Re: Documentation again

2014-08-27 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
for the complete keybinding reference) Thus calling 'doc' on function/symbol FOO is just 'C-h f FOO RET', and thats already hardcoded in every Emacs user's brain I would guess. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Documentation again

2014-08-12 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Christophe Gragnic christophegrag...@gmail.com writes: Le 7 août 2014 14:11, Jon Kleiser jon.klei...@fsat.no a écrit : I use the frame-based solution for doc lookup (index.html by me), here http://www.software-lab.de/doc/, I

Re: Documentation again

2014-08-12 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
? On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Christophe Gragnic

Re: Documentation again

2014-08-12 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
/ | Reading PDF failed ` -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Documentation again

2014-08-12 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Alabhya Singh alab...@yahoo.com writes: Thanks a lot! Thorsten Jolitz for detailed informative help. As an Org-mode fan I would really like to have these docs in Org-mode, would make everything easier, but then you need to prepare the export to LaTeX such that the outcome looks

Re: Documentation again

2014-08-12 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes: Alabhya Singh alab...@yahoo.com writes: Thanks a lot! Thorsten Jolitz for detailed informative help. As an Org-mode fan I would really like to have these docs in Org-mode, would make everything easier, but then you need to prepare the export

Re: Differences in mapping functions

2014-07-28 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
this clears things up a little. Thanks for this nice and short explanation, I'm sure I will use this post as a reference in the future. I would even say that it would make a perfect wiki article! , | Mapping functions in PicoLisp ` or so -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: RnRS

2014-07-16 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
. Even in documentation, perfection is achieved with irreducibility. Isn't [[http://software-lab.de/doc/ref.html][The PicoLisp Reference]] just that - its RnRs? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: RnRS

2014-07-16 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
... -- From: Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com; To: picolisp@software-lab.de; Subject: Re: RnRS Sent: Wed, Jul 16, 2014 8:41:01 AM Alabhya Singh alab...@yahoo.com writes

Re: RnRS

2014-07-16 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
://github.com/tj64/picolisp-works ` , | https://github.com/tj64/picolisp-by-example ` -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

1st time I see PicoLisp in Job Description

2014-06-12 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
: consumer goods - durables | * Size: 201 - 500 Employees | * Turnover: 100 - 500 Crores | * Website: http://www.symphonylimited.com | | Job Posted on: 12 Jun, 2014 | Job ID: 51714842 `- -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Would a logging framework make sense for PicoLisp

2014-03-10 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
because it was so small ;) -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Would a logging framework make sense for PicoLisp

2014-03-10 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes: andr...@itship.ch writes: Hi Andreas, I crafted a tiny logging tool consisting of one function and some globals. I'm new to picolisp (and its my first lisp), so feedback and advices are greatly appreciated. great, thank you, I just did a quick

Re: Would a logging framework make sense for PicoLisp

2014-03-10 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
to get it redirected to a function... Does this answer your question? Yes, thanks! Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes: after testing a bit more I have one question: It seems the levels 'warning and 'error unconditionally print their messages when *LogOn is set to them, but from my

Would a logging framework make sense for PicoLisp

2014-02-25 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
. What do you think? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Would a logging framework make sense for PicoLisp

2014-02-25 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
to default stderr something like this #+begin_src picolisp (de log (Func) (err (tmp log) (trace Func) (pass Func) ) ) #+end_src but this does not work unfortunately... -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Query relations that are Lists, Bags or List-Bags

2014-02-06 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
with tags 'tag1' and 'tag3'? Maybe I missed something, but querying non-atomic relation is not really covered in the docs. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Query relations that are Lists, Bags or List-Bags

2014-02-06 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
- thanks! I have to try ... PS I did not know about the 'sect' function, definitely useful. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: How to get the Object-ID from a DB-Object?

2014-01-27 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
! On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes: ,-- --- | Sorry, I sent this post accidentally before I was finished, so I have

Re: How to get the Object-ID from a DB-Object?

2014-01-27 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
. But there is no problem as long as you use indexes to access the objects. Ok, thanks -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: How to get the Object-ID from a DB-Object?

2014-01-27 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
the relation is defined as , | (rel elem-id (+Key +Number)) ` i.e. can I first assign e.g. 37 to it during the object creation, and then let the 'id' function re-assign e.g. 9 to it when post-processing the newly created objects? -- cheers, Thorsten

Re: How to get the Object-ID from a DB-Object?

2014-01-27 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
for object creation. But once the linked/joined object network exists, can replace them with something more meaningfull like a unique elem-ID. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

How to get the Object-ID from a DB-Object?

2014-01-26 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Hi List, say I want to use the internal Object ID of database object as a unique string identifier (useful e.g. for export in a textformat), i.e. something like: : (put '{33} 'ID {33}) -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: How to get the Object-ID from a DB-Object?

2014-01-26 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes: ,- | Sorry, I sent this post accidentally before I was finished, so I have to | send it again. `- Hi List

Re: Transient symbol with a single backslash

2014-01-25 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
\ ..))) (setq X (read))) | - (This 'is (not) code ..) | : X | - (This 'is (not) code ..) `--- -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Making 64bit development version fails

2014-01-21 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Making 64bit development version fails

2014-01-21 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
that ... that symlink is there and needed. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Making 64bit development version fails

2014-01-21 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
for the tips! On 21 January 2014 13:04, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Pedro Gomes azynhe...@gmail.com writes: Hi Pedro, I tryed on my Ubuntu 12.04 and it worked. Maybe you need to create the bin directory,because I removed the bin

Re: Small observation re. (gt0 X) and ( X 0)

2013-11-15 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
at first, but plausible after reading the docs. Thanks for the tip! -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: About mail delivery from mail listing

2013-10-21 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
not work | [emacs-w3m:12155] Re: w3m-form - textarea submission does not work `--- -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Class inheritance - unexpected behaviour?

2013-09-29 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
' and 'collect' Lisp functions. thanks! -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Class inheritance - unexpected behaviour?

2013-09-29 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
in the reference/tutorial, because the way it is described there one would expect equivalent behaviour to sql SELECT, only somehow less powerful and efficient than pilog queries. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Class inheritance - unexpected behaviour?

2013-09-29 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
the latest picoLisp.tgz and try again? a good step, I would say, since the query results I had with (select ..) were very confusing. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Class inheritance - unexpected behaviour?

2013-09-28 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
,--- | (select a1 +a) `--- should show all objects of the hierarchy, the other queries should only show class +D or +C objects repectively. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Some initial questions

2013-09-25 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
all documents written about PicoLisp until 2012. Have fun ... -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: A few quick emu/pil timings

2013-09-24 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Mansur Mamkin mmam...@mail.ru writes: in case of Windows don't forget to look at coLinux and andLinux: Isn't archlinux quite popular now between 'minimalists'? ,--- | https://www.archlinux.org/ `--- -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE

(path @lib/) does not work with local installation?

2013-09-15 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
: ,- | : (pwd) | - /home/tj | : (path @lib/) | - lib/ `- Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: How to produce strange syntax in PicoLisp?

2013-09-12 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
) (pack # (sym Lst)) ) : (hashtag '(A 0 1 (:parent 1))) - #(\A\ 0 1 (:parent 1)) Yes, perfect! Thanks. I knew it could be done somehow... -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Add relation to entity

2013-09-11 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
' (if that makes sense) - how is this relation info stored in the property list? - and how can I specify that an additional property like e.g. (01731234567 . mobil), given at runtime, is a relation of class +Number? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de

Re: Add relation to entity

2013-09-11 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
', because it avoids confusion, and gives less trouble in case where e.g. an index is later added to the relation. Thanks, then I will just map over my property list and assign them the canonical way with 'put' and friends. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de

Re: Add relation to entity

2013-09-11 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de writes: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:42:24PM +0200, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: Thanks, then I will just map over my property list and assign them the canonical way with 'put' and friends. Or, if you have (or convert) the property list in a form like (key1

Re: Add relation to entity

2013-09-11 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de writes: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:42:24PM +0200, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: Thanks, then I will just map over my property list and assign them the canonical way with 'put' and friends. Or, if you have (or convert) the property list in a form like (key1

Re: Add relation to entity

2013-09-11 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de writes: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 01:47:01PM +0200, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: Ok, one question remains (back to the original topic of this thread, so to say): Right :) ,-- | (class +MyClass +Entitiy) | (rel :friend (+String

How to produce strange syntax in PicoLisp?

2013-09-11 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
to the opening parenthesis? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Is there something like 'ignore-errors' in PicoLisp?

2013-08-16 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Is there something like 'ignore-errors' in PicoLisp?

2013-08-15 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
and inhibits that the server goes into debug state? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: kill without 'KILL does not work for PicoLisp processes

2013-07-17 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
some database operation failed? I have no idea ... -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: kill without 'KILL does not work for PicoLisp processes

2013-07-17 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Rowan Thorpe ro...@rowanthorpe.com writes: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:22:14 +0200 Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: ..[snip].. I ran into this problem when experimenting with the web-framework and my app got into a bad state. When restarting then, PicoLisp tells me something like 'Port

Re: kill without 'KILL does not work for PicoLisp processes

2013-07-17 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
in the not so rare case of reaching a 'bad' state during development. Unless you're actually fiddling with the actual server code, then it can't be helped I suppose... I don't, so that would not be a problem. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote

kill without 'KILL does not work for PicoLisp processes

2013-07-16 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
picolisp 1658 1648 1380 1359 $ kill -KILL 1359 1380 1648 1658 $ pidof picolisp $ #+end_quote -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: alist vs plist in PicoLisp

2013-07-03 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
KEY)) #+end_src -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: alist vs plist in PicoLisp

2013-07-03 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
property list if assigned with 'lput' to a symbol? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: alist vs plist in PicoLisp

2013-07-03 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
# are not pointer-equal : (get 'A (cdar PList)) # (cdar PList) is (a b) - val1# and pointer-equal ok, thanks, I think now I got it more or less. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE

Namespace definitons in project with several files

2013-07-03 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
'project 'pico) definition at the top of that .l file that loads the other files from the project? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Are :keyword symbols a legal deviation from the rules?

2013-07-03 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
be considered a legal deviation from the rules/conventions, I could save me the effort of converting back and forth from upper-to-lowercase and simply use the symbols as-is. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Are :keyword symbols a legal deviation from the rules?

2013-07-03 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de writes: Hi Alex, The ':' shouldn't conflict. You can find that out (after 'load'ing all relevant files in debug mode) with : (what :@) - (: ::) ok, I see, thanks for both answers (other post too). -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE

alist vs plist in PicoLisp

2013-07-02 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
in the Emacs Lisp manual, but I don't know if this holds for all Lisps or only Emacs Lisp. I guess in PicoLisp it might be a different story? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: SEXP?

2013-07-01 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
, hopefully ;) -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: SEXP?

2013-07-01 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com writes: On Monday 01 of July 2013 07:39:49 you wrote: Hi Thorsten, I wonder if there is a way in PicoLisp to check if some function argument is a SEXP, i.e. if something like a function 'sexp? exists that returns T if the argument is a SEXP. how

Re: SEXP?

2013-07-01 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
. But thanks for the tip anyway! On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com writes: On Monday 01 of July 2013 07:39:49 you wrote: Hi Thorsten, I wonder if there is a way in PicoLisp

Re: Citations for Wikipedia

2013-06-30 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
1997: Title | BURGER 2009: Title `--- -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

SEXP?

2013-06-30 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
SEXP, but maybe it actually does not make a difference since in this case Lisp is Lisp, no matter what dialect. PS With so many occurences fo SEX in this post, I wonder if it will be filtered as SPAM or actually posted in the mailing list -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp

Object - Nested List

2013-06-28 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
is defined and 'dog' is an alias for it) without doing #+begin_src picolisp (new ’(+Dog) border collie medium high T) #+end_src explicitly? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Mapping circular lists from Emacs Lisp to PicoLisp

2013-06-28 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
of the list), e.g. #+begin_src emacs-lisp (:parent #5=(headline ... ... :parent #5#) #+end_src I wonder how this can be expressed in PicoLisp? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Mapping circular lists from Emacs Lisp to PicoLisp

2013-06-28 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
forever to (probably not) figure this out. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: CSS for menu and tab

2013-06-27 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de writes: Hi Thorsten, html output is: , | script type=text/javascript src=http://:/lib.css;/script ` ... what

Re: CSS for menu and tab

2013-06-27 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
... or is that described somewhere? Thanks so far, I made the CSS working by putting the stylesheet link into the head section, so far it was exported to the html body and then ignored. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Assign a list as symbols property list

2013-06-02 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
be done with 'putl'. I knew that there must be a function for this ... thanks -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Syntax for global variable in namespace?

2013-06-02 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
', but the '*Var' would underline its importance.BTW Are constants in uppercase (like 'MYCONST') acceptable in PicoLisp? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Syntax for global variable in namespace?

2013-06-02 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
constants yet (a good case might be lib/openGl.l though), but an all-uppercase notations seems natural to me. One thing to remember is of course that there are no real constants in PicoLisp. Anything may be modified at any time. OK, thanks for the info. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE

Assign a list as symbols property list

2013-06-01 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
as a symbols property list - how do I do that (without setting every single key/value pair with 'put')? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Problems with 'call'

2013-05-29 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
weka.classifiers.functions.SMO konnte nicht | gefunden oder geladen werden | - NIL `- [TRANSLATION: Error: class weka.classifiers.functions.SMO could not be found or loaded] -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Problems with 'call'

2013-05-29 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
, but somehow PicoLisp does not know about it: , | : (sys WEKAHOME) | - NIL | : (sys TERM) | - xterm-256color ` -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Problems with 'call'

2013-05-29 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Jorge Acereda Maciá jacer...@gmail.com writes: On May 29, 2013, at 7:05 PM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: - the variable is set and known to BASH, but somehow PicoLisp does not know about it: Did you export it? (export FOO=x instead

Re: PicoLisp and SWIG

2013-05-16 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
++ coverage is, I think templates are not supported. On the other hand, it seems that by the end of this summer, ANSI C is added as a target language to SWIG, which would probably be the most straight forward option to prepare C++ class libraries for 'native calls. -- cheers, Thorsten

Re: PicoLisp and SWIG

2013-05-15 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Tomas Hlavaty t...@logand.com writes: Hi Tomas, I'm Cc-ing picolisp mailing list too just in case others find it interesting. thats OK, I think this could generally be very useful. And thanks for your informative answer! Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@googlemail.com writes: Hi Tomas, hast du

Performance of Recursion vs Iteration in PicoLisp

2013-05-10 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
for compiler optimizations -right? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Performance of Recursion vs Iteration in PicoLisp

2013-05-10 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
- 9332621544394415268169923885626670049071596826438162146859296389521753229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864 So the recursive version takes about twice as long as the other two. Thanks, nice to know. I find that interesting enough that I would like to add it to the 'Recursion' Wiki article - what do you think? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Performance of Recursion vs Iteration in PicoLisp

2013-05-10 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Alex Gilding alex.gild...@talktalk.net writes: Hi Alex (Gilding), You actually have that the opposite way around. [...] Very interesting read, thank you for the info. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

New wiki article about recursion in PicoLisp

2013-05-09 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
`--- -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Meta characters in PicoLisp

2013-05-07 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
: | | ’ ( ) , [ ] ‘ ~ { } ` I forgot what the ~ is about (e.g. in ~( ... )), and could not find the explanation. And isn't ^ another meta character (with what meaning in PicoLisp)? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Meta characters in PicoLisp

2013-05-07 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
in PicoLisp)? Not in internal symbols. In transient symbols (strings), however, it denotes a control character. e.g. ^I is TAB and ^M is carriage return . abc^Jdef^Jghi^J is a text of three lines. I see, thanks! -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject

Re: Canonical use of namespaces

2013-04-21 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de writes: Hi Henrik, Hi Alex, thanks for your replies - question answered! -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Outline functionality for PicoLisp source files in Emacs

2013-04-09 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
-tutorials/org-outside-org.html `--- -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: PicoLisp relations and UML

2013-02-01 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
here, as it sounds like information hiding, which is not the case. Instance variables fits best. BTW, there are also class variables (http://software-lab.de/doc/refV.html#var). Ok, thanks for the tips. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

PicoLisp relations and UML

2013-01-31 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
| ((+String)) # Memo text | ((+Number) 2) ) # Total amount `--- How to present this in UML? Its like 1 Link and 4 unnamed attributes, I'm not sure how to translate to a UML class diagram? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject

Re: PicoLisp relations and UML

2013-01-31 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
specified in the comment beyond a class definition: ,- | (class ... | # var1 var2 var3 | ...) `- can be considered as a kind of 'private instance (or class) variables? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

[Emacs] Trick for editing large PicoLisp sources

2013-01-23 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
) `-- -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

[FYI] picolisp-wiki-mode updated to version 1.0

2013-01-18 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
works now and fontification is better (still not perfect, but I dropped the overambitious attempts to fontify complicated nested structures, so the simpler structures are fontified more reliable now). -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: org mode parser

2012-12-15 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Alexander Burger a...@software-lab.de writes: Hi Joe, https://bitbucket.org/joebo/pico-org/src Thanks for sharing! Thorsten will be delighted too ;-) Indead, delighted and surprised, I just talked about an Org-mode parser with Alex yesterday and recently had a look at the official Org-mode

Re: New Emacs-style command-line editor

2012-11-30 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
to open it in view mode. That nice if you want (vi-like ?) read-only navigation without messing up your sources accidentally. Just type e to make the buffer editable again, or q to delete the buffer. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

New Emacs-style command-line editor

2012-11-29 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
functionality to add, but it works already quite good, I use it all the time now. I would be highly appreciated if Emacs users could test it and report bugs. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: New Emacs-style command-line editor

2012-11-29 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
in the REPL and and C-p and C-n can't server as line-up and line-down in a buffer. However, I could change that anytime. On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Thorsten Jolitz tjolitz@googlemailcom wrote: Hi List, I just posted a reference article on the wiki (http://picolisp.com

Re: Bug in (env)?

2012-11-25 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
it works for me too: ,-- | $ ./pil + | : (env) | - NIL `-- -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Pasting from the OS clipboard

2012-11-24 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
keybindings like Emacs. So I almost forget that I'm not in Emacs all the time when doing some copypaste between Emacs and Conkeror. The same 'feeling' would be nice when changing between Emacs and the PicoLisp REPL. Would that be hard to implement? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE

Bug in (env)?

2012-11-24 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Hi Alex, in the newest testing version on 64bit Archlinux PicoLisp terminates when I call (env) without args. A bug? ,--- | : (env) | Speicherzugriffsfehler | $ `--- -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject

Re: New Article about 'for'

2012-11-24 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
/5000/!wiki?Help) that describes the 'PicoLisp Wiki Mode' for Emacs. With this mode, writing articles for the Wiki in Emacs becomes very fast and convenient. You can find the picolisp-wiki-mode.el file in the 'lib/el/' folder of the testing release. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE

Normalize PicoLisp Wiki Syntax

2012-11-24 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
is a bit random. Don't know if it would be an improvement and worth the pain. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Normalize PicoLisp Wiki Syntax

2012-11-24 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
myself if it would be such a good idea. It would make some things easier, but these things are not impossible with the current syntax either. Thanks for the feedback, I think you are right. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Pasting from the OS clipboard

2012-11-23 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
in an X11 session Is this functionality missing in PicoLisp? -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

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