[PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

PostTrack [Dan Brown] wrote: Posting Summary for PHP-General List Thanks a bundle, Dan, for publicizing everyone's email address. All the addresses are in plain text, even on the news server web interface ready for spambots to harvest. -- David Powers -- PHP General Mailing List (h

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

David Powers schreef: PostTrack [Dan Brown] wrote: Posting Summary for PHP-General List Thanks a bundle, Dan, for publicizing everyone's email address. All the addresses are in plain text, even on the news server web interface ready for spambots to harvest. that horse had bolted long b

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 19, 2008 8:39 AM, David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PostTrack [Dan Brown] wrote: > > Posting Summary for PHP-General List > > Thanks a bundle, Dan, for publicizing everyone's email address. All the > addresses are in plain text, even on the news server web interface ready > for

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

i think the script is pretty cool, dan ;) -nathan

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Sat, January 19, 2008 7:39 am, David Powers wrote: > PostTrack [Dan Brown] wrote: >> Posting Summary for PHP-General List > > Thanks a bundle, Dan, for publicizing everyone's email address. All > the > addresses are in plain text, even on the news server web interface > ready > for spambots

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Daniel Brown wrote: My pleasure, David but before you start sounding *completely* victimized and pointing the finger, you may want to think about the fact that your email address is already plain text on some of the archive sites --- including MARC. Just go to Google and type in your add

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 19, 2008 12:30 PM, David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Brown wrote: > > My pleasure, David but before you start sounding *completely* > > victimized and pointing the finger, you may want to think about the > > fact that your email address is already plain text on some of

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

$email = str_replace(array('@', '.'), array(' AT ', ' DOT ', $email); This will defeat 99.% of spambots, and still be quite usable for any legitimate purpose. On Sat, January 19, 2008 12:36 pm, David Powers wrote: > Daniel Brown wrote: >> On Jan 19, 2008 12:30 PM, David Powers wrote: > >>> Ye

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Daniel Brown wrote: On Jan 19, 2008 12:30 PM, David Powers wrote: Yes, and it's obvious how that happens. It's because people, including yourself, don't have the courtesy to set up your email or newreader program to remove the sender's address from replies. By removing the email address,

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On 19 Jan 2008, at 18:36, David Powers wrote: Point 2: My address has been exposed by the thoughtless acts of others not setting their mail program/newsreader options correctly. Apart from the ex-BBC forum (where I have since changed the settings and edited the relevant post), all Google ref

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

David Powers wrote: > I wasn't referring to that, but to the thoughtless way that you and > others automatically include the sender's email address in plain text > every time you respond to a post. Surely it's not too much to ask that > you set your mail program or newsreader so that it doesn't di

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Nathan Nobbe wrote: > On Jan 19, 2008 1:47 PM, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > regarding configuring mail clients to omit the senders address in the > reply, well, this is one of those things that you just cant expect > every user to do. Not even you? (see above) /Per Jes

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 19, 2008 1:36 PM, David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Brown wrote: > > On Jan 19, 2008 12:30 PM, David Powers wrote: > > >> Yes, and it's obvious how that happens. It's because people, including > >> yourself, don't have the courtesy to set up your email or newreader > >> progra

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 19, 2008 1:47 PM, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $email = str_replace(array('@', '.'), array(' AT ', ' DOT ', $email); > > This will defeat 99.% of spambots, and still be quite usable for > any legitimate purpose. this is a great idea; and its the same concept employed for

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 19, 2008 1:47 PM, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $email = str_replace(array('@', '.'), array(' AT ', ' DOT ', $email); > > This will defeat 99.% of spambots, and still be quite usable for > any legitimate purpose. Yes, actually, I've already incorporated something like t

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 19, 2008 2:06 PM, Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nathan Nobbe wrote: > > > On Jan 19, 2008 1:47 PM, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [snip] > > regarding configuring mail clients to omit the senders address in the > > reply, well, this is one of those things that you

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Daniel Brown wrote: Finally, I don't want you to think that I'm personally-attacking you in the same way you did to me Sorry, Dan, you just don't get it, do you? You published the name and email address of every single person who contributed to this mailing list in the past week. I didn't

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 19, 2008 5:25 PM, David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Brown wrote: > > Finally, I don't want you to think that I'm personally-attacking > > you in the same way you did to me > > Sorry, Dan, you just don't get it, do you? You published the name and > email address of every si

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Daniel Brown wrote: Notice, if you will and are able, that all other posts to this thread are responses of interest, not the ramblings of a crybaby. I have also noticed that many of the responses come from #1 Rated "Year's Coolest Guy" By Self. A little humility might be in order. I don

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

David Powers schreef: Daniel Brown wrote: Finally, I don't want you to think that I'm personally-attacking you in the same way you did to me Sorry, Dan, you just don't get it, do you? good mantra - please repeat to yourself 20 times every morning whilst you brush your teeth. actually I

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Jochem Maas wrote: if I am correct you are or were a journalist. forgive if I have mistaken you for another, but if that is correct then how often have you trodden on someone's privacy for the sake of a story? Yes, I was a journalist for some 30 years, but roughly two-thirds of that time was

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

David Powers schreef: Jochem Maas wrote: if I am correct you are or were a journalist. forgive if I have mistaken you for another, but if that is correct then how often have you trodden on someone's privacy for the sake of a story? Yes, I was a journalist for some 30 years, but roughly two-t

RE: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

> -Original Message- > From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:22 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, > 2008: php-general@lists.php.net > > Jochem Maas wr

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

David Powers wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: Notice, if you will and are able, that all other posts to this thread are responses of interest, not the ramblings of a crybaby. I have also noticed that many of the responses come from #1 Rated "Year's Coolest Guy" By Self. A little humility might

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 19, 2008 8:15 PM, Andrés Robinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2 - I don't have anything against my name and email being published in the > stats (sure, I'd like support for the "é" character on my name :)). I don't > care about spam either, we all get spam anyway, and that's why we have RB

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 19, 2008 8:55 PM, Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Powers wrote: > > Daniel Brown wrote: > >> Notice, if you will and are able, that all other posts to this > >> thread are responses of interest, not the ramblings of a crybaby. > > > > I have also noticed that many of the response

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Daniel Brown wrote: On Jan 19, 2008 8:55 PM, Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David Powers wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: Notice, if you will and are able, that all other posts to this thread are responses of interest, not the ramblings of a crybaby. I have also noticed that many of the respon

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Well, at least we know which subject will make it to the top next week -- H | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAd

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 19, 2008 9:25 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Well, at least we know which subject will make it to the top next > week nice; say, dan, here comes another feature request; can we see the top thread (or 3 :)) as well ? -nathan

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Nathan Nobbe wrote: > i didnt see the option in gmail; but if you know where it is or how to > set it up in gmail, i will happily take the 2 seconds to enable it. Sorry, I don't use gmail. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 19, 2008 9:39 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 19, 2008 9:25 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Well, at least we know which subject will make it to the top next > > week > > nice; say, dan, here comes another feature request; can we see th

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 20, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Daniel Brown wrote: On Jan 19, 2008 9:39 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 19, 2008 9:25 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, at least we know which subject will make it to the top next week nice; say, dan, here comes

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Andrés Robinet wrote: 3 - I don't like the attitude of both Dan and David. IMHO, David thinks the issue is more severe than it is, and Dan just won't recognize that mangling email addresses is kind of a (arguably also) "standard practice". No public apologize is needed, but maybe "Yeah, I just

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 10:04 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: > That would actually be pretty interesting. Since we've all been > known to beat a thread to death, it certainly wouldn't be difficult to > collect the data. FWIW, I would like to continue to see these postings, as mailing list metrics

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On 20 Jan 2008, at 17:49, David Powers wrote: Andrés Robinet wrote: 3 - I don't like the attitude of both Dan and David. IMHO, David thinks the issue is more severe than it is, and Dan just won't recognize that mangling email addresses is kind of a (arguably also) "standard practice". No pu

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Stut wrote: You seem unable to accept that you are the one that put your email address out there for anyone to collect. If you can't understand that then there is indeed no point in continuing the conversation. I do understand it. What I object to is a supposedly responsible member of this li

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On 20 Jan 2008, at 18:02, David Powers wrote: Stut wrote: You seem unable to accept that you are the one that put your email address out there for anyone to collect. If you can't understand that then there is indeed no point in continuing the conversation. I do understand it. What I object

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 18:02 +, David Powers wrote: > Stut wrote: > > You seem unable to accept that you are the one that put your email > > address out there for anyone to collect. If you can't understand that > > then there is indeed no point in continuing the conversation. > > I do unders

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008:php-general@lists.php.net

Robert Cummings wrote: I understand what you are thinking, but the fact remains your address is already public for having posted to the list. It seems you are getting bent out of shape because you aren't grasping this fact. Dan hasn't done anything wrong nor does he owe any apologies or concessio

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008:php-general@lists.php.net

have you ever googled for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? looks like it brings up some thread from around september of 07... oh wait; isnt that before dan started up the stat program .. -nathan

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008:php-general@lists.php.net

On Sunday 20 January 2008 22:06:54 Nathan Nobbe wrote: > have you ever googled for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? > looks like it brings up some thread from around > september of 07... oh wait; isnt that before dan > started up the stat program .. > > -nathan MAN don't expose it like that. Now he'll get ton

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008:php-general@lists.php.net

On Sunday 20 January 2008 19:58:03 David Powers wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > I understand what you are thinking, but the fact > > remains your address is already public for having posted to the list. It > > seems you are getting bent out of shape because you aren't grasping this > > fact. Da

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008:php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 20, 2008 4:09 PM, Børge Holen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MAN don't expose it like that. Now he'll get tons upon tons of spam :D > damn, did i, like, just publish it again :-O -nathan

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008:php-general@lists.php.net

On Sunday 20 January 2008 22:38:24 Robert Cummings wrote: > On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 16:13 -0500, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2008 4:09 PM, Børge Holen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > MAN don't expose it like that. Now he'll get tons upon tons of spam :D > > > > damn, did i, like, just publish

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008:php-general@lists.php.net

On Jan 20, 2008 4:38 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 16:13 -0500, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2008 4:09 PM, Børge Holen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > MAN don't expose it like that. Now he'll get tons upon tons of spam :D > > > > > > > damn,

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008:php-general@lists.php.net

On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 16:13 -0500, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > On Jan 20, 2008 4:09 PM, Børge Holen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > MAN don't expose it like that. Now he'll get tons upon tons of spam :D > > > > damn, did i, like, just publish it again :-O Is this going to turn into one of those thi

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January,2008:php-general@lists.php.net

Børge Holen wrote: You really don't get it yet? You distributed it, I knew your email long before Dan did squat, didn't take any programming to acomplish that. Obviously, you don't get it either. It's now common practice to remove email addresses from public forums. Instead of justifying Dan'

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

2008. 01. 19, szombat keltezéssel 11.12-kor Daniel Brown ezt írta: > Aside from that, Zoltan, if you happen to be able to find the > function to post without much problem, feel free, and I'll look into > incorporating it into the script. Otherwise, I can fix it myself. My > fault for not thi

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

On Sat, January 19, 2008 12:51 pm, Per Jessen wrote: > David Powers wrote: >> When I subscribed to the PHP general mailing list I did not give >> permission for this. This is an international list, and what you're >> doing breaks EU privacy laws, and possibly those in other countries >> too. > > Hm

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January, 2008: php-general@lists.php.net

Richard Lynch wrote: > You'll also have a VERY tough time trying to ram EU privacy laws > through a non-EU court, if Dan is not in the EU... Forcing American law on other people of the world has not been a problem for America, why should it be a problem for the EU? :-( > You *know* it's an inter

Re: [PHP] Re: Posting Summary for Week Ending 18 January,2008:php-general@lists.php.net

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:14:34 +, David Powers wrote: > A Google check on my email address shows that, with one exception, it > has been released into the public domain solely through archives and > mirrors of this list. The exception is a private group, whose > administrator I have alerted t