server with his SSL client certificate. I mean, when a user has his own SSL client certificate, then a server should be able

[PHP] Re: [PHP-DB] Re: [PHP] Best practices for using MySQL index

2008-05-10 Thread Gergely Hodicska
Hi! While this is not a MySQL mailing list, I try to give you some hints and keep it short. There is maybe one important thing which should considered: clustered index. If use InnoDB you can think about to not using a surrogate key but a natural one which best support the query which you

[PHP] Re: PHP-MYSQL Error: Can't connect to MySQL socket. Can someone helpme out please?

2008-05-10 Thread Rahul
By the way it installed MySQL 6 and PHP 5.0.4 and from the console this command does not work: mysql -u root -p but only this works: mysql -h hostname -u root -p I tried doing the same while connecting to the database via php but it does not work. Rahul wrote: I am using Fedora Core 4. As

[PHP] Re: PHP/SOAP WDSL Restrictions

2008-05-09 Thread Paul van Brouwershaven
I'm struggling with the WDSL restrictions in PHP/SOAP for a while Sorry, I mean WSDL instead of WDSL. But of course the problem stays the same :-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP] Re: [PHP-WIN] Include Question!

2008-05-09 Thread Stut
Please include the list when replying, unless you're willing to pay my standard hourly rate. On 9 May 2008, at 20:49, Matthew Gonzales wrote: Thanks for the responses. I think that I need to clarify. I am looking to use an include to minimize the amount of code on the page. So I wanted

[PHP] Re: PHP Web Apps OpenID

2008-05-07 Thread Colin Guthrie
Joe Harman wrote: I am curious here if any of you are considering or already using OpenID or Windows CardSpace? Does anyone see this being a big deal??? from a users stand point it seems like a big hassle to get started with it and I'm not sure if it would scare people away or not? any thoughts

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Web Apps OpenID

2008-05-07 Thread Joe Harman
Yeah, after reading some about it yesterday and using it on some sites, I like that it sort of simplifies some things for the end user... it really fits sites like social networking stuff well.. I am considering using this for our ecommerce site, it only becomes useful though for repeat visitors

[PHP] Re: php 5 and mysql failure

2008-04-30 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Yehudi Alexis Garrett wrote: I'm using a php script which performs three xml queries to other three servers to retrieve a set of ids and after I do a query to mysql of the kind SELECT * FROM table WHERE id IN ('set of ids'); Although I'm sure the connection to the database is ok, I sometimes

[PHP] Re: PHP Errors to screen

2008-04-29 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Adam Gerson wrote: Where do I change the setting to print PHP errors to the screen when running in a web browser? Thanks, Adam php.ini, display_errors -shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP] Re: PHP Errors to screen

2008-04-29 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Adam Gerson wrote: Where do I change the setting to print PHP errors to the screen when running in a web browser? Thanks, Adam Or in your script use ini_set() -shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Errors to screen

2008-04-29 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Gerson wrote: Where do I change the setting to print PHP errors to the screen when running in a web browser? Thanks, Adam php.ini, display_errors you should also take a look at log_errors and error_log as

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-25 Thread Nick Stinemates
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:46:14PM +0200, Aschwin Wesselius wrote: Lester Caine wrote: 'If it isn't broken don't fix it' causes a problem when YOU know that the step change will make future development easier, but the customers keep asking - 'Can you just add XXX' :( So they actually

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-24 Thread Sancar Saran
On Wednesday 23 April 2008 21:29:40 tedd wrote: At 5:24 PM +0300 4/22/08, Sancar Saran wrote: Hello there, Is anyone looking jQuery recently ?. Thas what I call framework... Yes, and I'm programming with it. But, that's what jQuery and I call a library. Cheers, Name it whatever you

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-24 Thread Eric Butera
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Sancar Saran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works. It needs to read tons of docs before writing someting useful and it was [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ to writing programs with zend framework. It has tons of real unit tests to know it really works. Plus there are a lot of

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-24 Thread Sancar Saran
On Thursday 24 April 2008 14:52:12 Eric Butera wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Sancar Saran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It works. It needs to read tons of docs before writing someting useful and it was [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ to writing programs with zend framework. It has tons of real

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-24 Thread Eric Butera
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Sancar Saran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, with your answer my mind flashes I wish I shared your passion on things! I started out with functional programming using various languages. PHP was the first time I attempted writing classes. The reason I wanted

RE: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-24 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] ...laugh... [/snip] I did a quick and dirty of just one of those functions. This function takes a table and creates a form based on the table. It needs quite a bit of refining, but I am willing to share and let you guys and gals throw suggestions; function formCreate($database, $table,

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:11 +0800, paragasu wrote: I'm guessing, since you quoted os-commerce and phpBB, you don't know shit code when you see it. Just because it's popular doesn't mean the code is good. Have you ever tried to modify either of these? What a mess. honestly, i don't and not

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 10:07 -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:54 AM, paragasu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can only think of copy paste method if i were required to write a PHP application without a single line of code even a simple hello world! application. i am

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 01:02 +0800, paragasu wrote: imagine a cms, like drupal or joomla. you install the thing w/ the web based installer then go through adding content via the web interface; u can do it :D -nathan i am going to miss the fun doing programming then. As a

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 19:05 -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Tony Marston wrote: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] You haven't answered the question. Where can this piece of wizardry be downloaded so that it can be reviewed by your peers?

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Lester Caine
Tony Marston wrote: Audit logging - http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql/auditlog.html Workflow - http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql/workflow.html Yuck - MySQL :( A decent database has it's own logging stuff built in ;) And a decent database library does not care which database you use :) I

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Aschwin Wesselius
Lester Caine wrote: 'If it isn't broken don't fix it' causes a problem when YOU know that the step change will make future development easier, but the customers keep asking - 'Can you just add XXX' :( So they actually ask for a porn site? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 13:46 +0200, Aschwin Wesselius wrote: Lester Caine wrote: 'If it isn't broken don't fix it' causes a problem when YOU know that the step change will make future development easier, but the customers keep asking - 'Can you just add XXX' :( So they actually ask

RE: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Let me know when as I could do with a good laugh. [/snip] Fair enough, you have already given me several! :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread David Giragosian
At the risk of extending this already looong thread... Ah, screw it. I actually read all of the Radicore documentation on Monday following someone's suggestion last week about module access control. That was before this thread got started, BTW. Now I'm not a Framework guy at all, and I don't

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread tedd
At 3:35 PM +0100 4/22/08, Stut wrote: Tony Marston wrote: No I'm not. Shocking and unexpected opinion from the developer of a framework. NOT! Anyway, I can see this falling into another lengthy discussion so I'll get my contribution in early to avoid disappointment. As others have

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread tedd
At 5:24 PM +0300 4/22/08, Sancar Saran wrote: Hello there, Is anyone looking jQuery recently ?. Thas what I call framework... Yes, and I'm programming with it. But, that's what jQuery and I call a library. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:29 PM, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5:24 PM +0300 4/22/08, Sancar Saran wrote: Hello there, Is anyone looking jQuery recently ?. Thas what I call framework... Yes, and I'm programming with it. But, that's what jQuery and I call a library. interestingly,

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Nathan Nobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: interestingly, prototype claims it is a framework. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=define%3A+frameworkbtnG=Google+Search Lots of differing opinions. :) Seeing as script.aculo.us and all that stuff is written on

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Eric Butera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Nathan Nobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: interestingly, prototype claims it is a framework. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=define%3A+frameworkbtnG=Google+Search Lots of differing

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 13:14 -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Eric Butera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Nathan Nobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: interestingly, prototype claims it is a framework.

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 13:14 -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Eric Butera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Nathan Nobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 19:05 -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Tony Marston wrote: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] You haven't answered the question. Where can this piece of wizardry be downloaded so that it can be reviewed by

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 16:50 -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 19:05 -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Tony Marston wrote: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] You haven't answered the question. Where can

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 16:50 -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 19:05 -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Tony Marston wrote: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip]

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 20:32 -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 16:50 -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 19:05 -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Tony Marston wrote: Jay Blanchard

[PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread Tony Marston
If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to writing a proper application. For example, I have just completed an ERP application which contains 130 database tables, 230 relationships and 1000

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread Kinch Zhang
On 4/22/08, Tony Marston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to writing a proper application. I agree , you couldn't avoid using a framework unless you're writing a

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread Eric Butera
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Tony Marston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to writing a proper application. For example, I have just completed an ERP

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread Jason Norwood-Young
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 21:06 +0800, Kinch Zhang wrote: On 4/22/08, Tony Marston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to writing a proper application. I

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread paragasu
If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to writing a proper application. For example, I have just completed an ERP application which contains 130 database tables, 230 relationships and 1000

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread tedd
At 9:06 PM +0800 4/22/08, Kinch Zhang wrote: On 4/22/08, Tony Marston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to writing a proper application. I agree , you

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 21:25 +0800, paragasu wrote: If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to writing a proper application. For example, I have just completed an ERP application which

RE: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to writing a proper application. ..If you think you can achieve the same level of productivity WITHOUT a framework then you are living in cloud

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread Tony Marston
paragasu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to writing a proper application. For example, I have just completed an ERP application

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread Tony Marston
Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to writing a proper application. ..If you think you can achieve the same

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread paragasu
I'm guessing, since you quoted os-commerce and phpBB, you don't know shit code when you see it. Just because it's popular doesn't mean the code is good. Have you ever tried to modify either of these? What a mess. honestly, i don't and not really interested to dig inside thus code. but i guess,

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread Sancar Saran
Hello there, Is anyone looking jQuery recently ?. Thas what I call framework... You are really doing tons of things with much less code. And jQuery was javaScript thingy and in php world nothing was comperable. My toughts about php frame work was; All those frameworks claim their way was

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread paragasu
All those frameworks claim their way was perfect for making love good joke sancar. i do not see any connection between framework and making love. if making love what you looking for. Porn might be a good answer for you. And I say, I'm 34 years old, and I got enough knowladge to how to make

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread Stut
Tony Marston wrote: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to writing a proper application. ..If you think you can

Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

2008-04-22 Thread Jason Pruim
On Apr 22, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Sancar Saran wrote: Hello there, Is anyone looking jQuery recently ?. Thas what I call framework... You are really doing tons of things with much less code. And jQuery was javaScript thingy and in php world nothing was comperable. My toughts about php frame

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