Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-13 Thread Nuno Lopes
> >>See suggested diff below.. my livedocs is broken for the contributors > >>entity for some reason, and I don't have time to fix it right now. > > > > Its already fixed :) > > http://livedocs.aborla.net/patch.php?id=include.entities > > Do you have a list with all your pending livedocs patches? I

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-13 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
See suggested diff below.. my livedocs is broken for the contributors entity for some reason, and I don't have time to fix it right now. Its already fixed :) http://livedocs.aborla.net/patch.php?id=include.entities Do you have a list with all your pending livedocs patches? It would be nice to send

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Philip Olson
> +1 for a big list of all contributors > > Ranking/Rating is like measuring and comparing penis size. > It's meaningless for the majority of people reading the docs and > serves only as an ego boost for the *ahem* big committers and inspires > penis envy in the not-so-big committers. > > We

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Heilig (Cece) Szabolcs
> +1 for a big list of all contributors +1, because it's easier to maintain. Putting people to inactive and back again time-to-time is impossible i think. Heilig Cece Szabolcs

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Wez Furlong
+1 for a big list of all contributors Ranking/Rating is like measuring and comparing penis size. It's meaningless for the majority of people reading the docs and serves only as an ego boost for the *ahem* big committers and inspires penis envy in the not-so-big committers. We don't really nee

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Gabor Hojtsy wrote: > > How about this, have that list include the people on the > > frontpage and simply title it: > > > > Contributors to the PHP Manual > > > > Inactive or not, all of these people are contributors. Sure > > some people will be listed in both places but n

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Nuno Lopes
> See suggested diff below.. my livedocs is broken for the contributors > entity for some reason, and I don't have time to fix it right now. Its already fixed :) http://livedocs.aborla.net/patch.php?id=include.entities Nuno

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
How about this, have that list include the people on the frontpage and simply title it: Contributors to the PHP Manual Inactive or not, all of these people are contributors. Sure some people will be listed in both places but not many. Without more text, this implies, that the list of contributor

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Sean Coates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gabor Hojtsy wrote: | I would appreciate if someone with better English skills would reword | those entities, so they fit into the positive image the whole crediting | is supposed to be under. See suggested diff below.. my livedocs is broken for the con

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Philip Olson
How about this, have that list include the people on the frontpage and simply title it: Contributors to the PHP Manual Inactive or not, all of these people are contributors. Sure some people will be listed in both places but not many. Regards, Philip On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Gabor Hojtsy wrote

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
So, allow users to opt out of the "inactive" page. Would that solve the problem? Or better word it so that it does not indicate that the listed people are *completely* inactive currently. Just remove this whole section. s/section/pthrase I mean Especially this part looks bad: Authors and Editors Al

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
That's insulting to me. Looking again and seeing Wez's name on that list I should think it'd be insulting to him too (while he's not done much content, his livedocs contributions have been significant). IMO livedocs has nothing to do with this, that's a new tool that's not in use and I'm sure Wez

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Sara Golemon wrote: > That's insulting to me. Looking again and seeing Wez's name on that list I > should think it'd be insulting to him too (while he's not done much content, > his livedocs contributions have been significant). IMO livedocs has nothing to do with this, that

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Gabor Hojtsy wrote: > > > > So, allow users to opt out of the "inactive" page. > > > Would that solve the problem? > > > > Or better word it so that it does not indicate that the listed people > > are *completely* inactive currently

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Nuno Lopes
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Gabor Hojtsy wrote: > > > > So, allow users to opt out of the "inactive" page. > > > Would that solve the problem? > > > > Or better word it so that it does not indicate that the listed people > > are *completely* inactive currently. > > Just remove this whole section. > >

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Gabor Hojtsy wrote: > The list of 'currently not that active' people was not meant to put > those to shame, But that how it looks like (to me). > Do you think that it is a shame to be on the 'currently not active' list? Yes, if were an author I'd think so. Why not just merg

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Sara Golemon
> >>>Let me rephrase: I take exception to the adjective "inactive". It > >>>minimizes my efforts to bridge the gap between development and > >>>documentation. > >> > >>Excuse me, but I don't undestand what you mean here. > > > > I'll put it bluntly then: If I'm seen as inactive, then perhaps I

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Gabor Hojtsy wrote: > > So, allow users to opt out of the "inactive" page. > > Would that solve the problem? > > Or better word it so that it does not indicate that the listed people > are *completely* inactive currently. Just remove this whole section. Derick

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Let me rephrase: I take exception to the adjective "inactive". It minimizes my efforts to bridge the gap between development and documentation. Excuse me, but I don't undestand what you mean here. I'll put it bluntly then: If I'm seen as inactive, then perhaps I should just live up to that repu

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Dave Barr
Sean Coates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So, allow users to opt out of the "inactive" page. Would that solve the problem? I have a solution: Simply remove the word "inactive" (and change the entities of course). This way, people that are still active, but didn't make it to

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
So, allow users to opt out of the "inactive" page. Would that solve the problem? Or better word it so that it does not indicate that the listed people are *completely* inactive currently. Goba

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Sean Coates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So, allow users to opt out of the "inactive" page. Would that solve the problem? S Sara Golemon wrote: |>>Let me rephrase: I take exception to the adjective "inactive". It |>>minimizes my efforts to bridge the gap between development and |>>documentat

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Sara Golemon
> > Let me rephrase: I take exception to the adjective "inactive". It > > minimizes my efforts to bridge the gap between development and > > documentation. > > Excuse me, but I don't undestand what you mean here. > I'll put it bluntly then: If I'm seen as inactive, then perhaps I should just li

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Nuno Lopes
> > > I'm resisting the urge to move my name from "Inactive authors" to the > main > > > page. More curious what criteria was used to determine who's active and > who > > > isn't. > > > > There was a limit on the *last half year* activity of people. I see > > around 90 letters from you (including

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
There was a limit on the *last half year* activity of people. I see around 90 letters from you (including CVS commits and bug actions) in my local phpdoc mailbox (which contains letters for the complete last year). Yes fine, but what criteria was used to gague "activity"? I know it's not raw numbe

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Sara Golemon
> > I'm resisting the urge to move my name from "Inactive authors" to the main > > page. More curious what criteria was used to determine who's active and who > > isn't. > > There was a limit on the *last half year* activity of people. I see > around 90 letters from you (including CVS commits and

Re: [PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-12 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
I'm resisting the urge to move my name from "Inactive authors" to the main page. More curious what criteria was used to determine who's active and who isn't. There was a limit on the *last half year* activity of people. I see around 90 letters from you (including CVS commits and bug actions) in m

[PHP-DOC] Not an active author?

2004-08-11 Thread Sara Golemon
I'm resisting the urge to move my name from "Inactive authors" to the main page. More curious what criteria was used to determine who's active and who isn't. -Sara