, then use it as a reference to see how I do things and re-write
your own ;-)
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From: Paul M Foster [mailto:pa...@quillandmouse.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:01 PM
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 09:57 +0300, Usamah M. Ali wrote:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com
wrote:
If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend
CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and
they are pretty
The question is interesting.
I do another question: Will PHP5 support PHP4 backward compatibility
forever? Ok I'm rediculous, forever not, but, until 5.3 or 6?
I really don't know how CI thinks about evolution, but I'm very
curious why don't use the new features that provide good evolution?
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 09:03 -0200, Edgar da Silva (Fly2k) wrote:
The question is interesting.
I do another question: Will PHP5 support PHP4 backward compatibility
forever? Ok I'm rediculous, forever not, but, until 5.3 or 6?
I think once PHP6 comes out we'll find that some PHP4
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote:
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 09:03 -0200, Edgar da Silva (Fly2k) wrote:
The question is interesting.
I do another question: Will PHP5 support PHP4 backward compatibility
forever? Ok I'm rediculous, forever not, but, until
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Usamah M. Ali usamah1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com
wrote:
If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend
CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and
they
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:57:42AM +0300, Usamah M. Ali wrote:
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com
wrote:
If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend
CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and
they are
WRT Frameworks..
before I rant, I should declare myself as an ex-consultant to Zend.
I have used most of the more popular frameworks, and in my current employment
am using Zend Framework.
All of the frameworks I have used, have had some good features, and some
poorly implemented ones. This, I
Well, bummer.
I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both
immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the
applications I build today.
For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier framework to use
that will streamline the development process from the
John Corry wrote:
For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier framework to use
that will streamline the development process from the beginning?
I've been using my own I developed from the ground up for the past
couple years, but have recently looked at cakePHP and I think it might
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:30 PM, John Corry jco...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, bummer.
I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both
immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the
applications I build today.
For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:30:59PM -0500, John Corry wrote:
Well, bummer.
I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both
immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the
applications I build today.
For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:59 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:30:59PM -0500, John Corry wrote:
Well, bummer.
I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both
immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the
applications I build
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:50:25PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote:
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OMG, and don't get me started on ORM. What a bloat that is. The amount of
query overhead is rediculous. All these stupid objects for even the
simplest of 'glue tables'. Straight SQL, optimized for your query and
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote:
If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend
CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and
they are pretty good), you'll probably do fine with it. It's about the
lightest
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